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Old 2009-03-06, 20:37   Link #361
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A insanely predictable story is not my definition of anything but "average"... I am not saying it's bad, it's passable, but I am just getting so sick of it... there are hardly any twists...
So your ideal story requires EPIC TWISTS and DEUS EX MACHINA out the wazoo then?

Predictability is not bad. The show is great on its own.

You just want Ami to "win" and you're disappointed as a result.

Go watch Shuffle.

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In all my honest opinion, this is more predictable than Mahou Sensei Negima.. -_-'
...Negima is shonen. No one suggested it should do anything innovative.
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Old 2009-03-06, 20:38   Link #362
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Which is in a totally different genre... so it goes. I'll just point to the title: Toradora.
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Old 2009-03-06, 20:39   Link #363
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If one accepts from the start that the series is about TAIGA and RYUUJI, then, well, everything makes more sense.
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Old 2009-03-06, 20:58   Link #364
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So your ideal story requires EPIC TWISTS and DEUS EX MACHINA out the wazoo then?

Predictability is not bad. The show is great on its own.

You just want Ami to "win" and you're disappointed as a result.

Go watch Shuffle.



...Negima is shonen. No one suggested it should do anything innovative.
I might also suggest Macross Frontier.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:00   Link #365
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I might also suggest Macross Frontier.
I don't exactly think that's what he's after.

Shuffle ends like how Toradora would have to end if it had an Ami ending, heh.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:02   Link #366
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I don't exactly think that's what he's after.

Shuffle ends like how Toradora would have to end if it had an Ami ending, heh.
I was being sarcastic. Been meaning to check Shuffle out for the hell of it though, hearing about that ending. [/SPOILER]
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:08   Link #367
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I was being sarcastic. Been meaning to check Shuffle out for the hell of it though, hearing about that ending.
Spoiler for shuffle:
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:10   Link #368
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If one accepts from the start that the series is about TAIGA and RYUUJI, then, well, everything makes more sense.
Ahhh... for that reason the novel is caleed "Toradora"???... </ironic>

Come on people... just read the title... what are you expecting?.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:11   Link #369
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Spoiler for shuffle:
Yeah, I just double-checked, whops. Does seem kind of like 'spin the bottle'.. okay you're paired! Is that the innovation sought?
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:13   Link #370
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Yeah, I just double-checked, whops. Does seem kind of like 'spin the bottle'.. okay you're paired! Is that the innovation sought?
A lot of eroge adaptations that lack a "true" ending seem to end up like that.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:21   Link #371
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Ah, solution then. *Ero*Dora. Shippers paradise.

Kind of curious why people are so obsessed with Ami winning? It's getting nearly to Macross Frontier Sheryl fan levels. Almost see an appeal between the two.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:35   Link #372
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Nah... you can't compare Ami with Sheryl... Alto was seriously interested in Sheryl. Ryuuji never was interested in Ami.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:38   Link #373
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Kind of curious why people are so obsessed with Ami winning? It's getting nearly to Macross Frontier Sheryl fan levels. Almost see an appeal between the two.
Something about the underdog and something about good television being cursed with bad fanbases.

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Nah... you can't compare Ami with Sheryl... Alto was seriously interested in Sheryl. Ryuuji never was interested in Ami.
Well, outside of "Wow, she's hot".
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It's not about interest, it's about qualities of the char, visual appeal/'star' power/idols. (IMHO Ami is better in comparision). Exactly Kaisos.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:43   Link #375
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What???... let me use some Shipper power XD

We have a girl who was an orphan, taken food from garbage and with a rare disease who becames in a intergalactic super star... and a model who like to sit between 2 vending machines.



Nah, seriously, even in novels Ami reach half the relevance to plot than Sheryl. Now, who is better?... hard to tell, there is also personal taste and that you cant measure. But to me, IMHO, Ami is focused in her own little world and Sheryl is quite the woman with determination... damn.... she has "Because I'm Shery Nomel" Attitude...

But if you like Ami, i respect that.
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Old 2009-03-06, 21:53   Link #376
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Heh, I actually really wanted to like Sheryl, but I started to feel everyone in MF was just acting only according to whatever the script dictated of them, not their own actions? Left a bad taste in my mouth.

Some of that in any storyline, but Ami felt a little more real. I can sympathize with not having much of a chance due to nothing more than timing/luck. Anyway my dislike of Sheryl likely had more to do with going over the shipping wars. It's finally laying to rest.
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Old 2009-03-06, 22:23   Link #378
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So your ideal story requires EPIC TWISTS and DEUS EX MACHINA out the wazoo then?

Predictability is not bad. The show is great on its own.

You just want Ami to "win" and you're disappointed as a result.

Go watch Shuffle.



...Negima is shonen. No one suggested it should do anything innovative.
nor was this anymore innovative than your "eroge" fest nor your typical "shounen harem" either.

I wanted Ami to "win," but I was never disappointed because I never had hope of her winning in the first place, because the show is so predictable. Why would I set myself for some ultra disappointment?

How long can it stay interesting when the whole story is about the process of him ending up with the girl who has overwhelming amount of odds ALREADY stacked in her flavor?

Sure, the show is pretty funny, I give it that. But for how it is setup, I find it hard to take its romance drama element any more serious than your typical run-of-the-mill shounen harem.
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Old 2009-03-06, 22:24   Link #379
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Why the hell are you watching this show if you don't like it?
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Old 2009-03-06, 22:27   Link #380
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Yeah, the show is predictable since it portrays the way things would have gone if this was set in real life. To expect "twists" from a story such as this really degrades the setting, the characters and the story since it would force it to be something that could only happen in fiction.
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