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Old 2009-09-03, 03:25   Link #101
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He's an altruist in such cases , but still he's not as selfless as it can appear to us.
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Old 2009-09-03, 04:26   Link #102
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To me it really seems like Kyon seriously wants Haruhi to mellow out and treat other people better, wants Nagato to open up a bit more and acknowledge her emotions, and wants Asahina to develop more confidence and self-esteem like her older self (though he's still unnerved by Asahina (big), which complicates matters).
Yes, I'd agree with that. It makes a fair bit of sense in all three cases, as it would make all three more well-rounded people, it could be argued.
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Old 2009-09-03, 04:46   Link #103
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What about Itsuki? Doesn't he care about him at all??
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Old 2009-09-03, 05:31   Link #104
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Nope! Where have you been?
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Old 2009-09-03, 08:05   Link #105
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He wants Itsuki to get the hell out of his face.
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Old 2009-09-03, 08:35   Link #106
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Come on, deep inside Kyon wants to change him too, he just doesn't know how,yet he tries so much,but the result...there's no result.
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Old 2009-09-03, 10:13   Link #107
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What about Itsuki? Doesn't he care about him at all??
He probably wants Itsuki to drop his facade. That, and he'd probably like it if Itsuki stopped hitting on him. Of course, those two are pretty much one and the same unless you think that Itsuki is truly gay.
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Old 2009-09-03, 21:54   Link #108
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He probably wants Itsuki to drop his facade. That, and he'd probably like it if Itsuki stopped hitting on him. Of course, those two are pretty much one and the same unless you think that Itsuki is truly gay.
definately agree with that. but in the near future i would like to see kyon hit itsuki. i think he deserves it.
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Old 2009-09-04, 08:37   Link #109
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I'd love to see Kyon and Koizumi duke it out. Winner gets... wait, is there anything they'd actually fight over?
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Old 2009-09-04, 08:48   Link #110
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I'd love to see Kyon and Koizumi duke it out. Winner gets... wait, is there anything they'd actually fight over?
Going by this subform, it's pretty obvious what (or rather, who) they'd fight over, don't you think?
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If you mean Haruhi, neither would initiate a fight over her... Kyon tries to maintain the whole "I can't stand Haruhi" thing, while Koizumi knows that any problems that arise around her inevitably mean problems for him later, as well.
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Old 2009-09-04, 08:59   Link #112
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If you mean Haruhi, neither would initiate a fight over her... Kyon tries to maintain the whole "I can't stand Haruhi" thing, while Koizumi knows that any problems that arise around her inevitably mean problems for him later, as well.
Well, I'm just saying that if, say, a powerful entity (let's use Q from Star Trek here) was to set-up a fight between the two of them, and was to tell each of them "Winner of this fight gets a happy Haruhi as his life partner for the rest of his life!", I could see them seriously fighting for that.
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... "Happy Haruhi" generally means trouble for anyone around her.

Except Tsuruya, she seems to be immune to her antics.
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Old 2009-09-04, 11:58   Link #114
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Sometimes he's too soft-hearted towards Haruhi,but bound being the guardian of the balance he has to restrain himself.
I'd like more tense moments like the recent one in the Sighs.
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Well, I'm just saying that if, say, a powerful entity (let's use Q from Star Trek here) was to set-up a fight between the two of them, and was to tell each of them "Winner of this fight gets a happy Haruhi as his life partner for the rest of his life!", I could see them seriously fighting for that.
Eh, I suppose we could see Itsuki and Kyon fight if Haruhi decided the S.O.S brigade need to enter a martial arts tournament. Then Kyon could feel much shame after getting beat up by him. I could defintily see Itsuki knowing Judo moves and thrashing Kyon.
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Old 2009-09-06, 23:28   Link #116
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Eh, I suppose we could see Itsuki and Kyon fight if Haruhi decided the S.O.S brigade need to enter a martial arts tournament. Then Kyon could feel much shame after getting beat up by him. I could defintily see Itsuki knowing Judo moves and thrashing Kyon.
Have you forgotten that Haruhi wants to see Kyon do cool stuff? She really wants to be impressed by him. If Itsuki thrashed Kyon like that then Haruhi would probably be pretty upset. Itsuki would have to throw the fight.

Unless Haruhi feels like dressing up like a nurse. Then she might be okay with it.
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Itsuki would pwn Kyon, unless he did throw the fight (or if Kyon cheated somehow). We all saw how Itsuki held Kyon's arm during the last episode. He's considerably stronger than Kyon, and he probably has some level of combat training, too. Either way, a fight between them seems unlikely.

Besides, Haruhi doesn't need Kyon to be a badass. She need him as a man-slave.
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Old 2009-09-08, 08:00   Link #118
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She doesn't need Kyon to be a badass, she wants him to be one. That way, his status as man-slave is much sweeter.
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Old 2009-09-08, 20:18   Link #119
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She doesn't need Kyon to be a badass, she wants him to be one. That way, his status as man-slave is much sweeter.
Heh, you know on second thought.... in the end it probably wouldn't matter whose really strongest... Yuki would give them all body controlling arm/ankle bands or something and they'd suddenly all become SUPER MARTIAL ARTS MASTERS <tm>. Kyon would win or lose based soley on whether Haruhi wanted to see him do something cool or nurse him back to health.
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Old 2009-09-08, 21:18   Link #120
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Kyon would win or lose based soley on whether Haruhi wanted to see him do something cool or nurse him back to health.
So in other words, he'd make it to the finals and then get clobbered. This way he comes off as amazing, and she be proud of how close he got, all while nursing him back and knowing that he isn't quite the best.

Using the thinking back from Dragonball, "If they think there's someone stronger out there, they'll continue to push themselves" or something like that. That's right, I just compared Kyon to Goku.
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