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Kona-Kona · 2008-11-13, 11:38

Chiaki is our everyday male-tsundere XD
And Seki Tomokazu is doing a great job as his seijuu, I just have to love him. since this type of characters fits him (kyou, furuba)

Bikerider · 2008-11-13, 15:04

I can see Nodame's frustration with the ever so dense and demanding Chiaki. She does everything she can to go to Europe with him and then he treats her like last weeks trash. OH !!! and if she isn't at his beck and call when HE needs HER, well.. she's not really worth his fussing over in the first place. OH !!! He needs a smack about. Where's the queue to smack Chiaki ?

CWW · 2008-11-13, 19:42

Well, Chiaki did call her and she didn't call back afterwards. When he came back to Paris she wasn't there. When he saw her on the streets she walked right past him. All these little details coupled with Chiaki's childhood flashback caused him to burst with Nodame following rapidly.

Relationships are fickle affairs. Chiaki deep down just wants to be loved.

blewin · 2008-11-13, 20:40

everything is just too rushed. They should have extended the Paris chapter to 20 episodes or something. The fight is excellent, but there's not enough buildup (not like the manga).

though Nodame does love Chiaki, I think the two of them aren't entirely honest with each other. Perhaps misunderstandings arise because of their opposite personalities. man, Chiaki almost feels like a woman there, expecting Nodame to understand his feeling and resenting her for not understanding.. isn't that the woman's role more? girls being more sensitive?

ZODDGUTS · 2008-11-13, 21:19

The fight scene was done better in the live action drama it had more of a emotional impact between the two, the anime made more of a comedy intereaction between the two. Anyways here's the fight scene in the live action drama for people who haven't seen it.

It happens aroudn the 11:30 min mark.:

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6307969Q...iewType=search

nanafan · 2008-11-14, 13:04

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Originally Posted by Kona-Kona

Chiaki is our everyday male-tsundere XD
And Seki Tomokazu is doing a great job as his seijuu, I just have to love him. since this type of characters fits him (kyou, furuba)

i agree seki has done a wonderful job with chiaki, it's just like how i thought he would be. episode 5 was awesome. i loved what nodame and kuroki did in the play, definitely a priceless moment. and i loved the fight too. it was epic i saw nodame in a different light, and i think no one wants to make her mad she is scary like that.

Ascaloth · 2008-11-15, 01:39

Apologies for the lateness, but the Episode 4 article is up:

[RIUVA] Nodame Cantabile ~Paris Chapter~, Episode 4

I'll try to rush out Episode 5 ASAP.

Shiroth · 2008-11-15, 09:02

Spoiler for Episode 06:

Kirarakim · 2008-11-15, 10:32

Spoiler for For Episode 6:

Shiroth · 2008-11-15, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

Spoiler for For Episode 6:

It's also about Chiaki improving. Not just dealing with people.

nanafan · 2008-11-15, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

It's also about Chiaki improving. Not just dealing with people.

true, he still has to grow to be a good conductor. he still has problems atm.

Kirarakim · 2008-11-15, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

It's also about Chiaki improving. Not just dealing with people.

I am not saying Chiaki doesn't have to practice or improve himself as a conductor but that never seems to be the focus of his arcs like it is with Nodame. And all the stories that are about his interaction with people are related to him being a conductor.

Shiroth · 2008-11-15, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

I am not saying Chiaki doesn't have to practice or improve himself as a conductor but that never seems to be the focus of his arcs like it is with Nodame. And all the stories that are about his interaction with people are related to him being a conductor.

I think they change from time to time. Nodame has episodes where she interacts with new people, and changes them --- same with Chiaki. It's just their roles in the storyline.

blewin · 2008-11-16, 04:22

I'm rewatching the 1st season. Really miss the music there which is missing in the 2nd season. Just finished the episode with Chiaki's Rachmaninoff... they practically devoted the whole piece there. uh, 2nd season's such a let down in a way.

Dop · 2008-11-17, 06:45

I'm enjoying the second season, but my main criticism is with the orchestra animation.

In the first series, all the orchestra shots were stills, with movement only in the close-ups which looked like motion-capture CG, but done quite well.
In this series, the orchestra shots are animated, but I actually find that looks worse than the first series' still shots. It just looks like not very good CG and the motion seems awkward.

It's not just me, right?

CWW · 2008-11-17, 09:23

CG animation > no animation at all.

I don't really care about the orchestra. I just love to see the piano playing animated, because it makes it look damn impressive as it should be in real life. Many thanks to Akira for the detailed writeups of the various pieces.

Matrim · 2008-11-17, 14:47

Very nice episode, Nissan - Toyota, Nodame's biting attacks and Elise's antics made me laugh out loud despite remembering them from the manga. Son Rui got some development, Chiaki got some much needed humbling again.

And surprise, surprise, things make a lot more sense when they adapt only a few chapters per episode. I really hope they will stick to this more modest pace. But since I rarely watch anime based on mangas that I have read and am the kind of guy who likes to find faults, here are some minor changes which I didn't like:

Spoiler for the manga:

P.S. I was wondering if they were going to change Jean to make him fit the image they created for him in episode 2. Apparently the answer in negative. Even though Chiaki beat him by "enjoying the music more" in the anime, Jean still gets the more prestigious job due to him being more flashy and showy. Is it just me or this doesn't make a whole lot of sense?

P.P.S. This post got way too negative, let's just say I will be very happy if all the faults of the anime from now on are as minor as those I listed.

Ascaloth · 2008-11-17, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Matrim

And surprise, surprise, things make a lot more sense when they adapt only a few chapters per episode. I really hope they will stick to this more modest pace. But since I rarely watch anime based on mangas that I have read and am the kind of guy who likes to find faults, here are some minor changes which I didn't like:

Spoiler for the manga:

Allow me to add another one.

So, Nodame basically asked Son Rui what the hell the latter is doing in Paris, and then the scene cuts to Son Rui meeting Chiaki in the marketplace, and Nodame making her biting "cockblock" attempt. Doesn't anyone wonder what happened between these two scenes? Didn't anyone wonder what Rui said to Nodame after that, and why Nodame just happened to conveniently appear at the marketplace in time to catch Rui cozying up to Chiaki?

Spoiler for manga spoiler:

CWW · 2008-11-17, 16:32

Nodame asks why she is here. No answer. Nodame continues to stalk her as she did in the conservatory. Son Rui calls Chiaki and meet up. Cue cockblocking. There is no underlying significance to make it more complicated. Thanks for the exposition anyway.

I was however surprised when out of nowhere she managed to find Chiaki in person amidst Paris, but that can be chalked up to mere coincidence.

rg4619 · 2008-11-17, 17:10

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Originally Posted by CWW

Nodame asks why she is here. No answer. Nodame continues to stalk her as she did in the conservatory. Son Rui calls Chiaki and meet up. Cue cockblocking. There is no underlying significance to make it more complicated. Thanks for the exposition anyway.

I was however surprised when out of nowhere she managed to find Chiaki in person amidst Paris, but that can be chalked up to mere coincidence.

Pretty much. The writer chose to leave things up to the viewer's inference, which remains logical enough.

Granted, this is hardly the most elegant modification, but I guess that's their way of dealing with running time limitations.

2008-11-13, 11:38	Link #241
Kona-Kona Densetsu shoujo "A" Join Date: Oct 2007	Chiaki is our everyday male-tsundere XD And Seki Tomokazu is doing a great job as his seijuu, I just have to love him. since this type of characters fits him (kyou, furuba) Last edited by Kona-Kona; 2008-11-13 at 11:38. Reason: mispelling

2008-11-15, 09:02	Link #248
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Spoiler for Episode 06: Quite a few good laughs in this episode, especially thanks to house wife Nodame and jealous Nodame. Also Chiaki's reaction to the orchestra in the few final scenes were very funny. It's a very interesting obstacle that has appeared before him now, and if there's anyone would can come out on top and change these people for the better, then it's Chiaki. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2008-11-15, 10:32	Link #249
Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Spoiler for For Episode 6: LOL at Nissan Toyota It looks like Chiaki has another crazy orchestra on his hands. This storyline was not in the live action so I actually don't know what to expect this time. It's interesting that while Nodame's storyline is always centered around her improvement as a musician, Chiaki's is always about dealing with people. It definitely makes both their stories entertaining in a different way. Last edited by Kirarakim; 2008-11-15 at 11:26.

2008-11-17, 14:47	Link #257
Matrim Naysayer?Fanboy?Wiseacre? Join Date: Dec 2005	Very nice episode, Nissan - Toyota, Nodame's biting attacks and Elise's antics made me laugh out loud despite remembering them from the manga. Son Rui got some development, Chiaki got some much needed humbling again. And surprise, surprise, things make a lot more sense when they adapt only a few chapters per episode. I really hope they will stick to this more modest pace. But since I rarely watch anime based on mangas that I have read and am the kind of guy who likes to find faults, here are some minor changes which I didn't like: Spoiler for the manga: - Nodame gets to eat the delicious dinner she mentions in the beginning of the episode and then goes to sleep. In the episode I felt that her skipping a meal was totally out of character. - Nodame is even more frustrated at Chiaki and Son Rui in the manga because the talk mostly in English. Chiaki's remark about her being delusional is in English P.S. I was wondering if they were going to change Jean to make him fit the image they created for him in episode 2. Apparently the answer in negative. Even though Chiaki beat him by "enjoying the music more" in the anime, Jean still gets the more prestigious job due to him being more flashy and showy. Is it just me or this doesn't make a whole lot of sense? P.P.S. This post got way too negative, let's just say I will be very happy if all the faults of the anime from now on are as minor as those I listed. __________________ 'The world we live in is always in darkness.' 'Yes, and that is why we seek light.'

2008-11-13, 15:04	Link #242
Bikerider Senior Rider of Bikes Join Date: Jun 2007	I can see Nodame's frustration with the ever so dense and demanding Chiaki. She does everything she can to go to Europe with him and then he treats her like last weeks trash. OH !!! and if she isn't at his beck and call when HE needs HER, well.. she's not really worth his fussing over in the first place. OH !!! He needs a smack about. Where's the queue to smack Chiaki ?

2008-11-13, 19:42	Link #243
CWW Lurker Join Date: Oct 2008	Well, Chiaki did call her and she didn't call back afterwards. When he came back to Paris she wasn't there. When he saw her on the streets she walked right past him. All these little details coupled with Chiaki's childhood flashback caused him to burst with Nodame following rapidly. Relationships are fickle affairs. Chiaki deep down just wants to be loved.

2008-11-13, 20:40	Link #244
blewin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007	everything is just too rushed. They should have extended the Paris chapter to 20 episodes or something. The fight is excellent, but there's not enough buildup (not like the manga). though Nodame does love Chiaki, I think the two of them aren't entirely honest with each other. Perhaps misunderstandings arise because of their opposite personalities. man, Chiaki almost feels like a woman there, expecting Nodame to understand his feeling and resenting her for not understanding.. isn't that the woman's role more? girls being more sensitive?

2008-11-13, 21:19	Link #245
ZODDGUTS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005	The fight scene was done better in the live action drama it had more of a emotional impact between the two, the anime made more of a comedy intereaction between the two. Anyways here's the fight scene in the live action drama for people who haven't seen it. It happens aroudn the 11:30 min mark.: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6307969Q...iewType=search

2008-11-15, 01:39	Link #247
Ascaloth I don't give a damn, dude Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Despair Age: 37	Apologies for the lateness, but the Episode 4 article is up: [RIUVA] Nodame Cantabile ~Paris Chapter~, Episode 4 I'll try to rush out Episode 5 ASAP.

2008-11-16, 04:22	Link #254
blewin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007	I'm rewatching the 1st season. Really miss the music there which is missing in the 2nd season. Just finished the episode with Chiaki's Rachmaninoff... they practically devoted the whole piece there. uh, 2nd season's such a let down in a way.

2008-11-17, 06:45	Link #255
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	I'm enjoying the second season, but my main criticism is with the orchestra animation. In the first series, all the orchestra shots were stills, with movement only in the close-ups which looked like motion-capture CG, but done quite well. In this series, the orchestra shots are animated, but I actually find that looks worse than the first series' still shots. It just looks like not very good CG and the motion seems awkward. It's not just me, right?

2008-11-17, 09:23	Link #256
CWW Lurker Join Date: Oct 2008	CG animation > no animation at all. I don't really care about the orchestra. I just love to see the piano playing animated, because it makes it look damn impressive as it should be in real life. Many thanks to Akira for the detailed writeups of the various pieces.

2008-11-17, 16:32	Link #259
CWW Lurker Join Date: Oct 2008	Nodame asks why she is here. No answer. Nodame continues to stalk her as she did in the conservatory. Son Rui calls Chiaki and meet up. Cue cockblocking. There is no underlying significance to make it more complicated. Thanks for the exposition anyway. I was however surprised when out of nowhere she managed to find Chiaki in person amidst Paris, but that can be chalked up to mere coincidence.