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View Poll Results: AnoHana - Episode 6 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 25 | 31.65% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 26 | 32.91% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 18 | 22.78% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 12.66% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-05-22, 14:41 | Link #161 | |||
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Well, maybe not... but Tsuruko has the power. She can choose to exercise it, and the pleasure derived from watching the magnificent bastard Yukiatsu suffer would already be enough justification. As seen in episode 6, everyone was eager to talk about Anaru and her visit to a love hotel. Everyone but Jinta, anyway. Quote:
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2011-05-22, 14:48 | Link #162 | |||
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2011-05-22, 17:17 | Link #163 | |
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2011-05-22, 17:27 | Link #164 | |
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Either way, it's horrible for her that one stupid mistake that she got rescued from turned her into a sl*t in the eyes of almost everyone in school. |
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2011-05-22, 18:56 | Link #165 | |
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How do you think this ties things together? I don't understand how this would be a good decision from a thematic point of view. It could fit in plot-wise. Jintan could be diagnosed with cancer, and there would be a way to fit it in the plot. I don't think either of those fit into the story though, for similar reasons. I don't know. I personally thought that melodrama was drama created for the sake of drama, regardless of whether or not it's a serious issue or whether or not it happens in real life. That being said, melodramatic or not, there are plenty of serious, real-life issues that I think wouldn't fit into this story. Basically, I just think that, as an important revelation, it does nothing to further the relationship between the group and does nothing to expand on Menma's wish [in fact, it makes it much more complicated and starts bringing in outside elements], which are the two biggest issues in this anime and what everything has been revolving around. Sorry if I'm rambling. I tend to do that. |
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2011-05-22, 19:14 | Link #166 |
Blooming on the mountain
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....
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Seems to me that a large percentage to my speculation has come from the angle of it adding too much extra drama/etc. to the story than there already is. (Which in many ways is bound up with personal taste, which is, of course, fine.)
OceanBlue has correctly identified the speculation as primarily plot related, which it is. It is also true that Jintan's being diagnosed with cancer and the like could be made to fit in the story as a plot device. But I think it would be a lot harder to go back through the previous 6 episodes and show it as consistent as the possibility. And to my mind the possibility of abuse in Menma's home (whether directly at her or between other family members) seems to me a very reasonable possibility that also holds water looking back through the other 6 episodes. I am in no way trying to persuade people to "like it" if the story does indeed go that way - I was just surprised to suddenly notice a very detailed possible pattern throughout the eps that was catalysted by some things I watched in ep 6. Personal taste wise I would not mind if the story included such elements, because I have faith that the writers would be able to pull it off and do a good job - although it seems many feel either they would not be able to or are not even interested to see them try to pull it off. (Was TM8 that big of a disaster and disappointment?) Well - all of these speculations are limited to the first half of the season, and I would never have been able to guess it before seeing ep 6. Maybe the latter half will show us even more unexpected surprises, like Madoka consistently pulled off?
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2011-05-22, 20:21 | Link #167 |
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I still don't see where it possibly hinted of physical abuse...
Seems to me that there is some form of personal wish-fulfillment involved, which I alluded from your last line. No, I don't need to see it become like Madoka, and frankly, the situations aren't comparable. For one thing, it was pretty obvious from the start that Kyubei didn't have a caring attitude (those eyes gave it away) and secondly, it's Shaft. That's their thing. |
2011-05-22, 20:42 | Link #168 | |
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Wish-fulfillment? Maybe. At the moment it is simply a possible way to interpret things up to now and point to possibilities ahead that seemed to me (and a few others) as a fairly plausible explanation and direction the series might go. In that light (as with any theory) the data can of course be used to "explain away" all sorts of things. And sometimes it seems to "work" because it is "wish fulfillment". But there are rare occasions it works because it either is the correct solution or hits near to the correct explanation. But I don't think either I or others who thought the speculation might be hitting near the mark are so attached to it that we are trying to force others to somehow accept it. Again, apologies if it came across like that. It was merely intended to throw some ideas out there. As regards Madoka - I was not comparing the two stories nor saying that it "needed to become like that"; I was simply using Madoka as an example of a story plot uncovering itself bit by bit in a way that often took the viewers by surprise, and saying that that principle of taking viewers by surprise could come into play in this series. That was all. Anyway - more will become clearer with the next ep, I am sure.
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2011-05-23, 00:13 | Link #171 | |
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2011-05-23, 01:08 | Link #172 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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A bit late... was a bit busy this weekend, being a long weekend and all for my country, not to mention getting ready for a convention this coming week. Anyways...
Unlike most people, my attention was focused on Tsuruko. Girl A: Minako wanted you to give this to Matsuyuki-kun. Tsuruko: You're in the same class. Give it to him yourself. (Translation: Go fark yourselves) Minako: You're so stuck-up! Do you look down on us because you always get to be by his side? Tsuruko: Huh? (Translation: What does being by his side do any good, when all these years he still has not LOOKED at me!?) Minako: We know! Tsurumi-san you have a crush on Matsuyuki-kun, right?! Tsuruko: What are you--? (Translation: --saying? Don't go comparing what I feel to YOUR pathetic little crush, girl.) I mean, Anaru is too straightforward that its no fun. Tsuruko on the other hand, since most of everything is unsaid, can't resist putting words on her mouth... Odd that. Anaru is easy to read because she isn't honest to her feelings, yet Tsuruko being the one who openly shows how she feels is the one hard to figure out what she's thinking. In any case, glad Tsuruko turned the other girl down. Too many times the childhood friend has been used as the messenger, mainly because childhood friend is too nice for her own good and just can't say no. Sometimes, you just got to be selfish, no? Yukiatsu on the otherhand, well, he certainly knows the perfect time to 'save' Tsuruko from her 'rivals, and knows exactly what to say to bring a smile to her face. Almost died from squeeing when he said that he can't fool her no matter what he does, and the satisfied look at Tsuruko's face right after. Plus points for him, though still don't compare to what Jintan did this episode. That's one thing Yukiatsu don't have Jintan beat lol.
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2011-05-23, 04:31 | Link #173 |
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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This episode was an exact reason why I love this animation so much. There is not a single incidents or situations that is wasted for nothing. Anjou's love hotel scene is acting as one of the significant plot point especially in this episode. I really liked this subtle complexity in plot.
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2011-05-23, 17:18 | Link #174 | |
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But, seriously, I actually can't see "the love" coming from Tsuruko towards Yukiatsu, and as you said, that is why her character is more interesting than any other in this series. |
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2011-05-24, 00:40 | Link #176 |
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Well, there must be something unknown going on to explain what Menma wants from the group, and wanted in the past. It is possible to get too dramatic, but it is also possible to have so little drama that things are trite and pointless. Yukiatsu's cross-dressing and Anaru's current situation both show me that the writers are willing to push things pretty far, so cranking up the drama regarding Menma's family life seems possible to me. And it wouldn't seem any more tangential than either of those things, to me.
As for Anaru, I'm continuing to think of her "gal" friends as not very nice people, until I see it proven otherwise. It does seem to me that they are the most likely way the rumors could get to the students. I'm imagining they probably just thought she was careless in being caught. We shall see.
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2011-05-24, 05:51 | Link #177 | |
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2011-05-24, 09:14 | Link #178 |
a random Indonesian otaku
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Xanadu
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That's it Jintan!!!!! You have done very well.... even though you never attending school to the end.... lol.... this time only attending until the first period.... XD
awww... Jintan and Anaru obviously will make a good couple... and finally I can see a flag about how Anaru will end her friendship with those two bad girls.... Anaru got little tsun-tsun in this episode and the last scene wrapped it all... ^^ I am glad that I don't get any mindbreak in this episode.... and Menma's wish is getting clearer I love all of the main character... they are unique and developed very well in every episodes |
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