Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[kaito-kid]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

On why Tieria disguised as a girl...

Spoiler for Explanation:

Supposedly, Sumeragi came up with the plan. Since people expect Gundam Meisters to be male, being a female further throws people's suspicions off track.

I think I have a better explanation...

Spoiler for Better explanation:

fan-service! fan-service! fan-service!

Although i am not sure which fans they were trying to serve...Because i just felt disgust.

[Seibee]

The whole dancing scene was surreal, like it was from a different show somehow. It was fun though.

[Goodie]

Originally Posted by kaito-kid

I think I have a better explanation...

Spoiler for Better explanation:

fan-service! fan-service! fan-service!

Although i am not sure which fans they were trying to serve...Because i just felt disgust.

Some twisted ones I'm sure... I mean there has been cross over images of Tierra since day one... now its just official.

-Goodie

[Halibel-sama]

That was some delicious Tieria fanservice.

[Narona]

What an episode... Rising, .... so the girl who looks like Tieria was indeed Tieria. So weird, meh

Ali's arche gundam looks cool XD.

Andrei was looking at Louise's dress XD. The guy really has a crush.

I remember people saying to me that there was no pilot in the 0-Riser, but it seems that they were wrong ^o^. Who will be the pilot? Personally, I hope it will be Saji ^o^


And finally......................... PATRICK!!!!

He is the same as always. He made Katy smile, good boy =p KathyXPatrick has to happen

[LightningZERO]

How did Tieria sound like? Hiroshi Kamiya (his VA) trying to force a female voice like the drama cd?

[Seibee]

Originally Posted by LightningZERO

How did Tieria sound like? Hiroshi Kamiya (his VA) trying to force a female voice like the drama cd?

Frighteningly convincing. If you didn't know he was actually male, you'd definitely be fooled by it.

[hatenshu]

Originally Posted by Tkpenalty

How about an AMBAC-like flight mode? Cause it surely looks like that.

Man the suit reminds me of Aegis Gundam. Ali's probably a super soldier as well now.

beam sabre in his foot,what a monster!

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by kaito-kid

Although i am not sure which fans they were trying to serve...Because i just felt disgust.

Me.

Originally Posted by Seibee

Frighteningly convincing. If you didn't know he was actually male, you'd definitely be fooled by it.

As i've mentioned a few times, Kamiya Hiroshi can do one hell of a calm, relaxing voice, so it's no shock that he can pull of a female one.

[KiNA]

Originally Posted by Narona

What an episode... Rising, .... so the girl who looks like Tieria was indeed Tieria. So weird, meh

Ali's arche gundam looks cool XD.

Andrei was looking at Louise's dress XD. The guy really has a crush.

I remember people saying to me that there was no pilot in the 0-Riser, but it seems that they were wrong ^o^. Who will be the pilot? Personally, I hope it will be Saki ^o^


And finally......................... PATRICK!!!!

He is the same as always. He made Katy smile, good boy =p KathyXPatrick has to happen

See that bolded part? your damn huge patrick made me read that way first time around

[Ardi220288]

absolutely shocking episode. both sides claim that they're the right one (innovator and tieria). damn Tieria you're hot. I love all the character interaction in this episode. They played it so well that I didn't realize the episode is over.


PS: crazy Ali as always and wicked Arche gundam as it supposed to be

[sapphire-pyro]

Kamiya Hiroshi also did the female voice? I thought another seiyuu voiced the female part for girlie Tieria. Man, he's great. I salute to him!

[Tangerine]

Copy paste from Good Haro:

Spoiler for Ribbons-Tieria-Regene:

Alright, here's the first chunk I managed to get through. Working on the bit with Neil right after it (his dialogue is taking me a bit because it's all slangy and that shit's impossible to look up). This is the flashback to Regene on the beach:

Regene: "In order to guide humanity into a new stage, a great wave is necessary."
"That's right."
"A wave called 'change.'"
Tieria: "Tch! But even still! You've seen the A-Laws dirty tactics!" (paraphrasing because I'm not 100% sure what he said there, the last bit was kind of muffled by the distorted audio)
Regene: "Change and pain go hand in hand."
"That's how it was your you guys, wasn't it?"
"You've become a hinderance to Aeolia's plan."
"We were born for the sake of that plan."
"Our reason for existing is to carry out and accomplish that plan."
"Tieria Erde, guide humanity with us."
"As one of us Innovators."
"You don't have to answer now."
"We'll meet again."
"You and I are bound by fate after all."


Alright, I really tried but I can't understand what Neil says in response well enough to give a translation, but I can paraphrase:

Tieria: "Innovator... Things for the sake of executing the plan... If that's the case then the path I must follow is..."
Then Neil says something making the choice for himself and not whining, and then reminds him that Aeolia entrusted them with the Gundams afterall (he calls him "old man Aeolia" too, how cute...).

Next up is whatever scene I run into next from the list...

Spoiler:

Lyle: "Klaus and co. managed to get out alright somehow, I guess. But..."

Spoiler:

The bit with Wang and Regene:

Wang: "Is this alright?" (she's speaking very formally to him, btw)
Regene: "Yes, that'll be *plenty*."


Ribbons' first line of the episode:

"It is troublesome, Regene's willfullness. I did let him go off on his own though..."
Ribbons asking Tieria to dance (it's an obvious line but whatever)

Ribbons: "Excuse me. It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm Ribbons Almark. Could I borrow you for one song?"
Tieria: (thinking) "That man is..."

I wonder if he recognized Ribbons or not...


While dancing, first scene:

Ribbons: "I can't believe it. I never thought we'd meet with you in this sort of outfit."
Tieria: "It's well known that the Meisters are male. Our strategist came up with this." (not 100% on that second sentence, but regardless the point is this was all Sumeragi's idea)


Next dancing scene:

Tieira: "Were you the one who sent Regene Regetta?"
Ribbons: "Impossible. I had no hand in his little prank."
Tieria: "I heard about the execution of Aeolia's plan."
Ribbons: "You don't really believe him, do you?"
"If that's the case, I could return it to you right now."
"Veda access privileges."
(Tieria trips)
Tieria: "Access privileges? Are you saying you control them?"
Ribbons: "Hm?"

Just noticed Regene was watching from a window on the balcony after that (can't really see him that well).

After the dance:

Ribbons asks Tieria to come with him but the phrasing of his sentence is odd so I dunno what to do with it (I know what he means but what he says is literally something like "For a little bit, return to the place, won't you?")

In Ribbons' room:

Tieria: "When you say you have control of Veda, are you being serious?"
Ribbons: "You should remember."
Tieria: "It can't be."
"During the Throne incident, the Trial system's activation was..."
"And so you must have been the one who handed over the fake GN-Drives to the UN forces too... Why?"
Ribbons: "Celestial Being's destruction was part of the plan."
"Naturally, you were supposed to have been destroyed four years ago."
Tieria: "I remember Aeolia entrusting the Gundams to us. You(pl) must be wrong. That's right. I will follow the path I believe in. Even if you say it's stupid and reckless!"

More in a moment.


Ribbons: "Uhahahaha~ Your distorted thinking is due to a human's influence, right? You let that man too much into your heart. Lockon Stratos. You prioritized your silly little family's vengeance over carrying out the plan. Just like a stupid human."
Tieria: "You bastard!"

Hilling Care: "Hilling Care, an Innovator." (from what little dialogue there is to work off, Hilling is using a feminine speech style)

Then Tieria jumps out the window.

Regene's last line:

"The eradication of war, the first step in the 3-step plan Aeolia Shenberg devised, was modified. Was it Ribbons Almark's plan? Or Celestial Being's <something>"
Wang: "Regardless of which, the world will change."

And now I'll go back to the beginning and try to hammer out all the weird phrases that I really should know by now (shit like "quantum brainwaves") in Regene's first big chunk of dialogue.

[dee32]

If Louise is going to get Soma's custom Ahead would that make Louise a platoon leader now since up to now only platoon leaders pilot Aheads. So does that mean that she will get promoted. I thought it would have went to Andre or Patrick. Since both are probly better pilots than Louise. Is Louise even capable of piloting that custom Ahead at its current setting.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by dee32

If Louise is going to get Soma's custom Ahead would that make Louise a platoon leader now since up to now only platoon leaders pilot Aheads.

Not true, since Soma and Mr. Bushido aren't platoon leaders, and yet they pilot Aheads.

[Seibee]

Originally Posted by Tangerine

Copy paste from Good Haro:

Spoiler for Ribbons-Tieria-Regene:

Alright, here's the first chunk I managed to get through. Working on the bit with Neil right after it (his dialogue is taking me a bit because it's all slangy and that shit's impossible to look up). This is the flashback to Regene on the beach:

Regene: "In order to guide humanity into a new stage, a great wave is necessary."
"That's right."
"A wave called 'change.'"
Tieria: "Tch! But even still! You've seen the A-Laws dirty tactics!" (paraphrasing because I'm not 100% sure what he said there, the last bit was kind of muffled by the distorted audio)
Regene: "Change and pain go hand in hand."
"That's how it was your you guys, wasn't it?"
"You've become a hinderance to Aeolia's plan."
"We were born for the sake of that plan."
"Our reason for existing is to carry out and accomplish that plan."
"Tieria Erde, guide humanity with us."
"As one of us Innovators."
"You don't have to answer now."
"We'll meet again."
"You and I are bound by fate after all."


Alright, I really tried but I can't understand what Neil says in response well enough to give a translation, but I can paraphrase:

Tieria: "Innovator... Things for the sake of executing the plan... If that's the case then the path I must follow is..."
Then Neil says something making the choice for himself and not whining, and then reminds him that Aeolia entrusted them with the Gundams afterall (he calls him "old man Aeolia" too, how cute...).

Next up is whatever scene I run into next from the list...

Spoiler:

Lyle: "Klaus and co. managed to get out alright somehow, I guess. But..."

Spoiler:

The bit with Wang and Regene:

Wang: "Is this alright?" (she's speaking very formally to him, btw)
Regene: "Yes, that'll be *plenty*."


Ribbons' first line of the episode:

"It is troublesome, Regene's willfullness. I did let him go off on his own though..."
Ribbons asking Tieria to dance (it's an obvious line but whatever)

Ribbons: "Excuse me. It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm Ribbons Almark. Could I borrow you for one song?"
Tieria: (thinking) "That man is..."

I wonder if he recognized Ribbons or not...


While dancing, first scene:

Ribbons: "I can't believe it. I never thought we'd meet with you in this sort of outfit."
Tieria: "It's well known that the Meisters are male. Our strategist came up with this." (not 100% on that second sentence, but regardless the point is this was all Sumeragi's idea)


Next dancing scene:

Tieira: "Were you the one who sent Regene Regetta?"
Ribbons: "Impossible. I had no hand in his little prank."
Tieria: "I heard about the execution of Aeolia's plan."
Ribbons: "You don't really believe him, do you?"
"If that's the case, I could return it to you right now."
"Veda access privileges."
(Tieria trips)
Tieria: "Access privileges? Are you saying you control them?"
Ribbons: "Hm?"

Just noticed Regene was watching from a window on the balcony after that (can't really see him that well).

After the dance:

Ribbons asks Tieria to come with him but the phrasing of his sentence is odd so I dunno what to do with it (I know what he means but what he says is literally something like "For a little bit, return to the place, won't you?")

In Ribbons' room:

Tieria: "When you say you have control of Veda, are you being serious?"
Ribbons: "You should remember."
Tieria: "It can't be."
"During the Throne incident, the Trial system's activation was..."
"And so you must have been the one who handed over the fake GN-Drives to the UN forces too... Why?"
Ribbons: "Celestial Being's destruction was part of the plan."
"Naturally, you were supposed to have been destroyed four years ago."
Tieria: "I remember Aeolia entrusting the Gundams to us. You(pl) must be wrong. That's right. I will follow the path I believe in. Even if you say it's stupid and reckless!"

More in a moment.


Ribbons: "Uhahahaha~ Your distorted thinking is due to a human's influence, right? You let that man too much into your heart. Lockon Stratos. You prioritized your silly little family's vengeance over carrying out the plan. Just like a stupid human."
Tieria: "You bastard!"

Hilling Care: "Hilling Care, an Innovator." (from what little dialogue there is to work off, Hilling is using a feminine speech style)

Then Tieria jumps out the window.

Regene's last line:

"The eradication of war, the first step in the 3-step plan Aeolia Shenberg devised, was modified. Was it Ribbons Almark's plan? Or Celestial Being's <something>"
Wang: "Regardless of which, the world will change."

And now I'll go back to the beginning and try to hammer out all the weird phrases that I really should know by now (shit like "quantum brainwaves") in Regene's first big chunk of dialogue.

Did they translate what Mileina and Feldt said to Marie?

[Narona]

Originally Posted by KiNA

See that bolded part? your damn huge patrick made me read that way first time around

Sooooorry !

Originally Posted by Tangerine

Copy paste from Good Haro:

Spoiler for Ribbons-Tieria-Regene:

Alright, here's the first chunk I managed to get through. Working on the bit with Neil right after it (his dialogue is taking me a bit because it's all slangy and that shit's impossible to look up). This is the flashback to Regene on the beach:

Regene: "In order to guide humanity into a new stage, a great wave is necessary."
"That's right."
"A wave called 'change.'"
Tieria: "Tch! But even still! You've seen the A-Laws dirty tactics!" (paraphrasing because I'm not 100% sure what he said there, the last bit was kind of muffled by the distorted audio)
Regene: "Change and pain go hand in hand."
"That's how it was your you guys, wasn't it?"
"You've become a hinderance to Aeolia's plan."
"We were born for the sake of that plan."
"Our reason for existing is to carry out and accomplish that plan."
"Tieria Erde, guide humanity with us."
"As one of us Innovators."
"You don't have to answer now."
"We'll meet again."
"You and I are bound by fate after all."


Alright, I really tried but I can't understand what Neil says in response well enough to give a translation, but I can paraphrase:

Tieria: "Innovator... Things for the sake of executing the plan... If that's the case then the path I must follow is..."
Then Neil says something making the choice for himself and not whining, and then reminds him that Aeolia entrusted them with the Gundams afterall (he calls him "old man Aeolia" too, how cute...).

Next up is whatever scene I run into next from the list...

Spoiler:

Lyle: "Klaus and co. managed to get out alright somehow, I guess. But..."

Spoiler:

The bit with Wang and Regene:

Wang: "Is this alright?" (she's speaking very formally to him, btw)
Regene: "Yes, that'll be *plenty*."


Ribbons' first line of the episode:

"It is troublesome, Regene's willfullness. I did let him go off on his own though..."
Ribbons asking Tieria to dance (it's an obvious line but whatever)

Ribbons: "Excuse me. It's a pleasure to meet you. I'm Ribbons Almark. Could I borrow you for one song?"
Tieria: (thinking) "That man is..."

I wonder if he recognized Ribbons or not...


While dancing, first scene:

Ribbons: "I can't believe it. I never thought we'd meet with you in this sort of outfit."
Tieria: "It's well known that the Meisters are male. Our strategist came up with this." (not 100% on that second sentence, but regardless the point is this was all Sumeragi's idea)


Next dancing scene:

Tieira: "Were you the one who sent Regene Regetta?"
Ribbons: "Impossible. I had no hand in his little prank."
Tieria: "I heard about the execution of Aeolia's plan."
Ribbons: "You don't really believe him, do you?"
"If that's the case, I could return it to you right now."
"Veda access privileges."
(Tieria trips)
Tieria: "Access privileges? Are you saying you control them?"
Ribbons: "Hm?"

Just noticed Regene was watching from a window on the balcony after that (can't really see him that well).

After the dance:

Ribbons asks Tieria to come with him but the phrasing of his sentence is odd so I dunno what to do with it (I know what he means but what he says is literally something like "For a little bit, return to the place, won't you?")

In Ribbons' room:

Tieria: "When you say you have control of Veda, are you being serious?"
Ribbons: "You should remember."
Tieria: "It can't be."
"During the Throne incident, the Trial system's activation was..."
"And so you must have been the one who handed over the fake GN-Drives to the UN forces too... Why?"
Ribbons: "Celestial Being's destruction was part of the plan."
"Naturally, you were supposed to have been destroyed four years ago."
Tieria: "I remember Aeolia entrusting the Gundams to us. You(pl) must be wrong. That's right. I will follow the path I believe in. Even if you say it's stupid and reckless!"

More in a moment.


Ribbons: "Uhahahaha~ Your distorted thinking is due to a human's influence, right? You let that man too much into your heart. Lockon Stratos. You prioritized your silly little family's vengeance over carrying out the plan. Just like a stupid human."
Tieria: "You bastard!"

Hilling Care: "Hilling Care, an Innovator." (from what little dialogue there is to work off, Hilling is using a feminine speech style)

Then Tieria jumps out the window.

Regene's last line:

"The eradication of war, the first step in the 3-step plan Aeolia Shenberg devised, was modified. Was it Ribbons Almark's plan? Or Celestial Being's <something>"
Wang: "Regardless of which, the world will change."

And now I'll go back to the beginning and try to hammer out all the weird phrases that I really should know by now (shit like "quantum brainwaves") in Regene's first big chunk of dialogue.

Very interesting. Thanks a lot ! So Tieria is an innovator. How did he end up as a Gundam Meister O_o?

[dee32]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Not true, since Soma and Mr. Bushido aren't platoon leaders, and yet they pilot Aheads.

Wasn't Andre part of Soma platoon? Mr. Bushido was a special case.

[NyxOne]

Well, the general descriptor for an officer is someone who is in a position of authority. For the most part of her time in the A-LAWS, we saw Soma following orders and not giving them.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by dee32

Wasn't Andre part of Soma platoon? Mr. Bushido was a special case. How bout this Aheads for officers and GN-XIIIs are for enlisted personnel.

Andrei wasn't under Soma's commmand, or you'd have seen him following Soma's orders. Soma herself was under the command of another commander in a basic Ahead.

Aheads it seems are handed out on basis of seniority. But Louise being a special benefactor for the A-Laws may explain why Lindt gave her the Smultron (aka Soma's Ahead) so easily.