2008-04-28, 17:47 | Link #381 | |
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2008-04-28, 18:08 | Link #382 | |
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Dean just ignore Krimzons rants about Evil Nunnaly, although Nunnaly will probably be evil, and Moraly questionable like Lelouch, when se returns, she's not gonna be as evil as Krimzon describes her, Krimzons just paranoid. |
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2008-04-28, 18:25 | Link #386 |
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Actually, though this was more in the beginning/body of Season 1 until both characters passed their points of no return, I find Suzaku and Lelouch to be remarkably similar, and I believe the Director tried to pound that in a number of times. Every scene in which Lelouch and Suzaku are finishing eachother's sentences in describing their hopes and aspirations, the extent that their aspirations are the same and the flaws they see in the world, and how they have (ham-handidly at times) been portrayed as perfect complements of eachother. Their means and methods may differ (and really is the main difference that drives them apart), but both want to change the world for what they see as the better. It's a bit like the foreign proverb of two seeds from the same plant that, when planted in the same soil together, grow in entirely different ways.
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2008-04-28, 18:27 | Link #387 |
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Dean: In reply to your question on how the lose of 11 will hit the empire...
That place is a HUGE bargaining chip, with it Lelouch has control of 70 precernt of Sakurdaite. He can use that to bend other nations, not just the superpowers but the smaller ones, to his will. Plus there is consideration of any military equipment left behind along with any research data. |
2008-04-28, 19:11 | Link #389 | |
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Controlling a sought-after resource =/= being able to invade and occupy a superpower from across the sea. Japan doesn't have the population, let alone the infrastructure, to manage it. And that's not even considering the possibility of the Britanian Pacific Fleet, say, annihalating any and all mining attempts of Sakurdaite with airstrikes. Just because Britannia can't have it doesn't mean that others will. |
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2008-04-28, 21:34 | Link #390 | |
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2008-04-28, 21:38 | Link #391 |
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I'd love to see what a speed and surprise attack over the Pacific Ocean would look like, in an era of electronic and satellite warfare. In California Brit officer 1: My god, a huge invasion force has left Japan and is sailing East! Brit officer 2: Oh, I'm sure it's nothing to worry about... tell those officers at the Sandwich Isles to line up all the nighmares in nice, even, rows in the open so as to protect against sabatoge... |
2008-04-28, 21:42 | Link #393 |
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Given how easily the Britannians are to fall into traps I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
Good lord the Britannians are like the Chinese in Command and Conquer Generals (Where they always send in a large force but then falls into an ambush that wipes out like 90% of their forces). |
2008-04-28, 21:53 | Link #395 | |
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Clearly Lulu would set off the volcano that protects/powers the island's impenatrable fortress, and as lava sweeps down and engulfs hundreds of Knightmares the United States of Japan will rush onto the islands in a grand humanitarian gesture, protecting all the new citizens of Japan's forward base (because, as well all know, the United States does not discriminate on basis of gender, religion, or ethnicity). |
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2008-04-28, 22:36 | Link #396 |
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Regarding what Lelouch plans to do, they said we would find out his exact plans with everything. Japan is really more of a start off point for him that also happens to be the main source of all Sakuradite. From there, he may move into liberating the other Areas while also gaining the EU and China as allies. Of course, the more important question is what he plans on doing after Britannia is defeated which is really anyone's guess.
And I'm not sure how similar Lelouch and Suzaku are. Taniguchi has made a point for sure of demonstrating that they have different ideas of doing things. In the end, I am sure both want a peaceful world of some sort though.
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2008-04-28, 22:50 | Link #397 | |
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How they go about it, though, is where the differences lie. It's more than just means versus ends: to the end of R1 Lulu works to keep the Student Council safe and prioritizes his sister despite his professed hardening of heart, while Suzaku is still tricked by Zero's bluff hostage taking in their last Knighmare fight. Lulu goes about it in a manner that would befit a Britanian prince: he moves his pawns, sacraficing when needed, and dares to command because he exemplifies excelence and cold-bloodedness at the same time. Suzaku goes about it in an American (or, in the CG universe, an United States of Japan) manner: that race should not matter, and that by hard work he can succede. It's yet another one of the ironies that makes Code Geass such a great comedy. There's also the facet of how both of them change by the end of the (first) series, but that's a different subject. |
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2008-04-29, 13:39 | Link #398 |
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comedy? Man...
I watched Code Geass from the beginning (on its own merits, that is; I didn't really have any idea who Taniguchi was and didn't have a lot of experience with Sunrise or Clamp either), so popular opinion about Lelouch's character never had the chance to colour my perceptions. I'm not sure what exactly has been the 'hype' you've heard, but I can tell you I never considered Lelouch a 'vaunted genius' from the start. It seemed pretty clear, from his genetics (i.e. Cornelia, Schniezel) and his upbringing (Britannian royalty, posh private school) that Lelouch's capabilities were nothing truly extraordinary, in either Code Geass' universe or (at least those aspects of him which could be realistically applied to) our own. I will admit, as well, that I found Lelouch's motivations and aspirations a bit difficult to empathize with in the beginning. Still, though, what's there isn't something to ridicule (I presume that's what you mean by comedy. If you're talking about Code Geass's more light-hearted scenes and fanservice-y humour...well, it's there, but I'd have to look at you funny if that's what you thought made the show exceptional.). What's there to empathise with in Lelouch (at least for me) isn't his successes, it's his losses. As a person who more often than not makes his own bed/digs his own grave, Lelouch's tendency to see himself as something beyond what he is makes him deeply human. The way he struggles with the consequences of his actions are moments of revelation, where he (or maybe just I in his place, iunno really) grasps the true scope of humanity and reality in a way that breaks the feeble little constructions of his mind, makes meaningless his convictions. That's why, even if I'm not particularly enamoured with Lelouch as a person and even consider other characters in the show more likeable (agreed, go Suzaku!), Code Geass is still Lelouch's story, to me. That's also why I can respect the show and feel wronged when it's called a comedy. |
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