Character Discussion - Kallen

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Silver Soul

But would Kallen really die for the sake of Zero? I mean we saw her willing about to die in episode 6 so I guess its not so farfetch'd

And episode 2, I guess, where she was prepared to sacrifie herself to stop Rolo...
But for several reasons, I doubt this scenario won't happen - if it does, then not before at the end...

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

And episode 2, I guess, where she was prepared to sacrifie herself to stop Rolo...
But for several reasons, I doubt this scenario won't happen - if it does, then not before at the end...

Your tone implies to me that you actually meant "I doubt this scenario will happen", rather than "won't". Very... interesting.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

Your tone implies to me that you actually meant "I doubt this scenario will happen", rather than "won't". Very... interesting.

I don't want it to happen, but you never know with the storywritters....

[bladeofdarkness]

after he gave her that whole "i will save you" speech she actually looked happy
the fact that she was taken prisoner didnt seem to matter that much anymore just becouse of his reaction to it
i do think she would be ready to die for him
but he also told her not to do anything stupid so its not likely she'll try to kill herself
why should she
he did promise to save her

[Var]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

after he gave her that whole "i will save you" speech she actually looked happy
the fact that she was taken prisoner didnt seem to matter that much anymore just becouse of his reaction to it
i do think she would be ready to die for him
but he also told her not to do anything stupid so its not likely she'll try to kill herself
why should she
he did promise to save her

It's surprising what hope can do to people. Mix it with 'love' (don't quote me on this, I don't want to be eaten by zombie pandas) and you can have a resolve of steel even in the worst situations. Look at Suzaku when he was trying to get himself killed, Euphie woke him up with her declaration and off he went to cloud nine... for two episodes.

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Var

It's surprising what hope can do to people. Mix it with 'love' (don't quote me on this, I don't want to be eaten by zombie pandas) and you can have a resolve of steel even in the worst situations. Look at Suzaku when he was trying to get himself killed, Euphie woke him up with her declaration and off he went to cloud nine... for two episodes.

that was nice
right until ep 23
just thinking about it makes me a sad panda

lets hope thats not the case here

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

that was nice
right until ep 23
just thinking about it makes me a sad panda

lets hope thats not the case here

Well, season 2 has been a lot more "hopeful" in several aspects than season 1 - and i'd like them to continue this, really...

[ZeroSama]

My point was given her personality it's highly unlikely she would cave in under torture. If she did think she was about to crack or they were going to drug it out of her she'd kill herself first.

To me the torture or drugging is unlikely(even though it would probably happen IRL). I just said that to illustrate her loyalty.

[Blue_Mercy]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Well, season 2 has been a lot more "hopeful" in several aspects than season 1 - and i'd like them to continue this, really...

I seriously doubt we will get any more happy ending type arcs, except maybe Kallen's rescue. From here on I see a dark road coming....the only question is who will the doom axe or axes fall on this time? My guess is Shirley and Gino. I'm not sure if even Code Geass has the guts to kill a loli.

[bladeofdarkness]

season 2 mirrors alot of the stuff that happend in season 1
the first 4 ep's in both include
lulu getting geass
lulu leads the knights to victry until an unknown KMF fucks it up but he still manages to kill area 11 gov
lulu dealing with a school mate who has a secret id
lulu pulling off a prison break
then you have a lost battle
a grand plan in ep 8
a new KMF in ep 10 (name of KMF is in the ep name)
a giant battle in ep 11

so far the seasons are too much alike for me to be optimistic

edit: and whatever happens to kallen next ep will seal the question of whether or not suzaku really is lost to the dark side (she has some lines next ep)

[Dream_Traveller]

Ah. And we'll have Carline Le Britannia, the violence lover, ordering a massacre in Turn 22...or another Geass slip-up.

Though, with Carline's tendencies...

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

season 2 mirrors alot of the stuff that happend in season 1
the first 4 ep's in both include
lulu getting geass
lulu leads the knights to victry until an unknown KMF fucks it up but he still manages to kill area 11 gov
lulu dealing with a school mate who has a secret id
lulu pulling off a prison break
then you have a lost battle
a grand plan in ep 8
a new KMF in ep 10 (name of KMF is in the ep name)
a giant battle in ep 11

so far the seasons are too much alike for me to be optimistic

Except any time he failed in S1 he suceeded or at least stalemated in R2. And Suzaku lost alot.

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Ah. And we'll have Carline Le Britannia, the violence lover, ordering a massacre in Turn 22...or another Geass slip-up.

Though, with Carline's tendencies...

who's this Carline

[Blue_Mercy]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Ah. And we'll have Carline Le Britannia, the violence lover, ordering a massacre in Turn 22...or another Geass slip-up.

Though, with Carline's tendencies...

True, I'm looking forward to her debut also.

[ZeroForever]

new character

spoiled princess who there have been mini previews in magazines about, she's apparently into violence and hates nunally. You can find pics if you look around.

[Dream_Traveller]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

who's this Carline

Fifth princess of the Britannian royal family. She was revealed in old spoilers a while back, a girl who derives pleasure from war and violence, and hates pacifism. She dislikes Nunnally because of her peaceful stance, as well.

[mechalord]

The talk about "following him to the end" and "taking a bullet" for him are used by the writers to illustrate her loyalty towards Lelouch. She swears her life to him when she only knows him as Zero and does it again when she knows Zero is Lelouch. SHe also steps in front of Nina as she lunges towards Zero. This is shown to demonstate her "love" and "loyalty" towards Lelouch. She cares for him unconditionally, I guess. It's epic romance type stuff.

As for the KoR business, I don't she'll end up with him. Again, she is not yet publically know as Zero's love or girlfriend. The pair just barely recognizes their feelings for each other. It's too early in the series to exploit the relationship with a brainwashing story arc.

The dress, it's obvious she can't be in her flight suit all the time. She was probably picked up by her family and given a dress to wear.

There will probably be a cover story to explain her involvement with Zero. How could a girl born to the Statdfelt clan become involved with these people? Easy. . . "she was kidnapped and fell under effects of Stockholm syndrome." Her family will try to "straighten her out."

In Brittania, she'll probably be portrayed as a "Patty Hearst." In the US, a wealthy heiress was kidnapped by a domestic terrorist group and she ultimately joined their caue and became a terrorist herself. I think the writers may go that direction. She'll be released to her family and she'll be publicly depcited as a bored rich girl that got kidnapped by charismatic terrorist leader and was seduced into the movement.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by ZeroForever

new character

spoiled princess who there have been mini previews in magazines about, she's apparently into violence and hates nunally. You can find pics if you look around.

Probably a big euphie fangirl then after ep 22+23 then.

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by mechalord

The talk about "following him to the end" and "taking a bullet" for him are used by the writers to illustrate her loyalty towards Lelouch. She swears her life to him when she only knows him as Zero and does it again when she knows Zero is Lelouch. SHe also steps in front of Nina as she lunges towards Zero. This is shown to demonstate her "love" and "loyalty" towards Lelouch. She cares for him unconditionally, I guess. It's epic romance type stuff.

As for the KoR business, I don't she'll end up with him. Again, she is not yet publically know as Zero's love or girlfriend. The pair just barely recognizes their feelings for each other. It's too early in the series to exploit the relationship with a brainwashing story arc.

The dress, it's obvious she can't be in her flight suit all the time. She was probably picked up by her family and given a dress to wear.

There will probably be a cover story to explain her involvement with Zero. How could a girl born to the Statdfelt clan become involved with these people? Easy. . . "she was kidnapped and fell under effects of Stockholm syndrome." Her family will try to "straighten her out."

if that happens then this anime might change its name to
zero mensou no musume (The Daughter of zero Faces)

edit: and while i really do hope that her loyalty to him leads to a relationship between the two there is another way this could turn out
she could end up being his battle butler (a follower who serves due to personal loyalty to the master and not out of either money or a goal they seek to gain)
some might argue she already is
hope it doesnt end up that way

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Blue_Mercy

I seriously doubt we will get any more happy ending type arcs, except maybe Kallen's rescue. From here on I see a dark road coming....the only question is who will the doom axe or axes fall on this time? My guess is Shirley and Gino. I'm not sure if even Code Geass has the guts to kill a loli.

I wasn't exactly implying that; I was merely stating that season 2 tries to be a bit more positive in soem regards - especailly on Lelouch's side it would seem.

Originally Posted by mechalord

As for the KoR business, I don't she'll end up with him. Again, she is not yet publically know as Zero's love or girlfriend. The pair just barely recognizes their feelings for each other. It's too early in the series to exploit the relationship with a brainwashing story arc.

The dress, it's obvious she can't be in her flight suit all the time. She was probably picked up by her family and given a dress to wear.

There will probably be a cover story to explain her involvement with Zero. How could a girl born to the Statdfelt clan become involved with these people? Easy. . . "she was kidnapped and fell under effects of Stockholm syndrome." Her family will try to "straighten her out."

I'm hoping that this is it as well. I can't help but feel somewhat pessimistic though...