Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (take 3)

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Dandylion

Well whether YOU like it or not it's gonna happen through Turn 25's summary, and quite frankly your assuming this is not what he wants because Nunnally came back while he clearly stated he can't go easy on her anymore

like i said
if lelouch is willing to kill nunnaly for it then i dont care what happens to him (i dont even see a reason to care if he or shnizel win in the end)
if lelouch however is not willing to go that far and suzaku is (to the point of killing her himself or threatening to) then lelouch is again someone i can relate to and suzaku is an enemy
they may be on the same side
but if suzaku is willing to hurt lelouchs loved ones against lelouchs wishs then hes more of a problem then an ally

p.s get it into your head
this si not about kallen
this is about lelouch and suzaku and whether or not they both see eye to eye

[dec4rhapsody]

Originally Posted by youngde

If Lelouch had to go into hiding at the end, it might be difficult dragging around a 17 year old w/ the mind of a 10 year old w/ a slave girl mentality.

I would rather have a seemingly 16-year old C.C. dragging around a 10 year old Lelouch~~~MOE<-could have happened in the AU verse...But remember, C.C. was actually near Lelouch and Suzaku 8 years ago

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

like i said
if lelouch is willing to kill nunnaly for it then i dont care what happens to him (i dont even see a reason to care if he or shnizel win in the end)
if lelouch however is not willing to go that far and suzaku is (to the point of killing her himself or threatening to) then lelouch is again someone i can relate to and suzaku is an enemy
they may be on the same side
but if suzaku is willing to hurt lelouchs loved ones against lelouchs wishs then hes more of a problem then an ally

Lelouch really can't win.

When he dropped everything for Nunnallys sake and caused the ootBk to lose the Black Rebellion some people were like "he's a dick for doing that". Now when he seems to have put a greater emphasis on the plan for everyone elses well being, guess what? He's "an even bigger dick".

Really sucks to be him, he can't catch a break no matter what he does.

[Dandylion]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

like i said
if lelouch is willing to kill nunnaly for it then i dont care what happens to him (i dont even see a reason to care if he or shnizel win in the end)
if lelouch however is not willing to go that far and suzaku is (to the point of killing her himself or threatening to) then lelouch is again someone i can relate to and suzaku is an enemy
they may be on the same side
but if suzaku is willing to hurt lelouchs loved ones against lelouchs wishs then hes more of a problem then an ally

p.s get it into your head
this si not about kallen
this is about lelouch and suzaku and whether or not they both see eye to eye

I don't think you get it since they do see eye to eye on the matter and Nunnally's hindrance just got in their plan they had a month to settle with, I think your just tryingto make Suzaku the bad guy for the sake o it because if Lelouch doesn't kill Nunnally than he will (considering he won't be near her when they meet) so your arguement ends there

[Dandylion]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

Lelouch really can't win.

When he dropped everything for Nunnallys sake and caused the ootBk to lose the Black Rebellion some people were like "he's a dick for doing that". Now when he seems to have put a greater emphasis on the plan for everyone elses well being, guess what? He's "an even bigger dick".

Really sucks to be him, he can't catch a break no matter what he does.

He clearly stated that he's not gonna stop Zero's Requiem because o her, so he won't be making the same mistake

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

Lelouch really can't win.

When he dropped everything for Nunnallys sake and caused the ootBk to lose the Black Rebellion some people were like "he's a dick for doing that". Now when he seems to have put a greater emphasis on the plan for everyone elses well being, guess what? He's "an even bigger dick".

Really sucks to be him, he can't catch a break no matter what he does.

i dont know about that one but while i didnt like it i could relate to it
there was someone he truly cared about (the only one) at risk so he dropped everything to save her
this time he's droping not only her but everyone else who matter to him for the sake of a plan
and like i said
i cant relate to people who are willing to hurt their loved ones for the sake of abstract concepts

[Dandylion]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

i dont know about that one but while i didnt like it i could relate to it
there was someone he truly cared about (the only one) at risk so he dropped everything to save her
this time he's droping not only her but everyone else who matter to him for the sake of a plan
and like i said
i cant relate to people who are willing to hurt their loved ones for the sake of abstract concepts

abstract concepts that you have no idea what the benefit is in the end

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Dandylion

I don't think you get it since they do see eye to eye on the matter and Nunnally's hindrance just got in their plan they had a month to settle with, I think your just tryingto make Suzaku the bad guy for the sake o it because if Lelouch doesn't kill Nunnally than he will (considering he won't be near her when they meet) so your arguement ends there

is said that if lelouch isnt willing to go that far
and suzaku IS
then IMO he sucks
not that hard to understand (and againt its only IMO)

[bladeofdarkness]

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Originally Posted by Dandylion

abstract concepts that you have know idea what the benefit is in the end

nor do i care
you need to re-read my post instead of just quoting it
if he's willing to kill hurt his loved ones for the sake of abstract concepts then I and i want to make this perfecly clear I cant relate to him anymore

[Dandylion]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

is said that if lelouch isnt willing to go that far
and suzaku IS
then IMO he sucks
not that hard to understand (and againt its only IMO)

Whatever, if's don't hold a solid ground in an argument so your just assuming Lelouch will back out in saving the world because his loved ones are not on his side

[Dandylion]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

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nor do i care
you need to re-read my post instead of just quoting it
if he's willing to kill hurt his loved ones for the sake of abstract concepts then I and i want to make this perfecly clear I cant relate to him anymore

Well good for YOUit doesn't make anything you've posted valid up to this point.

[Dream_Traveller]

I don't think anyone can relate to him anymore after Turn 21/22 proved that he, through the course of 46/47 episodes, learned fuck all.

[Narona]

Calm down with the tone, guys. There were enough bans/red infractions this week.

And it will be a shame in this thread ends up locked up by the mods/admins before the end of the show.

[Dandylion]

Okay sorry let's move on, how will Lelouch approach Nunnally in their confrontation will he still hide behind the mask or snap her out of it

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

I don't think anyone can relate to him anymore after Turn 21/22 proved that he, through the course of 46/47 episodes, learned fuck all.

and if i cant relate to him nor care about him
then why should i root for him to win
becouse shnizel is worse ?
fuck that
if both sides are monsters then i wish them both the best of luck in wiping eachother out but i dont root for either
and since lelouch is the main character then if i cant root for him anymore then someone fucked up

edit :
narona has a point so lets end this here

[youngde]

Originally Posted by bladeofdarkness

once you establish him as a threat to lelouch's loved ones (kallen, nunnaly, maybe even C.C) for the sake of the plan
then he's an ass

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Kallen, one of Lelouch's 'loved ones'? He hasn't even reciprocated her feelings yet, and he's all too willing to annihilate her and her comrades with so much as an arched eyebrow.

Originally Posted by Dandylion

blade do you know what Zero's Requiem is, please tell me cause that's an extremely weak arguement since Lelouch agreed on what has to be done and didn't tell him otherwise or are you letting that sword comment get the better of you

I'll just quickly comment on these posts. BOTH Lelouch and Suzaku are already asses for being willing to harm/kill their own/each others loved ones. (And, yes, Kallen qualifies as one for both, although much more so for Lelouch than Suzaku. Lelouch even claimed she was 'precious' to him as early as episode 10). IF either Lelocuh or Suzaku are willing to kill their own friends/loved ones w/o even trying to explain what they are doing (assuming Zero's Requiem is a good thing), they are still asses. If Zero's Requiem is a bad thing (I doubt, but possible), Lelouch and Suzaku are the definition of asses. All this said, Schneizel is still a bigger ass than either of them.

Anyway, we shall just wait and see.

[TheEndofAce]

Does anyone think Kallen might hesitate in attacking Lelouch in Turn 24?

I also wonder what Zero Requiem is....

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by TheEndofAce

Does anyone think Kallen might hesitate in attacking Lelouch in Turn 24?

I also wonder what Zero Requiem is....

i think the proper response to that question is duh

[TheEndofAce]

I'm pretty much a noob here at the forums, but its nice to meet you

[youngde]

Originally Posted by TheEndofAce

Does anyone think Kallen might hesitate in attacking Lelouch in Turn 24?

I also wonder what Zero Requiem is....

Yes, yes I do.

No idea at this point. (Probably something to due with killing Schneizel and ridding the world of Geass.)

Finally, some easy questions to answer.

Originally Posted by TheEndofAce

I'm pretty much a noob here at the forums, but its nice to meet you

And a How-dee-doo to you, too.