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Perfect 10 | 40 | 47.06% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 26 | 30.59% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 12.94% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 9.41% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-08-12, 04:54 | Link #181 |
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This episode have been a significant improvement from the last. So i'm glad that S;G has became more like an anime at last (instead of light novel in animation).
Read briefly through this,it seems punching Moeka incident has became the controversial issues around here? On that issue,i think the consequences should be accounted for judging the actions, and hence i think Okarin's actions can be justified in this case. I means he didn't cause a permanent damage toward Moeka after all (except stealing her first kiss)
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2011-08-12, 05:57 | Link #184 | |
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2011-08-12, 07:41 | Link #186 |
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The time leap machine sends data to a mobile phone, thus the receiving end doesn't need a time leap machine. The only restriction is that he can only leap 48hours backwards maximum using the machine, so the most he can leap back is 2pm 11th August as the machine is created on 2pm 13th August.
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2011-08-12, 08:12 | Link #187 |
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And how was Okabe still be able to time leap if Mayuri's death date was moved back a day every time they undid the messages? The one with Okabe's not stopping Suzuha, Rumiho and Ruka's are already 3 and the time of Mayuri's death should have been expedited 36 hours which means she died before the machine was created.....
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2011-08-12, 08:17 | Link #188 | |
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2011-08-12, 08:56 | Link #189 | |
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I now completely see where you're coming from, and your position is reasonable at least. For me, the key is that you're not judging Okabe as a person so much as you're judging his actions. Within that framework, I have little issue with your arguments. I agree with you that Okabe was particularly disgusted with the fact that Moeka killed Mayuri "for something miserable like this", as you say. Okabe may have preferred it if Moeka was, say, motivated by strong political beliefs that happened to line up with SERN's, and hence she was loyal to them for something a bit more logical and concrete. Honestly, I was surprised by Moeka this episode, because I myself was expecting her reasons for siding with SERN to be political in nature (since SERN's goals are, after all, establishing a worldwide authoritarian government). The fact that Moeka was motivated entirely by a basic need to feel needed and wanted was a very surprising character revelation to me. A good plot twist, in some ways.
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I'm sure the general consensus is that a punch is more common than a martial arts submission, and if you're not against it being perfect or gentle, then what is your point? Quote:
You expecting this person to have some type of martial arts training when he clearly hasn't shown an inkling of it in 19 episodes is irrational and unreasonable. Putting that into the story would have been called "jumping the shark" and would have ruined the story that you seem to have such high standards for. BTW, here's some links on your 'blood choke' http://en.allexperts.com/q/BDSM-2733/blood-chokes.htm http://judoinfo.com/chokes.htm http://judoinfo.com/chokes2.htm Notice how they repeatedly stress proper technique and supervision for "relative safety". And this from wiki Quote:
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2011-08-12, 09:26 | Link #191 | |
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Was Moeka coherent enough to go for a knife? Her thought processes were probably along the lines of text FB on my phone>someone is trying to take my phone>hold on to my phone>get my phone back>break down this door preventing me from reaching my phone. I just assumed all her thoughts are on her phone, not how to effectively fight off Okabe and a kitchen knife is not going to cut through a door so it made sense that she never went for it.
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Give me a break. Either provide sources where it is proven that a layman can easily train to use this thing safely or stop. Otherwise you are just sprouting out nonsense with no proof and not even an anecdote. Aka ignorance.
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2011-08-12, 11:37 | Link #195 |
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In watching all of the following:
1) Pro boxing matches 2) UFC matches 3) Fights break out in pro hockey games (such fights being mostly grabs, pulls, and punches) I find it very hard to believe that a lone punch has any plausible chance to be lethal. (I also was in a few minor scraps as a kid/teenager, but I don't think I ever took or delivered a punch straight to the face, in fairness). Maybe once in a blue moon if there is a massive strength/durability difference between the person delivering the punch and the one receiving it, I can see it possibly killing a person. But Moeka clearly is not a total weakling relative to Okabe, or he would have simply taken the phone from her during their mutual pulling contest for it (the fact that Okabe wasn't able to do so means that Moeka must at least be close to Okabe in overall strength level). The punch was a good, hard one yes. But can we please drop the pretense that it had any realistic chance of being lethal? That pretense is really pushing it a bit.
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2011-08-12, 11:41 | Link #196 |
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Triple_R. You are actually wrong! I have proof that a punch can be so lethal it could potentially destroy the universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw Of course, Okabe isn't that though.
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2011-08-12, 11:48 | Link #197 | |
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Hhmmm... who should be shouting "Captain Falcon!", I wonder? Kurisu, or Mayuri?
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2011-08-12, 15:36 | Link #200 | |
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That is how you create a fanatic that has beliefs so entrenched that they ignore the possibility of anything else. She was already desperate to begin with so it was easy for her to be manipulated to trusting only this FB. It kinda reminds me of people that I knew that had severe gambling problems. Even though common sense and logic says that they can't win by taking stupid risks they insist on it anyways because they are so desperate to win and ignore all rational arguments. Desperation causes people to adopt very warped mindsets. Someone that's about to kill themselves is at the very bottom and very vulnerable. It's ultimately why I think Moeka could not be saved without force. You can't negotiate with someone that isn't rational. You just have to take them away from the immediate dangers first. Because if they end up hurting others or killing themselves, then it's all over. That can't be allowed to happen.
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