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View Poll Results: Tales of the Abyss - Episode 9 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 8 | 26.67% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 11 | 36.67% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 26.67% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 6.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 3.33% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2008-12-02, 01:05 | Link #41 | |
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About Tear, I think she learned about Luke being a replica when Asch came to save her. |
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2008-12-02, 03:22 | Link #42 | |
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We all know that Luke hasn't exactly been a likeable guy, but this event also goes to show how shallow Natalia's caring turns out to be and her flaws as a character. This is also a turning point for her. |
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2008-12-02, 08:59 | Link #43 |
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She may have suspected but she really did not know much beyond say what Natalia knows. Jade was the one with all the answers not Tear. He suspected something when he heard Luke lost his memories from that kidnapping incident and his suspicions were confirmed more or less when he saw that fon machine and the data. Tear did not put it together until Akzeriuth. .
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2008-12-02, 12:12 | Link #44 | ||
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Of course kind of the same with Guy just in reverse. Sure he tossed an apology for leaving but he never really tried to talk with Asch either. Can be such a strong support of Luke because Asch and who he is doesn't matter much to Guy. Maybe Asch never had any belief he'd be cared about so wasn't bothered by it. Both of them more or less have picked their Luke. Quote:
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2008-12-02, 13:15 | Link #45 | |
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2008-12-02, 16:42 | Link #46 | |
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When Natalia goes on to cite her objections about Guy leaving, the first thing that she thinks about isn't the fact of how Luke acted after Akzeriuth, but rather because he isn't the real one. The real Luke is here, the one from seven years ago, not the replica. That's her mindset regarding this matter. Like Natalia, Guy has a history with the two of them, as he has been a servant in the Fabre household for a long time now. The difference is, he figures for himself that both are their own selves and it just so happens that he has more brotherly or friendly affection for one over the other. |
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2009-03-03, 21:13 | Link #48 |
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This series is getting so good and learning about Asch being replaced by a clone (Luke) and then having been kidnapped by Van and all that, it's just great stuff. This is possibly my favorite current anime series and it seems to be getting better and better as the episodes roll by.
I hope it get's ported the the U.S and dubbed at some point, but it seems as if anime in the states is dying out |
2009-03-15, 00:18 | Link #49 | |
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sweet jesus, he trusted a guy that was like a father figure to him. he had no way of knowing he was going to be betrayed. he was used and used in a violent way. the group was blaming him like he was responsible and like he was in on it. if they were with him, they would of helped i swear of to it. they have no way of knowing such a betrayal would of happen. it is like blaming Luke for taking Ash's life away for him. Luke had nothing to do with it. Ash should be going after the people who set him up and took away everything he knew. Luke is an innocent party here. Bastards all of those party members, all of them!!
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2009-03-15, 07:29 | Link #50 | |
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I guess maybe shock had something to do with it, but still, I felt so bad for Luke. |
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2009-03-16, 22:41 | Link #51 |
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so true, till this day i so much disgust for all those party members there. at least Guy came back, but he should of apologize along with the rest of them to Luke and not vice versa which never did happen. seeing he had to prove himself and gain their trust made me boil
i know he was a brat but damn, blaming him and saying that he was responsible for the destruction and death of village and its people is huge, especially when you know Luke trying to do the exact opposite and being fooled by his father figure. that's alot and huge blow in shot
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2011-10-11, 15:11 | Link #52 |
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I can't sympathize with Luke at all so I take groups side. Luke brought it upon himself. He never cared about anyone just himslef, he is self centred idiot who needed a good and hard lesson. The group always tried to be kind and understanding to him, trying to make him see yet he never listened and continued to be self centred and egoistic. I would lose all respect for them if they wre to forgive Luke so easily after he had killed thousands of people with his own hands despite being said many times to stop! He deserves all the blame and I don't see a single reason for anyone to apologize to him, they did nothing wrong. It is he who has to aplogize first and try to get their trust back. He has lived in this world for 7 years already and should undesrtand what is right and what is wrong, he is not a baby!
He became a heartless bastard like that because everyone were pamparing him, it is time to grow up! At least it looks like he finally understood his mistakes and is willing to make things right this time, I can only wish him luck because he has a lot of work to do to get his respect back. I don't see why everyone are hating Natalie here, wouldn't you also want to stay with the person you loved? Luke was never same as Ash, she said it herself. They are too different people. And wouldn't you want to learn more about the person who was missing for so long? Wouldn't you want to suporrt him who had suffered for 7 years? Ash suffered for 7 god damn years while Luke got abondened just for a day! And in comparison to Asch, Luke fully deserved that suffering! The one I feel sorry about is Ash, he had everything taken away from him. His home, family, friends... it would be way to cruel if Natalie were to stay with Luke as well. I can't fully agree with Guy's desicion to go after Luke but then again I can see from where that thinking is coming so can't blame him either. Even though Ash keeps firm facade, that dream proves that he still is very hurt and still cares about his past friends. He needs them... Luke does need them too and if he will apologize, I'm sure everyone will accept him back and will start from the begining.
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