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View Poll Results: Guilty Crown - Episode 20 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 7 | 11.86% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 24 | 40.68% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 22.03% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 11.86% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 6 | 10.17% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.69% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.69% | |
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2012-03-09, 11:57 | Link #62 | |
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I still have not given my write up yet there are some things about the episode that are bugging me im going to do a 2nd view tonight.
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2012-03-09, 13:58 | Link #63 |
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I quite enjoyed the flashbacks as they did well to explain everything. But yeah like other’s having stated, there were something’s that were off.
The introduction of Daath still feels completely out of the blue as well as Yuu. Gai’s address to the UN was pure cheese on a stick. What the fuck is the GHQ and how the hell is it so powerful? Is it really America? They’re too damn scared to make it outright explicit so they just hint at it? There are a lot of holes in its concept of international politics. It's far too Hollywood-ish... I don’t understand why Keido just suddenly decided to shoot Kurosu. It makes no sense whatsoever. As others have stated, Gai and Keido’s acts don’t fit with what we’ve seen. A lot of people don’t seem to like the Shu/Souta reconciliation but I really liked it. Some people are saying Souta was being jerk was I don’t think that was the case. He wasn’t pushing Shu away because he didn’t want to forgive Shu. He was pushing Shu away because he didn’t want Shu to forgive him. But I guess a lot of people are still mad at Souta because he apparently killed Hare (He didn’t really) and that he betrayed Shu (However, if my best friend suddenly decided to make me work like a slave and still leave me to the mercy of a very traumatising disease, I’d probably feel like killing him too). At first I wondered why Shu wasn’t getting nearly as much attention in terms of admitting to his sins, but then I realised he didn’t need to. I think the loss of his arm was supposed to be interpreted as karmic retribution. It seems to me to be a pretty common trope in anime actually. Similar to Redemption Equals Death but not as severe. My only problem now is that they’ve made Shu too good. In the last two episodes, I thought he was great. I sympathised with him and thought he was awesome when he got his powers back. But now it almost seems like he can do no wrong. Even though he was wrong about giving their voids back, he wasn’t wrong to ask first. And he doesn’t have any doubts about anything either.
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2012-03-09, 14:31 | Link #64 |
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Quick question, is the anime get better?
I mean, I'm up till episode 5 so far and I'm still somewhat considering to "drop". I've only been in it this far simply because of the cast of directors. One being in Code Geass the other HSOTD. Any input? |
2012-03-09, 14:51 | Link #66 |
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I knew this episode would bring everything to light. I thought they pulled it off great and the reconcile at the end was a nice touch. Although they're trying to hard to cover up its religious roots, which are getting worse and worse due to their inconsistency.
So we learned that Yuu isn't actually relevant to the story in the slightest. He's merely a messenger for the demonic/alien order, whether they're aliens that created the hierarchy, or are actually spiritual doesn't really matter either since they both have the same agenda and are inspired by the same occult group. He also won't play a big role, he'll probably just leave at the end to report progress, or he'll die. We probably won't see the group make an appearance either. I laughed when they tried to coverup his actual derived name. Shu may mean "group" in Japanese but in Egyptian Mythology it means "He who rises up". The name has Egyptian links that span up to the book of Exodus. It's also highly unlikely that they went for something so primal given his huge role. They can't really confirm that his name is based off an Egyptian god, now can they? It'll sound too weird. The episode cleared most of the speculation they aroused throughout the inconclusive chronology, and cofirmed that Shu is indeed the reincarnation of Christ, or better yet Macroprosopos. This is definitely one of the better shows of 2012, and the ending is going to be big, but predictable. Spoiler for very probable:
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2012-03-09, 15:02 | Link #67 |
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Thats not really a questions that can be answered yes or no. Everyone has different taste in terms of what is good or bad. I find the story very indepth and actually requires you to do a little objective thinking and also allows you to see the darker side of human nature. Some viewers think the series sucks iv seen a hell of a lot worse than Guilty Crown. I feel its worth the watch but thats just me.
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2012-03-09, 15:14 | Link #68 | |
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Given what you've said about the story, I may as well give it a shot - it still has the element of surprise to it and I'll be sure to give it a chance. Relatively speaking, this anime has already got me off guard retaining to the fact in ep 5 - Gai literally ordered the pink girl to toy with his mind. That itself was shocking for me at least. Anyway, it seems like I have something great to watch. It was either this or Fate/Zero and I heard both of these anime are fantastic. |
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As for the motivations/goals of Keido (Shuuichirou) and Gai. I'm pretty certain the former's is born out of jealousy - he's been working towards Daat's goal since around the time of Shuu's birth. As for Gai - it hasn't changed the entire series. And yes, we've already been told outright what it is. By Gai himself, no less.
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Yuu is the mysterious, vaguely nefarious, shouta. That's a fairly common character archetype in action-packed anime shows, I find. He's kind of like the blond, petite, ojousama over in Rinne no Lagrange; he's there since "It's anime, dude!" Yeah, it's weird, but there are certain character types that anime shows just love to have for some reason (also kinda like maids, even when maids seem totally out of place with just about everything else in the show). Quote:
The international politics of this show is messy, but I have no problems with Gai's current standing. Quote:
In the Fantastic Four comics, the main reason Doom wants to kill Richards is simple jealousy. Doom can't accept that there's a scientist out there that's quite possibly smarter than he is. Keido likewise can't accept that with Kurosu. It wounds his ego too much. So Keido killed him. Is it extreme? Definitely, but it's fairly common in popular fiction. Quote:
With Gai and Keido, I think that their overall goals are kind of crazy, which is odd since they both seem reasonably sane. But hey, maybe they just mask their madness well. Quote:
I don't much like Souta, but I don't have any great desire to see him die. The real douchebags of the coup against Shu already "got their's" at the hands of Gai. Quote:
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I like this about Shu now. It's time for him to not have many doubts any more, imo. If you look at the major protagonists of similarly "larger than life" anime storylines (Madoka Magica, Steins;Gate, Mawaru Penguin Drum, etc...) they also put aside all their doubts going into the "Last Act" of the anime. This is just tried, tested, and true storytelling, imo. And in Shu's case, it's definitely helpful, imo.
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2012-03-09, 18:34 | Link #72 |
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(cover-up, cover up, coverup) All three can be defined correct, although I wouldn't use the word on a paper.
That may be the case for most but I don't agree with the two controversial mains, the names Mana and Shu raise a lot of suspicion. And the constant Hebrew references are another, perhaps you can't prove the relation between them, but you can notice the traits they incorporate from them. Obviously that isn't enough to assume, but if not then what is? |
2012-03-09, 19:37 | Link #75 | |
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As for people asking why he kill kurosu. Simple his journal had all the info dude was working on, so he offed kurosu and take journal to post it as his own experiment work. Win win for him especially that Kurosu rubbed him bad way with all of his achievements. For Mana I'm more than sure she will off Triton as soon as the occasion will come. Just wonder if crazy eyes will play some major role in anime or are just there for crazy eyes factor.
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2012-03-09, 19:46 | Link #76 |
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I'm curious to know why so many people seem convinced that Mana is going to turn on Gai, and try to get with Shu again.
Maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy, but didn't Mana try to kill Shu back in Episode 12? I wouldn't be shocked if Mana turned on Gai and tried to get with Shu again, but given what she was like the last time her and Shu shared a scene together, I'm curious to know why people expect Mana to turn on Gai and try to get with Shu again.
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2012-03-09, 20:16 | Link #78 | |
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I think Gai might turn good again for some stupid reason and turn on Mana. That would be trite though... get it, trite?
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