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No. The charm of Strike Witches is that everything is based on real-life military vehicles, something the VF-25 is not.
In terms of looks, the closest thing to it (at least in terms of fuselage design) is the Su-27 Flanker (look at their noses). In fact, the prototypes sported a nose gear position similar to the VF-25's. |
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And there's that option right there.
Couldn't General Electric got a brainwave slightly earlier? It doesn't take a Thomas Edison to see adapting gatlings to be smaller and carried by Witches and Wizards would help the war; after all, witches do fit into the chopper niche.
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And yes, Neuroi are probably the biggest enigma in the anime, considering how much they contrast the other sources. I wonder why their design was changes so much? I mean, its not just late-war development, the first episode shows that the initial Neuroi were already of the anime-type. Quote:
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More information is needed, but given that normal unprotected infantry can in some circumstances fight Neuroi it seems probable jets could do so as well. Quote:
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2008-10-06, 08:38 | Link #48 | |
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Also, the thing about spread of miasma. That is when we said SCREW THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT and, well, do our best. I know they might corrode metal and such, but then again, wear and tear is a normal situation faced by normal jet fighters (especially if they fly supersonic more than half of the time...). However, the main point is that we are talking about a group of people who knew what they are getting into, instead of charging blindly at the enemy like what typical grunts ala Gundam (before 00) does. |
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Thanks for clearing that up. It's best to know than simply trying to guess.
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You also haven't countered my point that it might simply not be a factor I mean how high up could this stuff possibly go? To outer space? And again there is the distance factor in WW2 a fighter would to close to within a few hundred feet to engage. A modern jet could be attacking from dozens of miles out. Quote:
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And expect mucha swirlz from Pte serial "008R" Erin As with the IRC, I'm wondering what a Kha-chan x Anita-kun might turn out as... Abusive relationship? >.>
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2008-10-06, 11:47 | Link #54 |
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I should point out, just before I sleep, that the original novel Super Sylph and Sylhid were based off the F-15 SMTD; model kits I've seen of the novel version Super Sylph show that it's very similar in design to the SMTD, but with the wings swept more back and stealthing added, and outward canted tail stabilisers.
As for the Tomcat machining tools being destroyed, that was CHeney's fault. Grumman tried to sell the Navy the Super Tomcat 21 that was an expensive uber-Tomcat. Cheney said "Oh no you don't, two can play at being asshats" and ordered all Tomcat machining equipment destroyed.
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And while it might not be instantaneously fatal, I doubt it's in anyone's best interest to fly into what is essentially poison gas. You might not die immediately, but I'll bet it'd at least incapacitate you to some degree. As for the cities, if you're talking about the anime, then they don't even show any Neuroi-occupied cities... of course it won't be covered in miasma. Ostmark was the first country to fall in the Neuroi invasion, and the entire country, or former country as stressed in the book, is described as a barren wasteland covered in the miasma. That's kind of a wide area of poison gas to cross. Even if it doesn't reach very high (and there's nothing saying it doesn't reach as high as their floating hives or higher, considering the hives spew it out as well), most of Book 2 talks about the liberation of one Neuroi-occupied city, where no amount of aerial bombing can put even the slightest dent in the Neuroi forces. They just make new ones by breaking the city down, faster than they can be destroyed, and in the end, it takes a large-scale joint air and ground operation assembled from all over Suomus to really clear the Neuroi out of just the one city. Moral of the story, so what if planes can go over it? That's not going to do anything to help you win the war.
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Once again, even though I specifically mention that the angry mob method doesn't work in Iraq, you take that part and blow it out of proportion. Crowds (note, crowd. Not angry mob) form, it happens in busy cities. Insurgents use these crowds for cover while they fire. These shots usually miss (after all, you try to aim at a vehicle in the distance with only a few seconds before everyone notices what you're holding and what you're planning with it) but regardless of hit or miss, the military does not have the option of simply firing back. Last edited by Keroko; 2008-10-06 at 16:27. |
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That was acutally meant to get Aaron swrilling on IRC mostly, worked quite well by the way hell it triggered a TK breaker!
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As for the entire mob thing it's getting OT and I want to try and keep this topic vaugely about stuff related to SWs so let's just drop it.
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Of course, as expected, the Neuroi would advance like what humans did, but they might advance to a point where they need to sacrifice firepower to attain the sort of speed and maneuverability comparable to that of a fighter jets (even if that means that they pack only a single laser and a couple of missiles). It is all about the trade-off to balance it out (well, more so, since Neuroi are SUPPOSEDLY based on the things they ate). Obviously, results from the Me-262 prompted development of Jet Strikers (although not all Striker equivalent of post-WWII aircraft would be developed, for example, the cost of developing the F-14 Tomcat is so great that their Striker equivalents was not given the green light, ceding development to the Striker version of the VFAX, which end up being the F/A-18 Hornet) plus newer generation of weaponry, but they would still prove to be buggy in the initial phases for example, problems associated with the M60 in the Vietnam War, waged on the Neurois who decided to concentrate on Asia, entering a hole those in Europe did not expect. On the air combat front, missiles did not perform as everyone hoped, bringing many-a-fatal end to the gunless birds. Also, the plans I have is to initially concentrate on a squadron of Witches, backed by a naval fighter squadron (no romance), operating off a Nimitz-class carrier (there are other squadrons on board the CVN, but I would focus on one). No, it wouldn't be eaten like Akagi, although its compatriots might. Fighting Neurois was one problem. They didn't know that there was an organization bent on letting the Neurois take over the entire Earth (that was where all the BS superplanes, flying fortresses, and the like might come in). Last edited by kct; 2008-10-06 at 19:56. |
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