Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 15 Discussion / Poll

[aroduc]

I swear, the better raws are taking longer and longer to show up these days.

On the other hand...

Ahhhhh~

Spoiler:

And Vita's found someone else's can to leer at. :P

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[Estavali]

Edited: Nevermind.... I must be too sleepy these days.

[Seiryuu]

Concerning the prophecy, doesn't it just say "from the king" or "below the king" or something? I don't think the king is an active role. I prefer to think it refers to a dead royal line or a past king who'd brought death and turmoil to his people.
As far as carrots, I don't see why Caro would avoid eating it. It seems pretty obvious to me that she ate it not out of embarrassment but out of a reluctant desire to grow into a beauty Erio can't take his eyes off of.

[Ottocycle]

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

Einjahar that are under Regius' command. This could get ugly as Einjahar are referred to spirits that were chosen by Valkyries to become soldiers for them in a war. Einjahar can be referred to the "the dead will dance" part in the Prophecy.
Numbers and Scaglietti's army of drones...alot of them.

Nice link pointed out there. Are we staring at a potential Tiida appearance?

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

yea, well I got to learn about Einjahars thanks to Valkyrie Profile Silmeria...a little off topic though sorry

but yea thats what Einjahars were used for...but I've been watching the fansub of episode 12 and the Numbers are heavily referring Vivio as "material"...and Quattro pointed out that even though she was hit by the buster, she would not die as she would be the "vessel of the saints".
Now, "material" can mean a lot of things, but I think Vivio has a power that can create living things out of the non-living..."vessel of the saints", with Quattro calling her that, I'm not too sure, but she could be the "king" in this prophecy.

lets see now, the only thing we haven't found out yet is how Regius will activate these Einjahars that he has up his sleeve. I'm thinking that maybe Vivio might be related to this, but we still haven't gotten a clue on what her powers or purpose could be though...I guess I can just call this theory a speculation.
A crazy thought, but Vivio could be a Valkyrie.

[Kha]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

I : Unknown (( clearly the most senior ))
II : Unknown
III : Speed (( should be offensive, but support type or combat type unknown. ))
IV : Illusionist (( rear support ))
V : Unknown
VI : Deep Diver (( sneak-attack/recon? ))
VII : Unknown
VIII : Unknown
IX : Close Combat (( front-liner, style unknown. ))
X : Sniper (( long-range power-shooter ))
XI : Close Combat ((... Pincer Shield? frontliner ))
XII : Unknown

Nanoha :
- Past injury/Quatrro/Affliation with Numbers
Fate/Elio :
-Project F
Hayate :
- RF6 Leader responsibility/possible death flag/possible prophecy involvement
Subaru/Ginga :
- YOU KILLED MY MOTHER! No...I am your mother.
Teana:
-....over?
Caro:
- Voltaire, the Black Dragon.
- Possible berserking dragon.
Wolkenritter :
- None, Vita possibly with the Nanoha one.
Vice :
- Former mage lol?
Saint Church:
- So...why 3 Ancient Belka users? Surely there had to be...something.
- Prophecy Revelation/Truth
TSAB :
-SEELE! Internal right-wing faction.
- Regius/Ground/Eihenjar affair
- 3 Admirals...maybe?
Scaglietti Faction:
- Numbers
- WHAT THE HELL ARE RELICS?
- Material/King
- Why are you doing this?
Lutecia:
-Specific relic search
-Reason
-Background
Zest:
- I dunno? Something? Why's he Knight?
Agito:
Either they'll explain more or be done with it.
Client:
Who...are...you?

If there's more, most of them probably ties in mildly to the rest overall. Vivio is related to King/material, and stuff like that. Even with this list, some things can be tied in accordingly depending on how the story plays out.

0_0 I'm so gonna use this as a checklist for fanon extension!

*saves*

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Well, I personally don't doubt that the subplots can be covered. Like I said, a lot of them already overlap by nature, and in the hands of a skilled writer, it can overlap even more.

But remember our whole "current pace" talk? Like how many episodes it took in general to resolve Teana's subplot, or the latest 3 episodes used as nothing but the calm, calm, calm before the storm along with more background related plot developments? I think the fears that some elements may feel rushed more so than the rest, etc is justified. I'd rather not worry and let things go as they go, but it's not like the complaints are not very biased.

Well, that's something for another thread. I just generally list out the minute-details of the subplots for the characters in general as requested. The main plot point...was well your 4-point stuff.

And to be honest, I don't really think Eihenjar will be all that big of a deal as far as it sounds. I REALLY REALLY doubt they'll introduce MORE characters at this stage... and even if they do, they'll probably WTFPWNed by the Numbers to fuel the Numbers hype...since they obviously can't let the Numbers kill off any important characters this early. Even those like Vice.

@thisguy

Actually, when I heard that Ginga/Subaru's mom was involved the the War Humanoids thing, my first thought was "lol their mom is going to pull a Darth Vader as a Number or something"...then it kinda dawned that...maybe their mom was a War Humanoid or something... then all sorts of crack start pouring into my brain, I stopped the overflow.

Then yeah, with the Marie thing, the strange medical check-up condition (( Shamal's room... I don't see any scanner thing )) and the ominious cutting to the Numbers... holy shite, could it BE?!?!?!?

I still think I'm mildly on crack, but it's something that did cross my mind as far as theories go last episode.

Nighty, you're really starting to influence me, for I though of that too. Funny how everything began when you sold me the Siglio crack pair.

Anyway, if Mrs Nakajima turns out to be resurrected as a Number, it'll make my OC's experience canon-verified, and open up Chrno Crusade vibes. IF she was a Number to begin with, I'm gonna scream FULL METAL ALCHEMIST!!! -_-

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by Seiryuu

As far as carrots, I don't see why Caro would avoid eating it. It seems pretty obvious to me that she ate it not out of embarrassment but out of a reluctant desire to grow into a beauty Erio can't take his eyes off of.

Maybe Caro has a hidden dislike for carrots?

And no,i doubt she can even think of a thought like that.Not to mention she's not so madly in love with Erio yet.She was probably eating it for fear of losing face.(If She was older,then the above reason could apply)

[krisslanza]

No offense, but I doubt either Erio or Caro are 'in love'. They are a bit young to truly understand what 'love' is. But there is no doubt they obviously have some pretty big crushes on one another

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

No offense, but I doubt either Erio or Caro are 'in love'. They are a bit young to truly understand what 'love' is. But there is no doubt they obviously have some pretty big crushes on one another

Finally a good description of the chemistry between them

[krisslanza]

Give or take a few years, they'll understand what crushes mean. Until then, they have no idea

Although it does make things really cute...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Adr 00

Finally a good description of the chemistry between them

You must have missed out on the last 10 or so then

And no, I'm not going to dig them all up to prove it to you.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

Give or take a few years, they'll understand what crushes mean. Until then, they have no idea

Although it does make things really cute...

Yay,they feel something for each other, but yet unable to understand why!

Ps.IM so sad,there no gadget type 4

[narmi]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

No offense, but I doubt either Erio or Caro are 'in love'. They are a bit young to truly understand what 'love' is. But there is no doubt they obviously have some pretty big crushes on one another

They do have a big crush for each other but that crush of course can become love.


Anyway I would give episode 15 an 9 out 10. The sparring scene with Ginga and Subaru made my day awesome. After the sparring the scene where Vivio runs up to Fate and Nanoha was too cute but when she tripped I was like "oh no".

[FlareKnight]

Yeah of course Erio and Caro are a bit young to understand about being in love. But clearly the two care about each other and have a strong bond forming. Plus they've got those crushes that down the road will probably turn into love.

Nice attempt by Caro to ditch the carrot. But getting caught she made the smart move to just eat it.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Yeah of course Erio and Caro are a bit young to understand about being in love. But clearly the two care about each other and have a strong bond forming. Plus they've got those crushes that down the road will probably turn into love.

Nice attempt by Caro to ditch the carrot. But getting caught she made the smart move to just eat it.

He was willing to take a carrot for her

As a kid himself, that's a very big sacrifice

[krisslanza]

Erio's got guts to take a carrot like that! O_O

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

Erio's got guts to take a carrot like that! O_O

He's probably used to it, taking all the hits for her.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

He's probably used to it, taking all the hits for her.

Yea nothing says I love you more then eating the veggies you hate for you.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

Yea nothing says I love you more then eating the veggies you hate for you.

I can imagine Caro squeezing him like a soft toy as a reward lol

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

Yea nothing says I love you more then eating the veggies you hate for you.

Hey! That's a really big deal if you're a kid!