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Sol Falling · 2011-03-13, 14:16

Holy crap guys, did noone else notice yet? The black cat showed up in Kazumi Magica! My mind is currently being blown.

Anyway yeah, it seems like Kazumi Magica does have a somewhat stronger connection to Madoka Magica than we thought it had. Soul Gems exist, and witches also apparently drop something; though if that is a Grief Seed isn't really known yet. The mysterious person creating witches/handing out power I spoke about last time seems to have been revealed, and is a Puella Magi...? Or maybe she's just another mysterious character? In any case, the idea that this world is somehow related to the Madoka Magica universe makes the flashbacks Kazumi had in the first chapter much more anomalous and notable--six witches and/or mahou shoujos standing around a hexagram, Kazumi recieving her bells (Soul Gems?) from an older adult figure...

It'll probably be a while before we see the answers to these mysteries. Chapter 2 made me feel less Kazumi moe than the first one, but this manga is still pretty awesome.

FatPianoBoy · 2011-03-13, 14:58

Wow, this mangaka has no idea how to frame action scenes. Still, the story is interesting, especially since the differences in witches and grief seeds are probably not just stylistic changes. I was pretty indifferent about the first chapter, but the second one is quite a bit better.

Myssa Rei · 2011-03-13, 16:39

I'm really curious if the manga-ka is working off the script that Gen wrote, or is just HOPING that it connects somehow with the anime (assuming the TV series ends on a bittersweet note).

FatPianoBoy · 2011-03-13, 18:12

It's a spin-off, so really he only needs to understand the fundamentals of the universe he's writing in. It doesn't have to connect to the characters of the anime at all as long as the rules for the creation of magical girls and their eventual fates remain consistent. My money is on these girls being the witches from the first half of the series, though.

Dark Wing · 2011-03-13, 22:28

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Originally Posted by FatPianoBoy

My money is on these girls being the witches from the first half of the series, though.

I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?

novalysis · 2011-03-14, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?

I disagree . The Puella Magi system seems to be significantly different from that of Madoka Magica. However, I do have a pet theory that Kazumi is a former Witch who was somehow turned back into a Magical Girl , and that this series is set Post-Madoka . Which means that we might be looking at the aftermath of Madoka's rewrite of reality . I suspect if Madoka was to make a contract in the time-loop Madoka Magica's set in , it would strongly revolve around rewriting the system as much as she can.

Miraluka · 2011-03-15, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?

I disagree.

Why nobody seems to be suspecting of this girl?

Proto · 2011-03-15, 16:31

That's the teacher

Seihai · 2011-03-15, 16:32

Oh my goodness, it's German subs! lol

NaweG · 2011-03-15, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Proto

That's the teacher

Who is unmarried, and therefore still "eligible" even if a bit old. Of course since witches were originally called "old crones"...

In any case, I have to agree that this spin off seems to be more "Post Madoka" than prequel. So I suspect that we'll have to hope to get the Walpurgis answers elsewhere.

Hagoshod · 2011-03-18, 19:32

Yes, let's turn the Junko Iwao character into a Magical Girl.

And then her Witch form can be Ophelia from Romeo x Juliet

Triple_R · 2011-03-18, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Sol Falling

Holy crap guys, did noone else notice yet? The black cat showed up in Kazumi Magica! My mind is currently being blown.

What exactly did the black cat do?

FatPianoBoy · 2011-03-18, 21:04

It walked around the house.

Sol Falling · 2011-03-18, 23:02

lol, indeed. It also seemingly disappeared off the top of Kazumi's head after she asked Umika what was for breakfast.

I am thus tentatively taking the black cat's role in both Kazumi and Madoka to simply be a red herring/mascot character, with no major plot impact. Yeah, even the revelation of that possibility was enough to blow my mind :P.

Kanon · 2011-03-24, 03:59

Spoiler:

Dark Wing · 2011-03-24, 09:42

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Spoiler:

I would appear that things just got a bit more interesting...

Snork · 2011-03-24, 10:17

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I'm betting Kazumi turns out to be Walpurgis Night whose with me?

No proof so far, but this has occured to me, too. (then, for good measure, let's make Oriko turn into Charlotte, shall we?)

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However, I do have a pet theory that Kazumi is a former Witch who was somehow turned back into a Magical Girl , and that this series is set Post-Madoka . Which means that we might be looking at the aftermath of Madoka's rewrite of reality .

sounds interesting, too.

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Why nobody seems to be suspecting of this girl?

um, no, my brain isn't quite working towards her. For all I know, Hitomi might be a more probable candidate in that aspect. Although considering the teacher's private life, I'm afraid she'd jump at the call the moment Kyuubey mentions wish-granting.

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And then her Witch form can be Ophelia from Romeo x Juliet

anooooooo...

Dark Wing · 2011-04-21, 16:11

With the way the anime series has ended we now know why things are so different here in the Kazumi Magica Manga.

So witches aren't the same kind of witches we're used too.

Myssa Rei · 2011-04-22, 00:15

We still have some problems placing where Kazumi Magica in the greater Madoka Magica universe. Why? We still have old-school witches running around with the post-wish grief-generated monsters, that's why.

Snork · 2011-04-22, 10:21

^ plus they are hinted to be more common. And complete with grief seeds. So far, nobody mentioned "Grief demons" or such.

2011-03-13, 16:39	Link #23
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	I'm really curious if the manga-ka is working off the script that Gen wrote, or is just HOPING that it connects somehow with the anime (assuming the TV series ends on a bittersweet note). __________________

2011-03-15, 16:31	Link #28
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	That's the teacher __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux

2011-03-15, 16:32	Link #29
Seihai スマイリウム Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Iwakawa Base Age: 31	Oh my goodness, it's German subs! lol __________________

2011-03-24, 03:59	Link #35
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Spoiler: Good Kyubey, you look kinda cool. I'm not reading this manga, but I guess he was disguised as that black cat Sol Falling was talking about earlier. __________________

2011-04-21, 16:11	Link #38
Dark Wing Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Age: 38	With the way the anime series has ended we now know why things are so different here in the Kazumi Magica Manga. So witches aren't the same kind of witches we're used too. __________________

2011-03-13, 14:16	Link #21
Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	Holy crap guys, did noone else notice yet? The black cat showed up in Kazumi Magica! My mind is currently being blown. Anyway yeah, it seems like Kazumi Magica does have a somewhat stronger connection to Madoka Magica than we thought it had. Soul Gems exist, and witches also apparently drop something; though if that is a Grief Seed isn't really known yet. The mysterious person creating witches/handing out power I spoke about last time seems to have been revealed, and is a Puella Magi...? Or maybe she's just another mysterious character? In any case, the idea that this world is somehow related to the Madoka Magica universe makes the flashbacks Kazumi had in the first chapter much more anomalous and notable--six witches and/or mahou shoujos standing around a hexagram, Kazumi recieving her bells (Soul Gems?) from an older adult figure... It'll probably be a while before we see the answers to these mysteries. Chapter 2 made me feel less Kazumi moe than the first one, but this manga is still pretty awesome.

2011-03-13, 14:58	Link #22
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	Wow, this mangaka has no idea how to frame action scenes. Still, the story is interesting, especially since the differences in witches and grief seeds are probably not just stylistic changes. I was pretty indifferent about the first chapter, but the second one is quite a bit better.

2011-03-13, 18:12	Link #24
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	It's a spin-off, so really he only needs to understand the fundamentals of the universe he's writing in. It doesn't have to connect to the characters of the anime at all as long as the rules for the creation of magical girls and their eventual fates remain consistent. My money is on these girls being the witches from the first half of the series, though.

2011-03-18, 19:32	Link #31
Hagoshod Banned Join Date: Feb 2011	Yes, let's turn the Junko Iwao character into a Magical Girl. And then her Witch form can be Ophelia from Romeo x Juliet

2011-03-18, 21:04	Link #33
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	It walked around the house.

2011-03-18, 23:02	Link #34
Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	lol, indeed. It also seemingly disappeared off the top of Kazumi's head after she asked Umika what was for breakfast. I am thus tentatively taking the black cat's role in both Kazumi and Madoka to simply be a red herring/mascot character, with no major plot impact. Yeah, even the revelation of that possibility was enough to blow my mind :P.

2011-04-22, 00:15	Link #39
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	We still have some problems placing where Kazumi Magica in the greater Madoka Magica universe. Why? We still have old-school witches running around with the post-wish grief-generated monsters, that's why. __________________

2011-04-22, 10:21	Link #40
Snork Twilight lander Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minsk, Belarus	^ plus they are hinted to be more common. And complete with grief seeds. So far, nobody mentioned "Grief demons" or such.