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Serpit · 2009-10-07, 12:51

Ah, my apologies.

bigemperor · 2009-10-07, 12:52

No flashback as expected so eva found the gold because she is a mastermind NICE DEEN.

I really need to know if they used happines of the marrionete =(

Antera Caramichael · 2009-10-07, 12:53

Am I the only one who think that the coronation scene seems a little... empty (If I remember corectly, the room were crowded in the VN, it more looks like a little party here...)?

bigemperor · 2009-10-07, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Antera Caramichael

Am I the only one who think that the coronation scene seems a little... empty

Same here and i think there were docens of goats but well is our imagination.

Workworkwork · 2009-10-07, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Antera Caramichael

Am I the only one who think that the coronation scene seems a little... empty (If I remember corectly, the room were crowded in the VN, it more looks like a little party here...)?

DEEN tends to make huge rooms with not much space taken.

Escargotage · 2009-10-07, 13:21

Eh... there was.. NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE!

u2_nighteyes plays during the whole torture sequence and there's some track I've never heard before during the coronation scene.

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN.

Tyabann · 2009-10-07, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Escargotage

Eh... there was.. NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE!

u2_nighteyes plays during the whole torture sequence and there's some track I've never heard before during the coronation scene.

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN.

I'm really not sure why they do this. I mean, sure, "the differences between various forms of media", etc. but... I can't see why they change or remove half of the tracks like this.

What is with this studio?

MarthX · 2009-10-07, 13:37

They used an original song during the ceremony. Seems they couldn't use happiness of marionette. Oh well. I like the song but I don't think IT'S THE BEST THING EVER like some people.

Ithekro · 2009-10-07, 13:38

Because Kyoto Animation has spoiled people on what a studio can do with adaptations.

Studio DEEN is probably taking what would have been considered the normal way of doing things...if there was no KyoAni making them look bad.

MarthX · 2009-10-07, 13:41

DEEN has budget issues. Being able to use every game track would cost a lot of money. They can't use all that music for free.

Tyabann · 2009-10-07, 13:42

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Originally Posted by MarthX

Seems they couldn't use happiness of marionette.

But why couldn't they? What was preventing them from doing this? Did Beatrice herself burst into Studio DEEN and demand to bury them in cakes if they didn't use a different track?

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Because Kyoto Animation has spoiled people on what a studio can do with adaptations.

Studio DEEN is probably taking what would have been considered the normal way of doing things...if there was no KyoAni making them look bad.

No, KyoAni has raised the bar for adaptations. That's not quite the same thing.

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Originally Posted by MarthX

DEEN has budget issues. Being able to use every game track would cost a lot of money. They can't use all that music for free.

Wait, is that really how it works? Track by track? That seems kind of... odd.

UnknownBeast · 2009-10-07, 13:45

And so they used the budget to make a brand new track instead.

???

bigemperor · 2009-10-07, 13:49

NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE???????????

GOD i don't even know why i still see the anime, an amazing fail deen i better go to read the prologue to episode 5 again that 10 minutes are better that all the anime together.

mizou · 2009-10-07, 13:57

huuh?!
I don't understand your reaction
VN is VN, anime is anime .. no happiness of marionette and then ?!
you still have it on your pc, can hear it whenever you want !

bigemperor · 2009-10-07, 13:59

That scene without happines of the marionette is 10 times more common, in the sound novel i was almost crying in the anime it was like CONGRATULATION EVA BLA BLA BLA GOODBYE.

it lacks any kind of emotion.

Also they used A LOT of dai bgm and one of the best ones and one of the favourite of the fans they chose to take it out, i don`t understand deen AT ALL.

Serpit · 2009-10-07, 14:01

The original song is not bad. It has a nice eerie feel to it, but it's just no HoM ;_;

TBH; I think Nighteyes for the Torture scene wasn't a bad choice. In the VN, we experience the thoughts and feeling of Evatrice, and the icnredible joy and freedom she feels thanks to her newfound powers. Moon Rabbit's Dance is good for that purpose because it just intensifies that feeling. However, in the anime, since all thoughts and descriptions are cut, it seems more like a childish act of cruelty, so Nighteyes fits the scene better in that regard.

Evatrice's voice bugs me though. Didn't she have a completely different voice when she appeared in Episode 12? Now she sounds almost exactly like Adult Eva, only screechier.

**Klashikari** · 2009-10-07, 14:02

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Originally Posted by mizou

huuh?!
I don't understand your reaction
VN is VN, anime is anime .. no happiness of marionette and then ?!
you still have it on your pc, can hear it whenever you want !

Although I don't exactly think all details should be kept, the whole "VN is VN and anime is anime" isn't pertinent at all: the anime is another medium by itself, but it is an adaptation above anything else.
By this definition, the objective of such is to provide the essence of the source material, with an actual adaptation into the anime format.

The problem isn't actually why they didn't use X or Y track. The problem is: why do they use some of them, but then just misplace others or totally ignore some. That's how I see the reactions

momobunny · 2009-10-07, 14:04

Ugh... this episode was pretty nice for an adaption. But god... I now remember why EP3 made me so sick and why I began hating EvaBeatrice so much. @_@;

It's nothing against DEEN... but I don't think I'll be able to watch this episode again (subbed), so I may as well rate it now...

mizou · 2009-10-07, 14:04

I have noticed that on the last episode
young eva tend to be the same like eva !

even if it was 1000 better when it was her first appearance !

bigemperor · 2009-10-07, 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klashikari

The problem isn't actually why they didn't use X or Y track. The problem is: why do they use some of them, but then just misplace others or totally ignore some. That's how I see the reactions

EXACTLY that's how i feel.

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Originally Posted by Serpit

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Evatrice's voice bugs me though. Didn't she have a completely different voice when she appeared in Episode 12? Now she sounds almost exactly like Adult Eva, only screechier.

Same here, i LOVE her voice in episode 12.

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2009-10-07, 13:21	Link #26
Escargotage I want to believe. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 33	Eh... there was.. NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE! u2_nighteyes plays during the whole torture sequence and there's some track I've never heard before during the coronation scene. DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN. __________________

2009-10-07, 13:38	Link #29
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Because Kyoto Animation has spoiled people on what a studio can do with adaptations. Studio DEEN is probably taking what would have been considered the normal way of doing things...if there was no KyoAni making them look bad. __________________

2009-10-07, 13:57	Link #34
mizou Observer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Unreality Age: 34	huuh?! I don't understand your reaction VN is VN, anime is anime .. no happiness of marionette and then ?! you still have it on your pc, can hear it whenever you want ! __________________

2009-10-07, 14:04	Link #38
momobunny ◔ ◡ ◔ Artist Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ImaginaryLand Age: 33	Ugh... this episode was pretty nice for an adaption. But god... I now remember why EP3 made me so sick and why I began hating EvaBeatrice so much. @_@; It's nothing against DEEN... but I don't think I'll be able to watch this episode again (subbed), so I may as well rate it now... __________________

2009-10-07, 12:51	Link #21
Serpit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	Ah, my apologies.

2009-10-07, 12:52	Link #22
bigemperor Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	No flashback as expected so eva found the gold because she is a mastermind NICE DEEN. I really need to know if they used happines of the marrionete =(

2009-10-07, 12:53	Link #23
Antera Caramichael French Maid Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Poitiers; France Age: 31	Am I the only one who think that the coronation scene seems a little... empty (If I remember corectly, the room were crowded in the VN, it more looks like a little party here...)?

2009-10-07, 13:37	Link #28
MarthX Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 39	They used an original song during the ceremony. Seems they couldn't use happiness of marionette. Oh well. I like the song but I don't think IT'S THE BEST THING EVER like some people.

2009-10-07, 13:41	Link #30
MarthX Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 39	DEEN has budget issues. Being able to use every game track would cost a lot of money. They can't use all that music for free.

2009-10-07, 13:45	Link #32
UnknownBeast Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008	And so they used the budget to make a brand new track instead. ???

2009-10-07, 13:49	Link #33
bigemperor Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	NO HAPPINESS OF MARIONETTE??????????? GOD i don't even know why i still see the anime, an amazing fail deen i better go to read the prologue to episode 5 again that 10 minutes are better that all the anime together.

2009-10-07, 13:59	Link #35
bigemperor Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	That scene without happines of the marionette is 10 times more common, in the sound novel i was almost crying in the anime it was like CONGRATULATION EVA BLA BLA BLA GOODBYE. it lacks any kind of emotion. Also they used A LOT of dai bgm and one of the best ones and one of the favourite of the fans they chose to take it out, i don`t understand deen AT ALL.

2009-10-07, 14:01	Link #36
Serpit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	The original song is not bad. It has a nice eerie feel to it, but it's just no HoM ;_; TBH; I think Nighteyes for the Torture scene wasn't a bad choice. In the VN, we experience the thoughts and feeling of Evatrice, and the icnredible joy and freedom she feels thanks to her newfound powers. Moon Rabbit's Dance is good for that purpose because it just intensifies that feeling. However, in the anime, since all thoughts and descriptions are cut, it seems more like a childish act of cruelty, so Nighteyes fits the scene better in that regard. Evatrice's voice bugs me though. Didn't she have a completely different voice when she appeared in Episode 12? Now she sounds almost exactly like Adult Eva, only screechier.

2009-10-07, 14:04	Link #39
mizou Observer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Unreality Age: 34	I have noticed that on the last episode young eva tend to be the same like eva ! even if it was 1000 better when it was her first appearance ! __________________