2012-02-20, 14:55 | Link #81 | |
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For example Sasuke's amaterasu couldn't burn through a samurai yet now its burning Zetsu super fast. Itachi's amaterasu burned slowly on Sasuke's CS2 wing and the wing wasn't fire proof so the speed of his amaterasu burning varies possibly due to the plot. |
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2012-02-21, 13:21 | Link #84 | |
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Sasuke's left EMS eye pattern was upside down at 1st but now its not, Kishi probably did that to show how different his EMS eye looks upside down: |
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2012-02-21, 13:38 | Link #86 | |
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My main point is that EMS may increase Sasuke's burning speed of Amaterasu which is possible. |
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2012-02-21, 21:16 | Link #87 |
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Sasuke used Amaterasu against Danzou and it burned his body almost instantly.
During the fight between Sasuke and Itachi a mere spark of Amaterasu spreaded into an enormous forest fire burning everything for miles in a couple of minutes at most and at the same time we could see that the flames couldn't even spread to the whole trees but only the top instead. There's no logic behind it, the flames are as fast and as hot as the author wants them to at a given moment. |
2012-02-22, 07:56 | Link #88 | |
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MS Sasuke's Amaterasu was on Karin, Bee and a samurai for a rather long time and it didn't burn them much, if EMS Amaterasu was on them maybe they would be dead now. Last edited by TimeMask; 2012-02-22 at 08:44. |
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2012-02-22, 14:47 | Link #90 | |
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And that is why the anime often seems so badly done compared to the manga, because the anime completely breaks timings. In many cases it is explicitly stated how much is the duration of something. For example in the anime Naruto throws a rasenshuriken at Pain and it feels very slow because the anime fails to show how fast it happens, so it looks stupid that Pain is not able to escape from it. The manga states that Naruto can be in sage mode for 5 minutes at most, then we see him in the anime fooling around for half an episode or something like that. And so on... And things get worse as the manga progresses, because we have very high speed guys now, like the raikage or Naruto, and the anime will fail. A positive experinece was the Tobi vs Minato fight, where they used matrix-like slow motion, that seemed a much better solution to me than the slow timings in the Pain vs Naruto fight. I know that the anime needs to make 1 episode out of 2 chapters, even if 2 chapters last only for 2 minutes, that is why it's sometimes so crappy. |
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2012-02-23, 08:53 | Link #91 | |
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It was true for the MS and it will hold true for the EMS. If the author wants someone/something to survivre/block Amaterasu it will burn slowly enough, if he doesn't then they will be incinerated either instantly or just fast enough for the characters to make a comment about it. Look at it this way, why do you think those dead burning Zetsus aren't setting in fire the ground they lie on? Why didn't the multiple times Sasuke fired Amaterasu against the Raikage and Gaara didn't end up burning the whole building complex to the ground? It's a flame that burn everything, goes on for 7 days and nights and cannot be stopped. If it worked logically it would be the single most dangerous thing on the planet. A mere spark left alone could end up destroying virtually everything. But obviously it's not the case and that's because it only spreads at Kishimoto's whims. |
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2012-02-23, 20:32 | Link #92 |
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I find it more interesting how Itachi didn't implant Shisui's eye-crow into Sasuke and had it auto-activate on Madara instead of the Amaterasu. Imagine a Tobi/Madara who is bent on protecting Konoha. And can anyone remind me how a Uchiha can awaken the MS? Who exactly help Sasuke awaken his? Was it Oro or Itachi's death that caused it?
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2012-02-25, 02:33 | Link #94 |
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that's a question that's really been bothering me. he never experienced extreme sorrow that time AFAIK. the only logical explanation that my friend told me is that he "copied" it from Itachi, when Itachi went to Konoha. my memory's a bit fuzzy. i mean he is the "copy" ninja, after all. (hey it's not my idea, blame my friend)
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2012-02-25, 15:17 | Link #95 | |
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1. part of Nagato's arm 2. part of a toad stomach Sasuke MS Amaterasu quickly burned: 1. Danzo? Sasuke's EMS Amaterasu quickly burned: 1. original white Zetsu 2. group of fodder Zetsu As the above shows only Sasuke's EMS Amaterasu burned something quickly and my theory of EMS maybe powering up Sasuke's Amatersu is also backed by the fact that: EMS > MS Danzo was not shown to have any part burned fast and Bee didn't have anything burned off unlike those Zetsu. Also EMS is a stronger eye so wouldn't it make some sense if his amaterasu was stronger or burned faster due to EMS being stronger? Last edited by TimeMask; 2012-02-26 at 08:27. |
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These are in fact way more impressive than, how did you put this, "quickly burning part of Nagato's arm". A part of a limb, how impressive indeed. Quote:
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2012-02-26, 07:25 | Link #98 |
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That's one way to look at it.
Or Sasuke needed to strain himself to create the flame before whereas now he has a massive ball of virtually inexhaustible fire to use and shape at his whim. Though it's not even a difference between MS and EMS, his Susanoo already had this black fire ball in his hand before he obtained the EMS. |
2012-02-26, 08:31 | Link #99 | |
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I thought Sasuke's EMS Amaterasu would always burn fast which his MS Amaterasu didn't (apart from Danzo) but the plot affects the burning speed so its hard to tell until we see more EMS Amaterasu being used. My theory on EMS powering up Amaterasu may be wrong which seems odd since EMS is meant to be stronger then MS. |
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2012-02-26, 08:39 | Link #100 |
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It's just Kishimoto trying to make more symmetry between the powers of Naruto and Sasuke before they finally fight.
Now they both have a huge chakra-monster form, where both can shoot deadly objects (bijuu dama vs amaterasu shuriken), and their real body is safe inside the large chakra-creature so they can spam each other with terraforming-level jutsu without making any damage to the real bodies, that is necessary for long fights. I guess a chakra body can simply regenerate it's parts when it's cut or burned down, so they can continue to fight. Sasuke's susano will most likely also grow legs so it can run and jump around. In human form the amaterasu of the EMS eye can instantly reach Naruto, but then Naruto in human form is faster than the raikage. The only question for me is how will Naruto defend against the genjutsu powers. Sure he has now both chakra sensing and evil sensing abilities and also the 9-tails will help him, but if Itachi's eyes power up Sasuke genjutsu then Naruto will probably need some new magic agains that |
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