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View Poll Results: Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 18 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 14 | 24.56% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 12 | 21.05% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 17.54% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 19.30% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 9 | 15.79% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.75% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-08-01, 05:54 | Link #43 | |
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2011-08-01, 06:16 | Link #44 | |
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Also, you get the impression that Minchi and Ohana were much more greenhorn back then. Where as Nako seems to have been employed at the inn longer than either of them (based on Sui considering it appropriate to have Nako instruct Ohana), so probably less needing a dramatic reminder of how she's supposed to act at the inn. There's also the fact that she's been more or less happy with Nako's performance lately. Seriously. Sui's behavior here is only surprising if after ep 1 you flanderized her into some memetic bitch who goes around doing nothing but slapping peoples shit up |
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2011-08-01, 09:05 | Link #46 | ||
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Just to be clear, I'm glad that Nako is becoming more assertive, and less excessively shy. I just regret that the way this assertiveness presents itself is through... Quote:
As is, the personalities of the teenage girls in this anime (including Yuina) are beginning to overlap a lot, and I fear that character distinctiveness may be a cost of that. Basically, a Nako that speaks her mind more often and with less stuttering is a good thing, but I question the wisdom of making her politeness and patience a facade, it seems. A character can be assertive, and still be polite, patient (to a degree), and thoughtful. I'd rather if Nako went in a character development direction similar to, say, Nia from Gurren Lagann, or Sawako from Kimi ni Todoke. A sincerely sweet person who nonetheless grows increasingly assertive over time, and has a good head on her shoulders.
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2011-08-01, 18:25 | Link #49 | ||||||
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Exactly what the show needed after last week's episode. I knew last week was just a case of the writer shooting him/herself in the foot near the end.
I especially appreciate getting to see Ohana from Nako's point of view. As I've mentioned previously, her saving the day again in episode 15 felt a bit Mary Sue-ish, so seeing the show acknowledge that she's actually not the sharpest tool in the shed was pretty nice. Actually, I feel that the perspective shift worked well in general. Edit: Although this episode is perhaps just a tad sombre for my taste. It fits since its a Nako focused episode, but my favourite episodes of this show tend to be a little more "fun" (Tomoe's episode, the opening arc, episode 13, even episode 12 because while it did have serious bits, it also had the kidnapping plot and Tohru way of dealing with it.). Quote:
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To be honest, the male characters in this series have been a mixed bag. There's a "pathetic loser" camp - Jiromaru and the random guys - and a "actually a decent character" camp - Kou, Tohru, Ren, and Beanman. I honestly think that the anime intended to have Enishi move out of the "pathetic" bracket in episode 16-17, but the pool scene ended up overshadowing all else from that arc. Hence why I say the writers shot themselves in the foot. Quote:
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2011-08-01, 18:43 | Link #50 |
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This one surprised me, it wasn't what I had expected from the preview... (Then again nothing is what I expect from those..)
The back and forth between Nako and Ohana was entertaining, with all the, ".. In a good way!".
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2011-08-01, 23:41 | Link #51 | |
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Despite wanting something more dramatic or even traumatic in Nako's episode, I can not say that I did not like the episode, it was well paced, and interesting.
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2011-08-02, 08:08 | Link #52 | |
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That implication seems rather harsh, and a bit overly pessimistic, to me...
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2011-08-02, 13:33 | Link #53 | |||
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I have been wondering whether or no having a "this is the purpose of the series" may be getting in the way some from the viewers being able to appreciate the series? I don't think it is bad, mind you, to approach a series from that perspective. But I wonder whether or no it can sometimes get in the way? I am not "accusing" any individual per se - I am just wondering. I have not really come to the series with an overarching theme in mind, and while I have been somewhat disappointed by certain episodes or mini-arcs, it was never as "intense" as other posters expressed it, it seems. It seems some of the posters who most expressed their dislike of Hanasaku eps came from the perspective of something like "this makes no sense in light of what I understand the overall message of the series to be" and "what is the director DOING?! isn't there contradiction going on message wise?" ... things like that. It may be possible that this might be "getting in the way" a little of the series, perhaps. Maybe? Just thought I would throw the idea out there....
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2011-08-02, 13:38 | Link #54 |
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It's always different for every person. Some people might see it more and be annoyed about it whilst others might notice it, find it a bit irritating but won't let it stop them from enjoying the episode. And then there's some that don't even notice anything (the luckier ones?). Everyone has a different perspective and a different degree of tolerance on certain things.
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2011-08-02, 13:41 | Link #55 | |
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2011-08-02, 15:58 | Link #56 | |
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2011-08-02, 16:10 | Link #57 |
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I agree, this show did not need 2 cours. They should've given another cour ot Angel Beats instead of this. Too many wasted episodes in this series.
I swear, I go form hating episodes to liking episodes in this series, it's just so irritating. I still contend that this show has an identity crisis, don't know if people see what I was saying earlier on, but I believe this to be the case. This show never knows what it wants to be at times.
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2011-08-02, 16:12 | Link #58 |
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It just goes back to terrible, terrible pacing.
Try again next time PA works. Even the good episodes like this are marred by poor timing or complete lack of timing. In other words, they have as much clue to doing a story as I have playing Sc2. :/
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2011-08-02, 16:26 | Link #59 |
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The vast majority of Hanasaku Iroha's episodes are good-to-great, in a vacuum. In other words, if I watched HSI like I would a North American TV show (randomly, through channel surfing), I'd find all but two or three of their episodes to be worthy of 8/10 or higher, which is pretty darn good for a series at an Episode 18 mark.
The problem is that... and this is admittedly a bit of an exaggeration... it has an effect on me vaguely similar to Haruhi's Endless Eight. Where either episode is good in a vacuum, but when I look back over the last five or more episodes, I find myself thinking "That's it? That's all the ground we've covered in all this time? That's all the character development we've seen in all that time?" Basically, I agree with Reck and Archon. Bad pacing, and I think that HSI might be a show that would have actually been better with just one cour, to focus the writing staff a bit more.
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2011-08-02, 16:34 | Link #60 |
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I agree, this is a show that would have been better served as a one-cour series. The rapid decline in post traffic is a good indicator of just how much of the audience has drifted off. I'm hard-pressed to recall a show where the delta between the best and worst episodes is so great, and that's often an indicator of a series with too much time on its hands.
I disagree about the vast majority of the eps being good to great though, unless I were to define "good" pretty liberally. Of 18 episodes, I would class 7-8 as mediocre to poor - and that's in a vacuum, not in context. I'm no mathematician but that's nearly half.
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