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Akyra · 2006-11-25, 17:50

Damn Bandai. We should take over the company, then force them to make kits and stop re-releasing the same kit with a different weapon system.

LoweGear · 2006-11-26, 04:45

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Originally Posted by Akyra

Damn Bandai. We should take over the company, then force them to make kits and stop re-releasing the same kit with a different weapon system.

If you're going to do that, then you should also go after other model kit companies like Tamiya, Italeri, Academy etc... they also release models in such a manner (and sometimes, the only differences are different decals).

Stop whining, and be grateful that at least we're actually getting model kits.

SNT1 · 2006-11-26, 05:05

It would really suck to buy an MG strike with all packs if I just wanted the Aile variant....

MakubeX2 · 2006-11-26, 16:46

Sorry, but this seems the real deal. Thinking about it, the 2500 yen difference justifies the quality.

1. 1500 yen for the gold plated parts which extends all the way to the inner mechanics, not just the joints as shown in earlier test shots.

2. 550 yen for the Action Base, 100 yen for the poster, 100 yen for the booklet and maybe 250 yen for the pipes.

Gundam Zero Force · 2006-11-26, 16:52

If only I had the time to make models . . . .

DarkWarrior · 2006-11-26, 17:12

Hmm, I could've sworn that the custom stand Bandai was talking about was the spider stand shown earlier, and not the action base. As I understood it, the regular Strike Freedom comes with a slightly modified Freedom stand, which has been changed so the tip can swivel up and down. And the special option Strike Freedom comes with the spider stand.. but then again I could be wrong.

M_Flores · 2006-11-26, 18:50

Damnit, looks like I'm gonna have to make a wings of paper again like I did with Destiny Gundam 1/100.
So what paper should I use for the wings? Should I use a light blue, or clear (see-through) white colored paper?

lol... this is just thinking way ahead now.

kct · 2006-11-26, 19:39

No idea >.> .

Any tutorials for GunPla around here? The parts tree is killing me (despite being mostly fine for a first-timer).

~~mangatron~~ · 2006-11-26, 21:15

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Originally Posted by kct

Any tutorials for GunPla around here? The parts tree is killing me (despite being mostly fine for a first-timer).

Among these 137 pages, or before the forum hack, there was a picture posted here that showed a dude working on some parts trees. Although it was in Japanese, the pictures were good enough....don't know where it is now

GameraBaenre · 2006-11-27, 00:50

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Originally Posted by kct

No idea >.> .

Any tutorials for GunPla around here? The parts tree is killing me (despite being mostly fine for a first-timer).

Here's a tutorial I made in Microsoft Power Point.
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/has...74.TPB.torrent

duotiga · 2006-11-27, 08:11

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2

Sorry, but this seems the real deal. Thinking about it, the 2500 yen difference justifies the quality.

1. 1500 yen for the gold plated parts which extends all the way to the inner mechanics, not just the joints as shown in earlier test shots.

2. 550 yen for the Action Base, 100 yen for the poster, 100 yen for the booklet and maybe 250 yen for the pipes.

http://www.katoots.com/forum/index.p...c=36299&st=140

Quote:

Quote Frm Tritone

NOTE FINE PRINT: do you all see the
Japanese text in the white box on the lower right? And the fine print below it?

They basically say that this is a CONCEPT / "Impression" image only. It is
not supposed to be the final form of the option parts, as far as I can tell.

BUT, as mentioned, the gold parts in the kit are the same kind of plastic
colouring as in the NG kit. It's not the gleaming gold as shown in the
promo pics.

everyone be optismistic.....

MakubeX2 · 2006-11-27, 08:14

I present my argument here again :-

If you are still not convince that Bandai will resort to cost cutting measure on this kit,

First,here's a blow up of the scan :-

Read 3rd line from the bottom :-

"限定版ではないめてご安心を"
"This will not be a limited edition, so don't worry"

So Bandai will resort to milking the SP.

Two, Gold Plating is never cheap. Compare the HG Akatsuki (2400 Yen) To HG Destiny Gundam (1500 yen), the 1/100 Gold Frame Amatu (3800 yen) to 1/100 Legend (2600 yen). Bandai promises Gold Plated parts for the SP, hence the most of the 2500 yen difference between the normal and the SP will go towards to paying the Gold Plating. Leaving them with litter or no cash to pay for other stuffs, so they might reuse parts (Action Base) or resort to cheap alternative (Clear plastic Dragoon Gimmicks)

Three, if this is an one time deal, Bandai might be kind enough to cover their losses by slashing prices, but as pointed out in the first part of my argument, it's not. So don't expect too much from the SP except the gold platting gimmicks and the packaging.

On a lighter note :-

lol, Devil Kerboros.

LoweGear · 2006-11-27, 08:29

Aren't we pessimistic here?

I know there are Bandai doubters around here (who can blame them), but I honestly don't believe they'd resort to that kind of thing for the SP (or Full Burst Mode Parts IIRC). They can create custom stands for the MG F91, and they can afford to make PG's and Gold Plated MG's. How can they not be able to deliver on the promised custom stand for the SP, when there's clearly lineart showing the concept for it (and Bandai's been known to stick VERY close to the lineart?)

And the "not limited edition" argument isn't convincing enough, as opposed to the "impression only" evidence shown. Bandai is RICH you know, despite the difficulties of marketing. Bandai can sometimes be lazy, but they've never cut corners like that before, especially not now on their most hyped up MS, the Strike Freedom. If they are milking the S-Freedom, then you know they're gonna devote a whole lot of time and money on giving us at least a decent product.

MakubeX2 · 2006-11-27, 08:43

Yes. I do agreed that there's a standard to be met for Bandai, but what I'm not convince about is that a 2500 yen difference is enough to buy us Gold Platings with Good Extras, especially if Bandai is going to mass produce the SP.

If it's a one time deal, we can accept that Bandai will make something good for us at 2500 yen as a Christmas Present of sort for a good will gesture. But if they are mass producing it.....2500 yen may not be enough to cover everything.

In short, I asking everyone not to get their hope up if something disappointing comes up.

As a recent example, Bandai promises Glow-In-The-Dark Gimmmick for the HG Stargazer, they give us Hologram Stickers. While still good, but it's far from what they had promise.

LoweGear · 2006-11-27, 09:38

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2

As a recent example, Bandai promises Glow-In-The-Dark Gimmmick for the HG Stargazer, they give us Hologram Stickers. While still good, but it's far from what they had promise.

I agree with your last point, but still no reason to be pessimistic. And none of us actually knew that Stargazer would have a glow in the dark gimmick (it came as quite a shock to a lot of people when it was revealed in hobby show pics). That Stargazer even came with such a thing was enough to make me spaz out, even though it was only hologram stickers, because before that I was expecting just a plain old model (There wasn't really anything much that you could've expected from Stargazer initially).

kct · 2006-11-27, 11:48

Hmmm...so my C1 got infected by the 'too much weight on the top' problem.

SNT1 · 2006-11-27, 12:52

hm. I thought the weight was well-balanced. Well, try putting some weight inside lower legs/feet then.

Meehlimo · 2006-11-27, 15:44

U can do a trick by puting small bead weights in the the feet and legs to make it heavier for balence.

M_Flores · 2006-11-27, 18:32

I'd be surprised, but very pleased if the SP Options also included another beam shield, like the other SFs never had v_v;...

MakubeX2 · 2006-11-27, 18:40

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Originally Posted by LoweGear

I agree with your last point, but still no reason to be pessimistic. And none of us actually knew that Stargazer would have a glow in the dark gimmick (it came as quite a shock to a lot of people when it was revealed in hobby show pics).

It was mentioned that the HG Stargazer have a Glow-In-The-Dark Gimmick when the promo pix first came out :-

http://www.hobby-midori.com/img/hbjilyouhou/pn-0539.JPG

But it was not mentioned that it will have those Rings which are first revealed at the Hobby Show along with the hologram stickers.

2006-11-27, 08:29	Link #2733
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	Aren't we pessimistic here? I know there are Bandai doubters around here (who can blame them), but I honestly don't believe they'd resort to that kind of thing for the SP (or Full Burst Mode Parts IIRC). They can create custom stands for the MG F91, and they can afford to make PG's and Gold Plated MG's. How can they not be able to deliver on the promised custom stand for the SP, when there's clearly lineart showing the concept for it (and Bandai's been known to stick VERY close to the lineart?) And the "not limited edition" argument isn't convincing enough, as opposed to the "impression only" evidence shown. Bandai is RICH you know, despite the difficulties of marketing. Bandai can sometimes be lazy, but they've never cut corners like that before, especially not now on their most hyped up MS, the Strike Freedom. If they are milking the S-Freedom, then you know they're gonna devote a whole lot of time and money on giving us at least a decent product. __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2006-11-25, 17:50	Link #2721
Akyra Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Damn Bandai. We should take over the company, then force them to make kits and stop re-releasing the same kit with a different weapon system.

2006-11-26, 05:05	Link #2723
SNT1 r0x0rz j00r b0x0rz Join Date: Jan 2006	It would really suck to buy an MG strike with all packs if I just wanted the Aile variant....

2006-11-26, 16:46	Link #2724
MakubeX2 うるとらぺど Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 44	Sorry, but this seems the real deal. Thinking about it, the 2500 yen difference justifies the quality. 1. 1500 yen for the gold plated parts which extends all the way to the inner mechanics, not just the joints as shown in earlier test shots. 2. 550 yen for the Action Base, 100 yen for the poster, 100 yen for the booklet and maybe 250 yen for the pipes.

2006-11-26, 16:52	Link #2725
Gundam Zero Force Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 37	If only I had the time to make models . . . .

2006-11-26, 17:12	Link #2726
DarkWarrior Anaheim Electronics Join Date: Aug 2004	Hmm, I could've sworn that the custom stand Bandai was talking about was the spider stand shown earlier, and not the action base. As I understood it, the regular Strike Freedom comes with a slightly modified Freedom stand, which has been changed so the tip can swivel up and down. And the special option Strike Freedom comes with the spider stand.. but then again I could be wrong.

2006-11-26, 18:50	Link #2727
M_Flores Count of Monte Dorifto Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Isla De Monte Dorifto	Damnit, looks like I'm gonna have to make a wings of paper again like I did with Destiny Gundam 1/100. So what paper should I use for the wings? Should I use a light blue, or clear (see-through) white colored paper? lol... this is just thinking way ahead now.

2006-11-26, 19:39	Link #2728
kct Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the office, staring at my secretary shipgirl Age: 37	No idea >.> . Any tutorials for GunPla around here? The parts tree is killing me (despite being mostly fine for a first-timer).

2006-11-27, 08:14	Link #2732
MakubeX2 うるとらぺど Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 44	I present my argument here again :- If you are still not convince that Bandai will resort to cost cutting measure on this kit, First,here's a blow up of the scan :- Read 3rd line from the bottom :- "限定版ではないめてご安心を" "This will not be a limited edition, so don't worry" So Bandai will resort to milking the SP. Two, Gold Plating is never cheap. Compare the HG Akatsuki (2400 Yen) To HG Destiny Gundam (1500 yen), the 1/100 Gold Frame Amatu (3800 yen) to 1/100 Legend (2600 yen). Bandai promises Gold Plated parts for the SP, hence the most of the 2500 yen difference between the normal and the SP will go towards to paying the Gold Plating. Leaving them with litter or no cash to pay for other stuffs, so they might reuse parts (Action Base) or resort to cheap alternative (Clear plastic Dragoon Gimmicks) Three, if this is an one time deal, Bandai might be kind enough to cover their losses by slashing prices, but as pointed out in the first part of my argument, it's not. So don't expect too much from the SP except the gold platting gimmicks and the packaging. On a lighter note :- lol, Devil Kerboros.

2006-11-27, 08:43	Link #2734
MakubeX2 うるとらぺど Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 44	Yes. I do agreed that there's a standard to be met for Bandai, but what I'm not convince about is that a 2500 yen difference is enough to buy us Gold Platings with Good Extras, especially if Bandai is going to mass produce the SP. If it's a one time deal, we can accept that Bandai will make something good for us at 2500 yen as a Christmas Present of sort for a good will gesture. But if they are mass producing it.....2500 yen may not be enough to cover everything. In short, I asking everyone not to get their hope up if something disappointing comes up. As a recent example, Bandai promises Glow-In-The-Dark Gimmmick for the HG Stargazer, they give us Hologram Stickers. While still good, but it's far from what they had promise.

2006-11-27, 11:48	Link #2736
kct Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the office, staring at my secretary shipgirl Age: 37	Hmmm...so my C1 got infected by the 'too much weight on the top' problem.

2006-11-27, 12:52	Link #2737
SNT1 r0x0rz j00r b0x0rz Join Date: Jan 2006	hm. I thought the weight was well-balanced. Well, try putting some weight inside lower legs/feet then.

2006-11-27, 15:44	Link #2738
Meehlimo Gundam Otaku Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 38	U can do a trick by puting small bead weights in the the feet and legs to make it heavier for balence.

2006-11-27, 18:32	Link #2739
M_Flores Count of Monte Dorifto Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Isla De Monte Dorifto	I'd be surprised, but very pleased if the SP Options also included another beam shield, like the other SFs never had v_v;...