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thoughts about this ep? bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh............. .......
Spoiler for episode 16:
no scarf part ? lame.
2 girls(highschoolers) beating the shit out of each other? too lame.
I've never seen 2 girls go at each other and I've known some crazy girls in my life. Not in school or a club or drunk in a party, I have seen them push each other or throw stuff like glasses or ice but never have I seen 2 women like taiga and sumire. I know it's an anime and it's fiction and all that but I just hope they would have toned down the fight part. I was very disappointed when I read the bloodbath in the light novel and even more disappointed when I saw this episode and both girls ending up like Rocky Balboa.
thoughts about this ep? bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh............. .......
Spoiler for episode 16:
no scarf part ? lame.
2 girls(highschoolers) beating the shit out of each other? too lame.
I've never seen 2 girls go at each other and I've known some crazy girls in my life. Not in school or a club or drunk in a party, I have seen them push each other or throw stuff like glasses or ice but never have I seen 2 women like taiga and sumire. I know it's an anime and it's fiction and all that but I just hope they would have toned down the fight part. I was very disappointed when I read the bloodbath in the light novel and even more disappointed when I saw this episode and both girls ending up like Rocky Balboa.
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
/end rant
The scarf part was last episode, I think.
As for the rest, you just fail. You're imposing your own view of reality on a fictional series. And that's just dumb.
thoughts about this ep? bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh............. .......
Spoiler for episode 16:
no scarf part ? lame.
2 girls(highschoolers) beating the shit out of each other? too lame.
I've never seen 2 girls go at each other and I've known some crazy girls in my life. Not in school or a club or drunk in a party, I have seen them push each other or throw stuff like glasses or ice but never have I seen 2 women like taiga and sumire. I know it's an anime and it's fiction and all that but I just hope they would have toned down the fight part. I was very disappointed when I read the bloodbath in the light novel and even more disappointed when I saw this episode and both girls ending up like Rocky Balboa.
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
/end rant
I haven't seen the ep yet, however
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I could imagine how it went, since I read it in the light novel as well. I am currently watching the uploaded raw, but I have to wait for subs later.
In any event, girls getting into serious fights is nothing new. I think you're probably uncomfortable, and I am taking some license here, because you've never seen such a thing. I have. I went to all Girls Catholic schools...there's not much I haven't seen girls do and girls can be dirty fighters. I've seen girls beat other girls with a public telephone mouthpiece. I've seen girls gang up on other girls and beat them, not slap them...beat and kick them around.
Not to mention, I think girls should not be messed around with because they're also known as dirty fighters. I do come from New York City...so I guess we're different here...but it was all girls Catholic....girls are pretty crazy and I've seen a lot. So it's not surprising if they attack each other. So in reality stuff like that does happen and in school.
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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon
The scarf part was last episode, I think.
As for the rest, you just fail. You're imposing your own view of reality on a fictional series. And that's just dumb.
Not too dumb. From fictional series to books people always transpose their own view of reality onto fictional characters as they do to live people. So that's not so much a fail...just something people need to work on at times because it could lead at times to intolerance.
Not too dumb. From fictional series to books people always transpose their own view of reality onto fictional characters as they do to live people. So that's not so much a fail...just something people need to work on at times because it could lead at times to intolerance.
People really need to work on it, especially in a series like this that relies so much on empathy to tell a story...
Judging from the previous episode, I though this one would be pretty lackluster, but boy oh boy was I wrong...
Spoiler for Great episode:
Everything was just where it was supposed to be as in the novel, and as an adaptation, JC staff did an excellent job. The first half was standard stuff, but the second was pretty intense, both physically and emotionally. You can almost feel the anguish in Taiga when she realized she did all that work to have Kitamura announce to the whole school that he liked someone else. When she slumped to the floor, you can hear her say, "What the hell was I doing all this while". And finally, some real action scenes, although I would say it stuck a bit to closely to the novel.
Sumire was quite a hit this episode. I'm not a fan of her straightforward ways, but what really got to me was how her brick dam of a face finally broke and gave way to the flood of emotions dammed up inside. Its like how soft plastic will only bend when hit and how tough, fragile glass will shatter.
I feel guilty previously hoping this episode would quickly end and bring the christmas arc; it went way past my expectations for it. Music placement was pitch-perfect, and it really brought out the emotions very well especially at the parts when Sumire starts crying and when Taiga prepares to attack.
This episode deserves a 10/10 for proving how wrong my previous judgment of this episode was.
Judging from the previous episode, I though this one would be pretty lackluster, but boy oh boy was I wrong...
Spoiler for Great episode:
Everything was just where it was supposed to be as in the novel, and as an adaptation, JC staff did an excellent job. The first half was standard stuff, but the second was pretty intense, both physically and emotionally. You can almost feel the anguish in Taiga when she realized she did all that work to have Kitamura announce to the whole school that he liked someone else. When she slumped to the floor, you can hear her say, "What the hell was I doing all this while". And finally, some real action scenes, although I would say it stuck a bit to closely to the novel.
Sumire was quite a hit this episode. I'm not a fan of her straightforward ways, but what really got to me was how her brick dam of a face finally broke and gave way to the flood of emotions dammed up inside. Its like how soft plastic will only bend when hit and how tough, fragile glass will shatter.
I feel guilty previously hoping this episode would quickly end and bring the christmas arc; it went way past my expectations for it. Music placement was pitch-perfect, and it really brought out the emotions very well especially at the parts when Sumire starts crying and when Taiga prepares to attack.
This episode deserves a 10/10 for proving how wrong my previous judgment of this episode was.
I love Kanou Sumire. I loved her since she was introduced in episode 3. They don't show her alot, but when they do for me she ends up dominating the scenes. It's was great and I couldn't agree mor with everything you've said with a few exceptions. I was waiting with baited breath for this ep, since I knew it was on it's way
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I really think the artists really got the feel of the light novel to a tee. I mean the feelings and expressions on the faces of the characters was classic and on point. I imagined this in my head and the similarities were great. Definitely made it come to life for me.
Can you spoil me in regards to the Christmas arc?
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I haven't read up to there yet. By pm would be fine.
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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon
People really need to work on it, especially in a series like this that relies so much on empathy to tell a story...
Judging from the previous episode, I though this one would be pretty lackluster, but boy oh boy was I wrong...
Spoiler for Great episode:
Everything was just where it was supposed to be as in the novel, and as an adaptation, JC staff did an excellent job. The first half was standard stuff, but the second was pretty intense, both physically and emotionally. You can almost feel the anguish in Taiga when she realized she did all that work to have Kitamura announce to the whole school that he liked someone else. When she slumped to the floor, you can hear her say, "What the hell was I doing all this while". And finally, some real action scenes, although I would say it stuck a bit to closely to the novel.
Sumire was quite a hit this episode. I'm not a fan of her straightforward ways, but what really got to me was how her brick dam of a face finally broke and gave way to the flood of emotions dammed up inside. Its like how soft plastic will only bend when hit and how tough, fragile glass will shatter.
Really? Priceless!! This is already my favorite episode, and I haven't even seen it yet!!
Have to agree with the votes so far, great episode, made Kitamura way more plastic than he is usually described.I also liked the ultra deformated (animation wise) facial emotions just after the fight, that's really something you can't have in the novel.
I have no clue why they cut the second scarf scene, there was clearly a place for it in the episode and it acted as both a nice call-back to the previous incident and acts as a connection between him and her.
Besides that they did a good job of condensing the resat of the important scenes, although I would've loved to of seen Taiga kicking the shit out of Kitamura in the flashback.
Great Episode, but it would be better if they put more Ami moments.
Although it was small scene I think she did a wonderful job at the end whispering to Minori.
The flood of emotions were great but little hints like that with monologs that connects to the following stories makes this series what it is.
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