Higurashi - Game Discussion (spoilers lurk here)

[TheGuraGuraMan]

Originally Posted by FXtreme

What did you add?

Well, you did admit to trolling Tumblr on this forum. And if that was supposed to be another joke, well, you did do it a second time.

That was supposed to be sarcasm related to you and the general Satoko discussion, I even used a pic of Rika with Kamina's glasses to make it even more obvious. I didn't even think about the possibility of people taking it seriously, that's just their reactions that made me want to answer with trolling messages seeing at how they were so pathetic.

Originally Posted by FXtreme

this part does sound unfair. What exactly did you add to the Wiki to trigger this reaction, though?

Eh ? Nothing at all, I just completed a bit the Sui page the last months, and that was some weeks ago. She's just banning me because of what happened on Tumblr.

Originally Posted by FXtreme

I didn't "spam" anything.

You've been talking about this way too much for way too long, I personally consider that as spam, but anyway that not the subject and I don't want to talk about that again, we already had enough discussions to get out of this.

[TheGuraGuraMan]

Originally Posted by FXtreme

To be safe, this is my last comment on the matter, but you probably should have known that using a hentai image was going too far, even as a joke.

No sex, no genital parts, no nipple, that's anything but a hentai pic.

[Mr. Dent]

Aren't wikis supposed to be completely factual? Her stance on you and MangaGamer are completely subjective, so there's no point in banning people because they don't share the same opinion as you! Your images and such are clearly jokes, even if some people found them offensive, and should have nothing to do with your validity as a member of the wiki. Anyway, TheBiggestHigurashi is the admin of the wiki? No offence to her, but... how did that happen? I've seen her blog before, and even scrolled through it quite a bit, and... It's mostly just misconceptions and fundamentally flawed analyses.

Aaah, anyway, I'm glad you're back, Gura. Without you, more or less everything about Sui and the Matsuri patch would go unnoticed, so you're kind of important!

Please don't leave, Levani! All of this will blow over eventually. Hopefully.

[TheGuraGuraMan]

Originally Posted by FXtreme

How so? They looked like deep analyses to me.

Deep misconceptions if you prefer. I read her messages from times to times, It's always the same kind of stuff.

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

Aren't wikis supposed to be completely factual? Her stance on you and MangaGamer are completely subjective, so there's no point in banning people because they don't share the same opinion as you!

That's just how she is, aka the worst example of Tumblr, an egocentrically person who think everyone who doesn't have the same point of view is a terrible human being. I first intend to still find a way to talk to the admin who banned me, before I saw that was her that is.

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by FXtreme

Now I'm curious. What Higurashi-related (we should keep this on topic) misconceptions did you see?

There was one I read a while back on Keiichi's hole in Chapter 3 where she actually debated the likelihood of the Sonozakis hiding Teppei's body. I forget the specifics and, for some strange reason cannot access her blog, but I remember her deciding something really silly would be a more likely alternative. She also dismisses a lot of chararacterization as "and that's just Mion so of course she'd do that." (And yes, you explained, but that doesn't change how I feel.)

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by FXtreme

And it's still inaccurate to call me a hypocrite when I did address the the thing you said made me hypocritical.

If you can dismiss people's defensive statements and explanations as being nothing more than "paranoid excuses," surely I can do the same. But another matter:
Since the released the HD versions of the Matsuri opening, does that mean there'll be no new OPs in Sui? I swear I read that they made some new songs for it...

[TheGuraGuraMan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

If you can dismiss people's defensive statements and explanations as being nothing more than "paranoid excuses," surely I can do the same. But another matter:
Since the released the HD versions of the Matsuri opening, does that mean there'll be no new OPs in Sui? I swear I read that they made some new songs for it...

Obviously, it's the same as the Vanilla openings of Umineko with ps3 sprites.

[Shikou]

can somebody tell me how to 100% Kizuna 2? Im missing some CGs and TIPs

[GrAVit]

Originally Posted by TheGuraGuraMan

Damn, I've contributed to the wikia of Higurashi quite a lot for a few arcs, and now I recieve a message from the admin calling me a pedophile and banning me, without even a way for me to discuss about this, that's so great.

Wow. At least you didn't get perma-banned here, which is good, so it's nice to have you back.
But really, that's so unfair. What happens outside the wiki in no way justifies the admin's actions.
What they're saying is basically "You're not allowed to have an opinion on this matter, and if you do, you'll be punished for it."
Talk about a selfish "dictator".

[xPearse]

Originally Posted by TheGuraGuraMan

Holy cow really ? How come someone like that can be an admin ? I also found this on her Wikia page :

If you can't understand that the standards for sexualization of minors are even harsher in the east than in the west except in the otaku subculture, then you are too deep into said subculture from a western standpoint. For one Japan's government has been in turmoil and had to deal with other disasters such as typhoons, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, et cetera and from 2000-2010 no PM stayed in office long enough to deal with anything explicitly political and necessary.

This is why it hasn't been until this year that child pornography was banned. No PM has had the time to do so. Illustrated child pornography/eroticism has not been banned yet for the same reason - no PM wants to get into a fight with the anime industry. Not because the anime industry has a large influence. Steel does, anime does not. The anime industry is not worth their time and the otaku subculture is generally looked down upon - if any society had a distinct subculture where fictional child pornography and eroticism was commonly accepted and encouraged, it isn't unexpected that the subculture would be regarded with disdain.

Believing that the east is more "accepting" of fictional child pornography/eroticism is a myth perpetuated by vocal otaku who don't wish to see lolicon/shotacon disappear. The Japanese are not "more accepting". If you can understand that the overall atmosphere of their culture is conservative in nature, then you should be able to understand why fictional fanservice of minors is not accepted as common.

Yea, I noticed this on her wikia page a few months ago. I had a good laugh, because when Japan did a vote months back on child stuff and such, most people abstained where only a few objected against child porn, although it did pass. So tell me they're more upset than the west about this sort of thing, because they're not, and anyone who says so is an idiot. I'm not saying they approve but you know what I mean, hopefully and I don't want to rant further on the subject. And, it was the distribution and sale of child porn which was banned (If my memory serves me correctly), not the act itself. Anyway, sorry for that tangent there but I really can't help myself when it comes to this sort of thing, even got a temp ban on Evageeks for it once. Also, nice to see your back guraguraman.

Originally Posted by Levani

I can't involve myself in a fandom who checks you out on another forums, then bans you in their community for disagreeing with you. I'm honestly afraid of these kind of people.

I really wouldn't want you to leave, as you and the rest of us are part of the fan base after all, plus you have been part of past discussions, so you leaving would only be a loss. And it really doesn't matter what she can do in her own control zone, because it can only reach so far.

[Shikou]

Im confused. Why would he be banned from the Wiki when he got banned (for a day I guess) on this forum.

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by Shikou

Im confused. Why would he be banned from the Wiki when he got banned (for a day I guess) on this forum.

The admin of the Wikia page had a Tumblr, and somehow found his Tumblr (Where he posted the joke "WE HAVE TO GO HIGHER" image,) and she decided that he didn't have the same opinion as she did, and so had to be banned. Had nothing to do with his posts here.

[Shikou]

Anybody found any Higurashi images that are related to the meme thats been going around?

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

The admin of the Wikia page had a Tumblr, and somehow found his Tumblr (Where he posted the joke "WE HAVE TO GO HIGHER" image,) and she decided that he didn't have the same opinion as she did, and so had to be banned. Had nothing to do with his posts here.

Oh, for some reason I thought his post here got him in trouble or something

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by Shikou

Anybody found any Higurashi images that are related to the meme thats been going around?

...I've never even heard of that before. I thought it was going to be the pregnancy one, but that- How did that even happen? That's not a very warm looking sweater. I... Did somebody actually wear that?

[Shikou]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

...I've never even heard of that before. I thought it was going to be the pregnancy one, but that- How did that even happen? That's not a very warm looking sweater. I... Did somebody actually wear that?

I've been seeing it a lot on CrunchyRoll and was sadden they didn't post any Higurashi ones

[Mr. Dent]

Originally Posted by Shikou

I've been seeing it a lot on CrunchyRoll and was sadden they didn't post any Higurashi ones

Looks like something Keiichi would end up wearing. Or, like, a really bizarro interpretation of Shion's outfit.

[Shikou]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent

Looks like something Keiichi would end up wearing. Or, like, a really bizarro interpretation of Shion's outfit.

I think both Satoshi and Keiichi would (be forced by Rena to) wear it. I do agree that it looks like Shion's casual top.

Originally Posted by FXtreme

What brought that up? That's so random. I've never even heard of this meme.

Might as well make a new topic so why not lol

[magnum12]

Well, just saw some Ufotable works and all I can say is "I concede". Ufotable is definately the correct studio for an anime reboot.

Maybe make it similar to Fate Zero (a must watch BTW) in terms of animation and art style.

[Katsu Koneko]

Originally Posted by Shikou

Anybody found any Higurashi images that are related to the meme thats been going around?

Oh so that's where it's from.

I saw a Rika fanart of it.

[GrAVit]

Originally Posted by Katsu Koneko

Oh so that's where it's from.

I saw a Rika fanart of it.

That's actually quite nice.

Also Levani, don't leave, the active part of this community is small enough as it is, it would be a shame to lose an active and nice fellow like you.