2014-04-01, 20:53 | Link #4321 |
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I absolutely loved the pacing of the show up until the ant arc. It's godawful now, though. It takes forever for the plot to advance even the tiniest step. I'm still enjoying the show, just like I still enjoy the hellish molasses-slog that's One Piece, but my enjoyment of both would go up a huge amount if things happened ten times faster.
I was really excited to see the big fight I've been looking forward to for the past six months or so continue this episode. How foolish of me. That's probably still 20 episodes away. |
2014-04-01, 22:00 | Link #4323 |
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I guess they stopped adapting more than 1 chapter per episode in hopes that Togashi will continue the manga before they reach the end.
But I do hope with all my heart that they won't do it when we get to the serious fights,that would be annoying to watch.That's the reason I stopped watching One Piece. |
2014-04-01, 23:30 | Link #4324 | |
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2014-04-02, 02:11 | Link #4325 | |
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I hope i'm wrong, but i have the feeling they don't intend to cover the next arc, so they slowed down to fit the schedule accordingly. Odds are the anime is ending in June or September at most, so they'll need to drag out the remaining chapters a bit to extend this arc till there, if that's the plan. |
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2014-04-02, 03:26 | Link #4326 |
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Or maybe the point of focusing on this one chapter was just to give an unified thematic to the episode?
I prefer an anime that goes too fast rather than too slow, but pacing is not just about how fast things are going, it's can also be about making thematically coherent episodes and Madhouse has clearly made efforts in that regard every time they could. The last time people complained at the first sign of the pacing slowing down, it was because Madhouse had extended the confrontation between Kite and Hagya's troops, so that the next episode contained both Hagya and Rammot being dominated by someone much stronger than them (respectively Kite and Pitou). In this episode, the focus is on Welfin's breakthrough. To me, giving a proper frame to this development was much more important to the quality of the episode than the quantity of what was accomplished. The characters' psychology is supposed to be the point of this entire sequence, sacrificing its framing for the sake of accomplishing more things would just hurt the quality of the storytelling. And it's not like nothing was accomplished: Welfin letting go of his dishonesty and Ikalgo finding out where Palm is are pretty big accomplishments in their own rights and this is actually empathized too by placing those accomplishments at the end of the episode. And Palm waking up is also a pretty good cliffhanger (though it's ruined by the preview ) So anyway, I say that this episode's pacing was pretty good. Last edited by Suryce; 2014-04-02 at 05:40. |
2014-04-02, 10:49 | Link #4330 |
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The King can be one scary guy when he wants to.
Ikalgo was pretty pathetic. His hesitation only brought him more trouble. Welfin forced him into a corner and got the short end of the stick. It's nice to see that little octopus can still surprise. Yet again, the main event is stalled... I just can't seem to wait to see Gon and the King fight!! And what happened to Palm?! Can't wait to see more of that too!
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2014-04-03, 01:46 | Link #4331 |
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Derp we just want action
Lol @the whole "too slow/not much happening" Because if they stop to add details to characters, f**** the details, they just stopped. It's all about making anime a hisory book, Just give me this happened and that happened. Do people not really see it or just pretend not to to compare it with other shonen crap? |
2014-04-03, 13:29 | Link #4332 |
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I feel the same way. Something went seriously wrong with the series direction as this arc started. It's possible that now that they are running out of manga material they've simply decided to milk the series for all it's worth, instead of producing a worthwhile adaptation. Their audience will watch regardless, so why not.
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2014-04-03, 13:49 | Link #4333 | |
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2014-04-03, 15:45 | Link #4334 |
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I know nothing about the manga, but I'm sure the pacing is just as terrible there. The root of the problem is that he's covering so many different elements now instead of focusing on just a few things. HxH used to be the Gon and friends show and focused entirely on just a few characters and their story. Now the show gives nearly equal time to a cast of dozens of characters. There's just no way to get around that sort of huge time sink. It's going to cause any plot line to be dragged out to a crazy degree.
Some people won't mind this, just like some people don't mind year long arcs in One Piece or 50 episode basketball games in Slam Dunk. I don't like it when a show doesn't progress the main plot, though. |
2014-04-03, 16:13 | Link #4335 |
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If this episode was supposed to be an indication of pacing issues then call me blind because didn't notice anything like that. I must have been too busy being enraptured by yet another compelling antagonist that Togashi has managed to create. The Welfin Wild Card ended a little anticlimatically where I hoped for something more epic but it was one hilarious treat watching the shrewd turn out to be such a damn coward. Well actually that's not exactly right: he's no less cowardly than us. I guess that's what's so funny. His reaction to being shot and having a gun pointed at him was surprisngly accurate to how someone would normally react. Makes me wonder how the hell he managed to survive in his occupation from his previous life, though. No doubt he must have been using his brains an awful lot.
If there is one thing that disapponts me out of this then it's probably the way in which it conveniently stalled the kill count yet again. I'm kinda amazed that no one on either side has died yet (besides some nameless mooks) since this attack began. But it's not that big of a deal for me since I doubt it will remain the same by the end of the arc. At the very least I'm expecting most of the Royal Guard to die.
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2014-04-03, 17:34 | Link #4336 |
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I like the current pace actually. This kind of tension works well at a slower pace, specially since we never get the release or catharsis from fights ending, the tension just accumulates. Also, I don't think this episode would have come out as well if reduced to ten minutes.
On the episode itself, Ikalgo's solo sneaking mission is my favorite part of the whole thing. Yeah, all this superpowered people, and my favorite part is the octopus that cries because he can't kill. In the end Welfin too doesn't come out as a bad guy, because apparently noone does (except Pouf). Pitiful too, having his own ability work against him this much, being to be so out of his game, he isn't made for these things at all. |
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2014-04-05, 03:30 | Link #4340 | |
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As for HxH in particular, except for the last few episodes, it's not like Madhouse is deliberately covering less manga chapters per episode ever since this arc started...the real problem is that this particular section of this arc isn't transitioning well to animation IMO. Doesn't matter how many chapters they cover, the narrative makes it seem slow and boring. |
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