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Westlo · 2013-10-12, 17:24

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Originally Posted by ZabiLegacy

But, what they are adapting is the story mode though. When you adapt any video game you adapt the story, and the story was at the very least in a VN style.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't your initial argument that Blazblue should be considered a VN and not a fighting game? That's what I'm responding too in general.

Master_Yoma · 2013-10-13, 21:15

Well finely got around to watching this and havent play any of the game but its not to bad of a start. But why dose every one who wears a red coat have such high bountys

Malkuth · 2013-10-14, 00:02

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Originally Posted by Westlo

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't your initial argument that Blazblue should be considered a VN and not a fighting game? That's what I'm responding too in general.

Like its predecessor GuiltyGear, as well as Melty Blood, BlazBlue has a lot of story material to work with compared to Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. That said, the presentation and volume is still nowhere near your average visual novel.

As for how much game players care about the story, dunno in the arcades I only read the dialogues when having a smoke break and most players only cared about vsHuman games, while at home I only bothered with Teach me Litchi-sensei.

Crimrui · 2013-10-14, 05:54

I have no idea what to think...

Was really looking forward to this and I knew that story will be ether too fast or they would change some of the things, but was at least hoping that battle scenes would be good. And they are nicely done (that Jin's attack...wtf!?), it's that a few more frames could really... I mean really help it. Lots of still shots made the entire first episode look really cheap. OP song is awesome though.

Still gonna stick with it, since I'm a fan of the game...

thieftheodore · 2013-10-15, 10:43

just found this in /a/ :

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Originally Posted by anonymous

I was checking out Alter Memory's Blu-rays on CDJapan and noticed that they have listed the names of episodes which are included in each blu-ray volume. Complete episode listing looks like this:

>1「赤き反逆者」 Crimson Rebel
>2「蒼の継承者」 Successor of the Azure
>3「傍観の眼」 Observing Eye
>4「確率事象」 Continuum Shift
>5「白き双銃」 The White Dual Guns
>6「偽りの世界」 The World of Lies
>7「審判の羽根」 Wings of Justice
>8「機械仕掛けの魂」 Mechanized Soul
>9「秩序の力」 The Power of Order
>10「神殺しの繭」 Cocoon of the Godslayer
>11「叢雲覚醒」 Murakumo Awakens
>12「未来への代償」 Cost for the Future

okay looks like my worst fear about this adaptation came true...

MisaoFan · 2013-10-15, 12:03

Spoiler for Episode 2:

Candeloro1 · 2013-10-15, 14:33

So will it have Continuum Shift too? Since Lambda appeared in ending.

shadow1296 · 2013-10-15, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Candeloro1

So will it have Continuum Shift too? Since Lambda appeared in ending.

yeah it looks like they be focusing far more on continuum shift since technically calamity trigger ended this episode

Candeloro1 · 2013-10-15, 15:28

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Originally Posted by shadow1296

yeah it looks like they be focusing far more on continuum shift since technically calamity trigger ended this episode

I haven't watched episode 2 yet, but I think next episodes are focusing on side characters like Carl, bang, Taokaka, Arakune and Litchi.

Crimrui · 2013-10-15, 16:13

*facepalm* The opening still uses the scenes from the first episode... I don't even...
Even if they are saving original animation when more characters are introduced, they should have used different set images at least. Or background the world... bah.

Was that original theme for Kokonoe from Chrono Phantasma?

sayde · 2013-10-15, 20:00

I'm still liking the anime adaption so far. Above all else though, the soundtrack continues to impress IMO.

Elestia · 2013-10-15, 20:20

It would have been better if they could squeeze some more budget into the fight scenes, but I am not complaining.

Shinhwa · 2013-10-15, 22:16

So... is Nu-13 dead for good...? Q__Q

Frailty · 2013-10-16, 00:43

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Originally Posted by Shinhwa

So... is Nu-13 dead for good...? Q__Q

not sure if I can answer that question

@episode 2
wow, Calamity Trigger's story done in 2 episodes. Well, considering that the CT Story mode on CSEX was a 2 hour summary, I guess this is fine.

Se7enSword · 2013-10-16, 00:45

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Originally Posted by Elestia

It would have been better if they could squeeze some more budget into the fight scenes, but I am not complaining.

I am, was disappointed with the fight between Hakumen and Ragna, i'm watching it for the fights the least they could do is do it justice. The Nu-13 fight was better at least.

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So... is Nu-13 dead for good...? Q__Q

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Malkuth · 2013-10-16, 02:22

Nu/Noel encounter was done magnificently, despite having zero background, which probably ruined it for un-spoiled anime/arcade-only viewers. Dunno, this anime too, makes me happy that I paid a little attention to the story, and generally am not afraid to read spoilers in order to enhance the entertainment offered.

That said, the anime has so many problems, starting from lazy animation, shameless reuse of animation and backgrounds, to pacing, storytelling, transitions, series composition... and so on. These make me curious about the objective of the production committee, since the anime won't win any new game players to cover the cost of this overpriced advertisement, since it is unlikely that new viewers will get into the game through the anime. Also its technical deficiencies of the anime are unlikely to make game-players buy the overpriced DVD/BDs, unlike if the money were invested into in-game animations. So the only purpose seems to be enforcing loyalty, but I doubt that this is necessary, because of the lack in competition. The game is so popular already, that even small village arcades offer it, unlike other 2D fighters.

ZabiLegacy · 2013-10-16, 02:27

Maybe, it's just the massive demand for an anime convinced some publisher to have someone shit this out? You are assuming logic went into the creative process, where this is clearly just phoning it in.

Malkuth · 2013-10-16, 02:59

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Originally Posted by ZabiLegacy

Maybe, it's just the massive demand for an anime convinced some publisher to have someone shit this out? You are assuming logic went into the creative process, where this is clearly just phoning it in.

Indeed, I am assuming that all collaborative decision concerning large (relatively-speaking budgets) are made rationally, and with greater deliberation and intellect than what any one individual critic can offer, otherwise to put it blatantly, these decision-makers are not suitable for their work, if they or their defendants can not easily counter the criticism

I.e. massive demand for a product doesn't mean that any inferior product of poor planning is better than no product. If the people involved are not up to the task of delivering an anime that will add something... anything to the value of the original, it is a waste of money and a risk of degrading the original.

Shinhwa · 2013-10-16, 03:02

I know this anime follows the game's storyline, but I really like Nu-13 Q___Q Poor Nu...

ZabiLegacy · 2013-10-16, 03:02

You're right, but Occam's Razor rules in favor of incompetence.

2013-10-13, 21:15	Link #242
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Well finely got around to watching this and havent play any of the game but its not to bad of a start. But why dose every one who wears a red coat have such high bountys __________________

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Crimrui Hollow Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mecha cockpit	I have no idea what to think... Was really looking forward to this and I knew that story will be ether too fast or they would change some of the things, but was at least hoping that battle scenes would be good. And they are nicely done (that Jin's attack...wtf!?), it's that a few more frames could really... I mean really help it. Lots of still shots made the entire first episode look really cheap. OP song is awesome though. Still gonna stick with it, since I'm a fan of the game... __________________

2013-10-15, 16:13	Link #250
Crimrui Hollow Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mecha cockpit	facepalm The opening still uses the scenes from the first episode... I don't even... Even if they are saving original animation when more characters are introduced, they should have used different set images at least. Or background the world... bah. Was that original theme for Kokonoe from Chrono Phantasma? __________________

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Elestia Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: California	It would have been better if they could squeeze some more budget into the fight scenes, but I am not complaining. __________________

2013-10-16, 02:27	Link #257
ZabiLegacy Robo Rampage Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Aboa Qu	Maybe, it's just the massive demand for an anime convinced some publisher to have someone shit this out? You are assuming logic went into the creative process, where this is clearly just phoning it in. __________________ For more from me, follow my writing at http://sekijitsu.com. To get easy accesses to our newest posts, please consider liking our brand spanking new Facebook Page.

2013-10-15, 14:33	Link #247
Candeloro1 Member Join Date: Oct 2013	So will it have Continuum Shift too? Since Lambda appeared in ending.

2013-10-15, 20:00	Link #251
sayde Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm still liking the anime adaption so far. Above all else though, the soundtrack continues to impress IMO.

2013-10-15, 22:16	Link #253
Shinhwa Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Age: 33	So... is Nu-13 dead for good...? Q__Q

2013-10-16, 02:22	Link #256
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	Nu/Noel encounter was done magnificently, despite having zero background, which probably ruined it for un-spoiled anime/arcade-only viewers. Dunno, this anime too, makes me happy that I paid a little attention to the story, and generally am not afraid to read spoilers in order to enhance the entertainment offered. That said, the anime has so many problems, starting from lazy animation, shameless reuse of animation and backgrounds, to pacing, storytelling, transitions, series composition... and so on. These make me curious about the objective of the production committee, since the anime won't win any new game players to cover the cost of this overpriced advertisement, since it is unlikely that new viewers will get into the game through the anime. Also its technical deficiencies of the anime are unlikely to make game-players buy the overpriced DVD/BDs, unlike if the money were invested into in-game animations. So the only purpose seems to be enforcing loyalty, but I doubt that this is necessary, because of the lack in competition. The game is so popular already, that even small village arcades offer it, unlike other 2D fighters.

2013-10-16, 03:02	Link #259
Shinhwa Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Age: 33	I know this anime follows the game's storyline, but I really like Nu-13 Q___Q Poor Nu...

2013-10-16, 03:02	Link #260
ZabiLegacy Robo Rampage Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Aboa Qu	You're right, but Occam's Razor rules in favor of incompetence. __________________ For more from me, follow my writing at http://sekijitsu.com. To get easy accesses to our newest posts, please consider liking our brand spanking new Facebook Page.