2013-07-27, 14:49 | Link #1923 | |
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Even if one or two people want to go for whatever reason and and give an excuse: "we're off to get some food", everyone else should've stopped them. By force if necessary. Not be like "uh, I guess some food would be nice". |
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Finished ep3. Just a couple of quick thoughts for now.
1. Lambdadelta is not a witch. She's a friggin' demon! 2. Eva: "Hey, stupid Rosa! Why are you so stupid?" Good to know nothing changed since ep2 3. So this is where the "witness testimony" comes from, eh? Damn.. That was indeed a pretty huge hint. 4. I guess Beatrice just used a red truth that specificly targeted Evatrice's red-web and thus denied her existance as a witch. The rest was a show. 5. "In short, at the time of the crime, only Nanjo and Jessica were in the servants' room" Nanjo could be standing at the door and the killer be right outside the servants room. And if I'm not mistaken Evatrice does not say specificly "At the moment Nanjo is being killed only Nanjo, Eva, Battler and Jessica are alive". It was just a laundry list of people who were alive or dead at some point after Nanjo died. Also I feel so stupid for not considering orangutans sooner |
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All I know is that list is true after Nanjo is dead. Maybe it's an hour after Nanjo has been killed. That's what I mean. One has to be a lawyer with these red truths. I was also going to argue about definition of murder and say it was a homicide by Jessica, because of: Ushiromiya Jessica has not committed murder She was not involved with Nanjo's murder Her eyes were completely blocked. It's impossible for her to carry out a murder like that Neither Eva nor Battler killed Nanjo, nor were they involved However that is put to rest by The culprit who killed Nanjo was neither Battler nor Eva nor Jessica Nanjo was killed by another person Spoiler for The rest of impressions:
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2013-07-28, 06:18 | Link #1927 | |
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2013-07-28, 06:29 | Link #1928 | |
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As for the video. If I were nitpicking I'd say it's not as fast-paced as it should be. Otherwise pretty darn good ) |
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2013-07-28, 06:54 | Link #1929 | |
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2013-07-28, 07:50 | Link #1930 | |
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2013-07-28, 08:21 | Link #1931 | |
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Oh, well I can't go back reading the whole first ep1 searching for a specific hint, just because I was told there is one. That's just not playing fair. If I missed it on the first time, that's my own fault. |
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2013-07-28, 09:27 | Link #1932 | |
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If you wanna know clearly where to look, it's Spoiler for EP1:
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Ah.. unless So committing a crime was impossible for her. would be talking about any crime. rrrr edit: okok. Kyrie dies from her own wounds after killing Nanjo... Though all together that's pushing the boundries of desperate. |
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2013-07-28, 23:47 | Link #1936 | |
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Battler obviously wasn't in Eva's company for the ENTIRE time, so it stands to reason (as you probably already have), that certain statements are context sensitive. Don't think of it as a 'trick', so much as just the Witch being able to talk about specific situations. Also, just so it's not confusing, I believe the red that Greyzone is probably pulling that red from memory, because in the text, it reads as "He wasn't forging an alibi for her, and he took the possibility that she was the culprit into account, watching her actions carefully. No chance existed for her to do anything suspicious!", so, Kyrie was not mentioned, specifically, in that regard. |
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2013-07-29, 02:23 | Link #1938 | |
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Nanjo is seen killed in the "fantasy version" and his death is discussed in the "courtroom". Battler's POV ends with him running off after Eva. After that we only see Eva shooting Battler. that's it. That's why I'm questioning Evatrice's red truths timeline. They are in effect after Nanjo dies "Nanjo is dead" and before Battler dies "Battler is alive". However any amount of time could've passed between those two events and at some point someone else could've been alive (and died before Evatrice's red truths come into effect), since before that red truth only confirmed 8 people as dead (Kinzo, servants, Rosa and Maria). |
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2013-07-29, 02:48 | Link #1939 | |
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What I want to say is: Someone else could have been alive to kill Nanjo, but it was most likely not Eva who killed that unknown person. Your theory of "one of the others dying after having killed Nanjo" is valid though.
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Hm while comparing to the previous episodes couple other things pop-up:
All of the twilights are half-assed. On the first twilight there are 5 exact same symbols, but none of the other symbols from previous episodes appear. On the second twilight there is no symbol and no stakes, though previously there was at least one stake (Kanon's body not found). There are no more letters or symbols, yet the stakes are still used for the other five murders? Now I'm more convinced that there are several people/allies with different objectives and, by solving the epitaph and then killing Rosa and Maria to keep all of the gold, Eva somehow f***ed up all of the occult stuff that was supposed to happen. Of course it could also be because one of the six who died in the 1st twilight wasn't supposed to die. Also at first I thought Lambda was mad at Beato for failing in tricking Battler into making him accept Beato as a witch. But now that I think about it - is she actually mad because someone actually survived and got off the island? If I remember correctly Lambda was talking about a cage for Bern. But if Battler accepts Beato then the game is over, right? So in order to keep that cage intact the game must reset over and over and over again. And doesn't solving the epitaph put the witch to sleep (on that note - why didn't the witch go to sleep?)? So again the game ends. And so far the only way to survive is solve the epitaph. So Lambda was mad about Beato "not caring who wins" in the "Epitaph game". Not the "game with Battler". The game with Battler is supposed to drag on for all eternity and everyone on the island is supposed to die for all eternity. And the game is set up in such a way - as long as Battler doesn't accept that witches exist, the game with Beatrice continues. Hm.. the problem with this logic though is that in that case Lambda also doesnt want Beatrice to win. So she would have to constantly somehow keep status quo intact. And how does this become a cage for Bern if she came to this game of her own free will and will leave of her own free will if it becomes boring? Need to re-read the tea party... edit: envermind. Lambda wants Beato to win and defeat Bern. Though as long as Battler keeps saying "I don't believe in witches" Beato can never win. Still doesnt explain how Bern becomes a bird in a cage if she came of her free will and could leave of her free will. Unless you lure the bird and then close the cage? Last edited by Sauzer; 2013-07-29 at 10:37. |
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