2012-03-19, 13:35 | Link #121 |
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Because I am trying to cover a longer timeline. Mind you, many of those are still active and their style keep changing. Just look at an early Jojo and compare it to a recent chapter. So no, those guys did not retire to the Shangri-la of oldef@g to get sake served by meidos. The same will go for Oh Great, Buriki, Titty Kubo,etc...
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2012-03-19, 13:42 | Link #122 |
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My only contention with comparisions is that if one is going to compare, one should compare within the same medium.
In this case, a anime cel of Konata should have an anime cel of Bulma for comparison.
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2012-03-19, 13:44 | Link #123 | |
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Now, tell me which one is Tsukasa, just from this pic alone, excuse my 5 minute photoshop, I even gave Miyuki free since her boobs instantly distinguish her, I'm lazy to edit Ayano, so that's also a give away.
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2012-03-19, 14:03 | Link #124 |
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This thread seems to be devolving into a false notion that the designs of one decade were intrinsically better than the designs of another decade --- when it really is just a subjective preference in taste.
I think both decades have both stellar and spectacu-fail designs and its pretty easy to cherry pick examples from each.
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2012-03-19, 14:17 | Link #125 | |||
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Yes, but that's common, isn't it? We see this in western animation too, don't we? Can you name examples where EVERY single character is completely unique from others within the show? In South Park, all the children look the same if you take away the hair. You wouldn't even be able to tell the boys from the girls! The only one you would know for sure would be Cartman, because he's a big fatass. And in Flintstones, Wilma and Betty have the same body and face shape too. Only their eyes are slightly different: dots and white with dots. XD Quote:
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2012-03-19, 14:20 | Link #126 |
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http://wbd.deviantart.com/art/80s-St...nata-141056000 (80's style) <- this one?
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2012-03-19, 14:24 | Link #127 | |
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Again, what's with the black lines across the nose!? And her hair is too short.
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2012-03-19, 15:24 | Link #129 |
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Don't have anything to say apart from the fact that I like the design of Dirty Pair's Kei. It is of course not up to me to pronounce on my own sanity. Like I always say, tastes vary, or "De gustibus non est disputandum" if I'm feeling pretentious.
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2012-03-19, 16:21 | Link #130 | |
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I feel like if one thinks an entire decade's art "all looks alike" then one isn't looking very hard, just doing a superficial glance.
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2012-03-19, 19:41 | Link #131 | |
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As a designer, one cannot hope to design something that looks too similar to something that already exists, this applies to all types of design. The general audience and customer doesn't pay too much attention on first glance, especially when they are not familiar with a particular genre or product. Just like people can't tell Gundams, Transformers and every other mecha apart. But in the case of anime, the designers have kept trying to design something that looks similar so that they can attract the same target audience, making their design choices narrow.
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2012-03-19, 19:50 | Link #133 |
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To be fair, in real life one might not be able to tell people apart in some regions of the world unless you start looking more closely. Especially those with a more homogenous population.
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2012-03-19, 19:53 | Link #134 |
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I'm really not sure why it matters whether you can tell the characters apart if you white out certain features. If there's ever an anime released where the characters are missing their heads then feel free to let me know, but otherwise I don't think it's too terribly important, and I always felt that the non-decapitated Lucky Star characters we see in the series proper were adequately distinctive. I understand that having a character set that doesn't follow any uniform templates points to better artwork on a technical level, but if I look at 2007 Tomoya and think 'Hey that's pretty' wheras I look at 1985 Kenshiro and think 'Ew that's ugly,' I don't think the latter should be deemed superior just because it demonstrates more technical prowess.
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Wut....what makes Dirty Pair's design "superior" to Da Capo? o_o Da Capo girls look just like other dating sim girls but Kei and Yuri's faces and bodies look just like other 80s girls' faces and bodies. What makes them "so much better"? What's the difference? Both are drawn with skill. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I prefer Da Capo's bigger eyes, sleek hair, and smaller noses. Does this mean I have bad taste in art? No, it means I like bigger eyes, sleek hair, and smaller noses. Quote:
*.* SHE IS SO BEAUTIFUL!!
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2012-03-19, 22:55 | Link #137 |
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Agree about the nose. Some anime fans that I know really hate it, especially when it was made very obvious like characters from Escaflowne, Fist of the North Star, Macross, etc:
I don’t understand that. It’s a normal thing for humans to have noses and characters can still look good with them. But for those particular fans, less nose is the way to go. If it’s so, then they must love Krillin so much . Spoiler for LOL:
(for those who don’t know: Krillin is a human character from Dragon Ball (Z) who literally doesn’t have a nose. It’s not an error in animation)
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2012-03-19, 22:59 | Link #138 | |
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No nose can look very weird.... but a realistic nose is a bitch to draw Also, when I say "smaller nose", I mean when the character is facing you. I've really no problem with Escaflowne's noses as they are noticeable from just the side view....which is normal.
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2012-03-19, 23:12 | Link #139 |
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Anime is designed for a japanese audience. A unpracticed westerner (okay, white, black, or latino) frequently fails to notice cues that differentiate asians in real life - they may just be bad at noticing the cues in anime as well. They can't tell asian ages either without practice (cue the innumerable "that's jail bait" noises made at adult asian women).
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2012-03-20, 08:17 | Link #140 | |
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Check a few anime art books where you can see the basic black and white character designs without coloring by the original artists, world of difference.
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Same goes for the modern designs by CLAMP and Hinoue but the Da Capo designs by a young Nanao are unremarkable and mostly imitates the work of other popular artists, mostly Mitsumi. Compare the original designs of Da Capo (Kotori) and Dirty Pair: Spoiler for Spoiler for space:
That you prefer VN style elements like really big eyes, sleek hair etc. is a matter of personal taste but that doesn't mean that mediocre or bad renditions of this art style are automatically better than quality artwork in other styles. Same goes for making sweeping statements on the quality of design from different eras. Last edited by Bri; 2012-03-20 at 10:09. |
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