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View Poll Results: Clannad series - Overall Series Impressions & Total Series Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 280 | 64.97% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 96 | 22.27% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 31 | 7.19% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 2.32% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 0.70% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 0.46% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 0.46% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.23% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.23% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 5 | 1.16% | |
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2009-12-05, 00:46 | Link #261 |
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That's true but I still doubt that Cross Game would pass Clannad on my list Clannad just holds the number 1 spot and I don't know if I'll ever experience another anime better than this series, but who knows. I really do like Cross Game though, such an amazing and underrated series.
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2009-12-05, 02:26 | Link #262 |
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http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=697
Hey, this guy hates Clannad. I think you should convince him otherwise. Oh wait... (looks at post date and name) So much can change in such a short time. I can't believe that was my first post on this site. And that thread keeps getting bumped to remind me of it. Sometimes it's just too easy to judge a show by its cover. But I'm sorta weird when it comes to these things. All the shows I end up liking the most I always start out hating. I wonder why? Personally I think Clannad ranks so high for me is that I would normally hate something like it as suggested in my old post. It's easy to throw in fanservice, moeblobs and violence and get people to watch a show but Clannad earned its place by going the hard way (aka writing a story people care about)
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2009-12-05, 03:11 | Link #263 | |
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But as a funny aside, I was always shocked to learn that Clannad is the clean game.
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2009-12-05, 19:11 | Link #266 | |
Alto x Ranka :)
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2009-12-05, 19:22 | Link #268 | |
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2009-12-06, 01:44 | Link #269 | |
そんなやさしくしないで。。。
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2009-12-09, 19:31 | Link #273 |
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Just finished my Clannad: After Story blog review.
This one's a bit more in-depth than my review of Clannad's original season, and maybe a bit more controversial, just to prepare people, lol. It also contains comparisons between Clannad: After Story and the Gurren Lagann and Mai HiME animes... comparisons that are a bit spoilerrific. Still, I hope that most folks here enjoy it. Here it is!
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2009-12-09, 20:38 | Link #274 | |
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As much as I would agree with an ending where Tomoya lives on without Nagisa, I can't help but be glad that he got the opportunity to live happily with his whole family. As long as there are animes out there with tragic endings, Clannad has no reason to apologize for a conclusion full of hope rather than despair.
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2009-12-09, 22:58 | Link #275 |
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Nice Review, Triple_R. Episodes 17-21 most indeed did happen, at least to Tomoya and Ushio, if you looked at the very end of the recap episode. The miracle at the end is the result of the whole series; as in those seemingly irrelevant arcs had those light orbs. You could see the whole series as a series of increasingly large miracles that cumulate into the biggest one (hope and life)-- hence the whole spring motif. It's not necessarily the best explanation there is, but I think sometimes explaining it makes things worse, as happens a lot in anime and fantasy. I will admit that the Key stories tend to put emotion above logic and thus have rather odd ways of reaching a conclusion, but it's not too bad here. This is really a taste issue; we won't boil you alive for not loving the show unlike certain fans of another show...
Spoiler for Air and Clannad:
Spoiler for Mai-Hime, and Clannad, since you had to bring it up:
But of course I just feel that the sad/depressing/melodramatic parts of both Mai-HiME and Clannad tend to get overemphasized so much that it's all that comes up when those series get mentioned outside this forum (along with omg omg what a ripoff!) Of course, those parts were well done, but they are by and far a part of the series, not the entire series. It annoys me as much as dismissing Higurashi as a gorefest or dismissing Shana as a shrill tsundere show. But I'll just stop ranting here. In any case neither show, Clannad or Mai-Hime Spoiler:
And before anyone tosses cliche at me, I argue that everything is cliche, including dark depressing emoness, which Key tends to do enough of sometimes.
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2009-12-10, 00:33 | Link #276 |
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Triple_R: first of all Clannad was meant to be commercial. It was meant ot generate sales and I believe Maeda was FORCED to make it a happy ending by Visual Arts. However after he was given full rein for Tomoyo After.
Although I liked the happy ending. It still taught its lessons that it had, and it needed just that extra spark of supernatural because of the IW. If the IW wasn't there, then I woulda not agreed with it. But because it was, it added the mysterious aspect to the anime, and let it stand just a bit apart from real life. Because if it was real, that'd be really heartbreaking. |
2009-12-10, 08:42 | Link #277 |
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DeX-kun, Archon_Wing, and Khu - Thanks for all the feedback, and info. What you said about Tomoyo After sounds very interesting in particular, Khu.
In fairness, After Story's ending was at least foreshadowed a bit through the IW subplot. And it was a happy ending, and all else being equal, I tend to prefer happy endings over sad endings. Also, Archon, I wouldn't call it a cliche ending. I mean... there's only so many different ways an ending can go, and, like you've said, they've all been done a lot. So, I don't really see either type of ending as being any more cliche than another type. Anyway, my critiques of After Story don't take much away from it for me. It's still one of my favorite animes, and it has an outstanding cast of characters. I guess that... since After Story did give us a happy ending, ultimately, I would have liked to have seen an episode or two of Tomoya's family living happily ever after, so to speak. You could say that After Story would benefit from its own After Story.
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2009-12-10, 13:46 | Link #278 | |
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I completely agree with you. This is something that I ranted about earlier, I wanted at least one more episode showing us the Okazaki family living their life together and maybe even a reunion with the rest of the cast while we're at it. Well, one can only dream
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2009-12-10, 14:00 | Link #279 |
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On paper, I don't think there's anything wrong with the ending.
The problem was that it was just a bit...well...weird. Who ever heard of a town giving miracles and having a concious? Huanted houses and towns, sure. They're possessed by ghosts and spirits. What was Tomoya's town possessed by? Happiness? A lot of people don't even take it into account when trying to understand the ending, even when the importance of the town is stressed over and over again in the series. Why? Because they just don't want to. Plus it's a bit odd that Tomoya must go and live his life with other girls in order to collect enough light orbs, just after he goes through character development in the form of wanting to have loved Nagisa no matter what. I think the ending would've been a lot better if we were shown that Tomoya was actively trying to get more light orbs and was fully aware of it, perhaps showing a bit of desperation as well. Then it would've felt a bit more earned.
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2009-12-10, 14:10 | Link #280 | |
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Well if the plot were changed to your alternative, this anime would feel like it's breaking the 4th wall. In a sense, it would take away the definition of a real miracle. I believe that if you felt weird about it, the anime did it's job Miracles are not something that we would call real or if they even exist (arguable considering sometimes things do happen in real life that one cannot explain,) so it's understandable if you get that type of feeling from it. I admit that even I wasn't sure what was going on the first time watching the ending, but as it went on I began to understand little by little while letting it sink in, it felt right. At least to me.
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