2010-05-23, 14:27 | Link #10521 | |
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I quite like this theory of oliver's to be fair if we know that Erika does not exist how can we stick by the assertion that she acts as the detective if she does not have a piece on the game board. Yes she might act through a proxy on the board but that by no means ensures that the character that represents her on the board is the detective. |
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2010-05-23, 14:27 | Link #10522 | |
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There is a chance that the entire setup was his complicated plan to resurrect Beatrice, in which case continuing Erika's delusion from previous game and humouring her would have to be an important part of that plan, and Erika's pathetic death in the end was just Battler and Beatrice finally throwing away a bothersome tool that is no longer needed. It's just that prior to that Battler has usually shown himself to be incapable of such complicated activities, so it feels iffy... unless Kinzo's supposed ingenuity did get resurrected in Battler somehow by the same method. The important bit for the current discussion is that No-Piece-Erika concept keeps working in either case.
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2010-05-23, 14:28 | Link #10523 |
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I'm not saying I believe it, but there's was one thing that struck me as kind of odd. When Battler presented his first logic error solution to Lambda, she reacted as if it was the most amazing thing she'd ever seen. But since she knows the truth of the game board, she should have seen all kinds of variations on "dead" people wandering around already. So what exactly was so incredible about Battler's solution that it provoked such a reaction from her?
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2010-05-23, 14:40 | Link #10524 |
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Battler also suggests that there's a fine line between insanity and genius, and is remarkably willing to refuse to concede ground to Erika even though everyone else tells him he might as well just let the bedroom thing go and regroup. Battler's stubborn, but is he that stubborn? He knows Beatrice has done the same thing, so it's hardly a game-ender.
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2010-05-23, 14:45 | Link #10525 | |
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Painting Erika onto the murderer he now knows about and being fully aware that in the end he's going to deny her anyway would be delightfully evil from him.
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2010-05-23, 14:56 | Link #10528 | |
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2010-05-23, 15:01 | Link #10529 | |
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2010-05-23, 15:05 | Link #10531 |
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For a second I was thinking that maybe it was possible that Erika was one of the first twilight victims since Beatrice says Erika is not the rescuer and I don't think there would be any contradictions since she can't kill herself. It would be an interesting twist if one of the victims that were supposed to save Battler wanted to kill him.
However this red got in my way. All five of the people I killed... were perfectly alive until the exact moment I killed them. bummer...
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2010-05-23, 15:22 | Link #10533 |
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I was thinking that too. but the reason I think she was able to kill those people was because, except for Battler, none of the victims were in sealed rooms. Each of them probably chose their own rooms to fake their death in.
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2010-05-23, 15:26 | Link #10534 | |
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But I can't remember how Erika found each of the victims anyway. Did Gohda or someone tell her what rooms they were in? |
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2010-05-23, 15:28 | Link #10535 | |
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2010-05-23, 15:32 | Link #10536 |
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2010-05-23, 15:41 | Link #10539 | |
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Battler leaves room. Kanon enters room, sets chain, goes into closet. Killer leaves bathroom, assumes Battler is in the closet, shoots it and kills Kanon. I don't see any problem with a person thinking they'd killed Battler when they really hadn't. |
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2010-05-23, 15:43 | Link #10540 | |
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