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2012-09-08, 10:35 | Link #202 | |
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speculating as always lol...
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2012-09-08, 19:42 | Link #203 | |
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Now I think you're right that the change in Obito's personality and ability is unnatural and probably a case of Came Back Wrong. He's twisted. I think it goes beyond him just learning from and imitating the original Madara. It really seems like the current Obito is a fusion with the memories and experiences of both Madara and Obito. I think Zetsu would be capable of making something like that happen. To me, that statement never really made sense. I mean, if Madara implanted his Rinnegan so that Nagato use it to resurrect him, and promptly died...how could the plan work? How could Nagato resurrect someone he never met or knew existed (since he seems to have had no recollection of how he got his Rinnegan as a child)? I don't think it's likely the real Madara died before Akatsuki was first formed.
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2012-09-08, 20:40 | Link #204 | |
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First, just because you say and think there is no way does not make it true. Second, if you have read all 600 chapters you would not be saying this. Third, that is a good point. I wonder if that could be explained by the fact that Zetsu is made of nature energy and can therefore manipulate vast underground networks, oh I dunno like the ones used at the start of the war. My most recent thought was regarding the Uchiha massacre. Something doesn't add up. All those eyes in jars Obito had... all that DNA... Seems to me that the creator of edoTensai also hasn't been revealed... and then there is the scroll under the uchiha building that holds the secret... does the sharingan evolve no matter who implants it, or did kakashi's evolve when obitos did? Oh and thinking about how Obito changed personality wise, I would have to imagine that a convincingly wicked enough genjutsu could turn any young chuunins mind. As far as who was who under the mask when fighting Minato ... I think it was Madara borrowing Obito's eye. If it was Obito, Minato should have been able to recognize his students mannerisms, but instead he identified him as Madara. Anyways, I think the storyline is fascinating.
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What happened to Madara dying shortly after awakening the Rinnegan, which would have been done something like 20 years prior? |
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2012-09-09, 06:41 | Link #206 | |
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It's common to almost all ninja in this manga to underestimate the opponent. He was never arrogant in that battle, he acknowledged Minato's power whenever he failed with some move/jutsu. I guess we had a somewhat different impression of Tobi, i think Tobi was never arrogant like Madara or Orochimaru. Sure sometimes he says something about Uchiha being better than others, or tells he is the fearsome Madara, etc., but his actions always show that he doesn't want to risk anything (in fact even at the kage meeting when he announces war he tells them that he himself is weak, so the kages should fear his organization and the 7 demons collected more than himself). Madara who plays with 5 kages and an army, Orochi who tries to fight 2 sannin without his arms, those are the really arrogant people, the ususal evil bosses who often die because of their own stupidity. I find Tobi a more interesting personality than those two. |
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2012-09-09, 11:13 | Link #207 |
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Does anyone think any of the Kage are dead and we will see what Madara did next chapter?
It would be odd, but Kishi might have not wanted to take anything away from Obito by showing the aftermath of the Kage/Madara fight. Which was the correct move since Madara showing up last chapter was a surprise. Rather than something expected. |
2012-09-09, 16:54 | Link #208 | |
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Though, I doubt Madara actually killed the 5 Kages themselves, especially since that would mean Gaara and Tsunade are dead and I seriously doubt Kishimoto would kill the both of them off-screen. Of the 5 of them, I put Oonoki and A as likely to get killed, even though I don't want any of them to keel over yet.
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2012-09-09, 20:17 | Link #209 | |
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- she was about to go Ham and rid Madara right then and there or - Madara ignores them and she heals all the other kage Considering Madaras entrance this chapter, the Kages are probably not far behind...at least I hope they arent...
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2012-09-10, 00:39 | Link #210 |
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Tsunade go ham on madara? Lmao, in what alternate universe is that going to happen in?
Madara said he was going to go get the kyuubi, and he more then likely left without any confrontation. I doubt the kage wanted to make a sequel out of their asses getting kicked, i imagine they talked shit as he left about how they weren't done, then took a big sigh of relief when he was gone. I don't really find the tobi character interesting at all anymore now that i know how lame he is, but in this next chapter i am interested in seeing how him and madara communicate with each other |
2012-09-10, 12:52 | Link #213 | |
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That being said, why the Uchiha didn't cannibalize the Senjuu generations ago is unknown (instead, they seemed to spend time cannibalizing each other). Presumably neither the Uchiha or Senjuu were big enough to do anything before the likes of Madara and Hashirama appeared, but that seems unlikely. |
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2012-09-11, 00:35 | Link #214 |
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Why do I have a feeling that the reason that Obito's crushed body looks like an old man with wrinkles is because either, Spot used Hashirama's wood jutsu in some revival style form, or maybe his involvement with the Rinnegan, like how it made Nagato all skinny and stuff. Anyhoo, I don't know what's sadder, Obito's reason for doing this, or the Uchiharem nega repping me for me having an opinion that doesn't praise their tragic Gods. Don't blame me that Kishimoto made your idols have the same emotion as a depressed wrist slitter who hates life for being so bright and colorful.
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