2011-04-18, 22:31 | Link #41 |
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One thing I think a lot of you guys are forgetting is that one of the main uses of the PS3 to Sony was to promote blue ray and I would say that was a major success. Sony won the format war after all.
This time around, they don't have to worry about their system's price getting jacked up in cost by stubbornly placing new technology in it. As for Nintendo's next system... I really don't feel like they can capture the hardcore market anymore. The ending years of the Gamecube and the Wii pretty much put themselves into a corner. They lost that base and I think its foolish of them from a business perspective to bet too much on trying to recapture that fanbase.
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2011-04-19, 08:01 | Link #43 | ||
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Good times gloating about that If a blu-ray drive is thrown in I would expect prices to be on the steep side but it is hard seeing Nintendo do that, they really are more about just gaming and not much else. But then thats a problem these days as for something like a console, people expect it to do other stuff. A new console these days that couldn't even play a DVD movie isn't all that great tbh. And I don't really care for the whole "Oh but it's a gaming console, it's supposed to be used for gaming" screw that, thats the thinking of yesteryear. Quote:
Plus even if they come up with a good online system, most people will probably still prefer LIVE and PSN. Still I have no doubts, this new consloe will be a success, Americans love Nintendo and they will most likely buy this regardless.
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2011-04-19, 08:17 | Link #44 |
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I have no trouble believing that Nintendo could make a new game system that contain Blu Ray while still both make a profit every sale and be affordable.
The advantage of coming later than the other two is that Nintendo doesn't need much research costs to get Blu Ray working. The tech is essentially perfected now and require no experimentation. The only question is how advanced Nintendo wants to go with the hardware. Probably only just advanced enough to be better than the competitors, but not too complicated as to make game coding difficult. Nintendo doesn't care if their hardware going out of date, so they don't have to design the successor to be supreme for 10 years or anything like what Sony aimed for with PS3. Wii is only 6 years old after all. Throw in better online integration and interactions with 3DS, and I think Nintendo would be all set. 3DS was cutting edge and risky; I think Nintendo would want to take it easy with the new console.
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2011-04-19, 08:21 | Link #45 | |||
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Companies aren't just making games for the PS360 because it's HD and more powerful, it's because something like Mass Effect 3 has a bigger userbase to sell to on those two systems than it would on the Wii itself. Why do you think there's no real 3rd party exclusive games anymore for either the ps3 or 360? 103 million is better than 50 million or 53 and it's also better than 84 million, especially considering the userbase that 84 million consists of. Quote:
The DS and Wii like them or not were innovative, the 3DS and from the rumors Project Cafe are not on the same level. Arrogance cost Nintendo a long way back as it did Sony, could history be repeating itself? Quote:
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2011-04-19, 11:40 | Link #46 | ||
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What the ps3, and ps2, taught me is not to use consoles for movie playback, it will break the drive, just use a usb stick. Quote:
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2011-04-19, 13:25 | Link #47 |
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lets change the subject for moment.
so wii 2 controller have touch screen. this can be used just like ds second screen (HUD, Map, inventory, etc)
what interesting is sony or even microsoft (to certain extend even apple) can also do this sort of trick. sony can used NGP as controller and microsoft can used WP7. this probably interesting battle field after motion control wars
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2011-04-19, 15:51 | Link #49 | |||||
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In any case, the business plan that Nintendo should be following calls for abandoning the the new market arena that was created once the competition enters and repeating step one by finding something else. How successful that is depends on how well they did their market research. Quote:
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You're jumping to conclusions too early. The second half of your statement is pretty much a word for word repeat of a post I read on Gamefaqs before the DS started selling like crazy. Just replace "3DS" with "DS."
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Some interesting things from a Q&A with IGN.
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2011-04-21, 02:31 | Link #54 | |
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Nintendo pretty much scare me away from buying a wii with "Wii Music" and other shitty games in a presentation of a past E3. But anyway i guess that as always i'll see the games first, if there is enough games that are likeable to me then i'll buy the "project Cafe"... Last edited by paladinenvec; 2011-04-21 at 04:47. |
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2011-04-21, 17:00 | Link #55 | |
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Some more details from IGN. Still nothing official, so take this with a bit more than a grain of salt, I suppose.
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As the IGN article points out, that GPU would outperform the PS3s GPU, and by quite a good bit, I might add. I'm get excited about this system. It looks like Nintendo just might release an HD console that is actually a step up or two from the competition, instead of something just as powerful as the XBox 360 and nothing more. We'll see what they reveal at E3. E3 shall be great this year.
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2011-04-22, 03:33 | Link #56 | |
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it's CPU that i interested with. seem used modified 360 which seem slightly powerful. however there still chance that ps3 still more powerful in CPU side. (but wii 2 overall still more powerful than 6 years old system) one weakness is that nintendo approach Dreamcast strategy (along even controller on the screen.) where seem it awesome in first place however it quickly get old. not to mention it expensive that PROBABLY will get price cut when 8 th generation start. so it's depend on the power. much more powerful than current gen? ps3/360 probably swap console. slightly? not a chance
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Dreamcast's failure had more to do, bad management and marketing. MS proved that an earlier release can be successful, with the 360. But yeah, just like you have pointed out it depends on how dated it will look compared to the competition, when they launch their machines. What nintendo has to deliver is a system that is easy to program on that even the monkeys from **** know how to deal with it. |
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2011-04-22, 08:45 | Link #59 | |
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Remember it is actually MS and sony who are delaying the 8th gen, so technically you can say that MS/Sony's next consoles would be 9th gen and the N7 a 10th gen system, aso. But on the other hand we have the NGP coming up, which could offer a similar experience, either on its own, if sony decides to throw in a hdmi port or in conjunction with ps3. |
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