(L) Gantz Season 2 Discussion.

[Spooky-Electric]

Originally Posted by Secca

I still think dirty thoughts are bad!

Maybe you should be watching Tokyo Mew Mew or something and not Gantz then.

[Secca]

Originally Posted by Spooky-Electric

Maybe you should be watching Tokyo Mew Mew or something and not Gantz then.

I never seen Tokyo Mew Mew, and I have no idea why it has to do with Gantz. ^^

I think the Gantz concept itself is great but it doesn't make Kurono character any less likeable, now that I see he's just really weird and perverted, which is his character flaw.

[stpehen]

I watched the first episode of Season Two with extremely low expectations after the first season, and I was still disappointed. The alterations and extra material that they are adding to the story are just so ridiculous and over-dramaticized. I enjoy the manga but I don't know if I can continue watching the anime because at this rate it's going to turn me off the manga as well.

[Yebyosh]

The second stage got rid of one of my big issues with the first stage, namely the censorship.

However with regards to another issue, that of the sudden change in character of the punk boss (he became suddenly all nice guy at end of first stage), I will say that for the second stage,

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it was resolved terribly. What is the whole point of them deviating from the manga's plot for this fella if they suddenly swing towards resolving it by chiefly following the manga?! So he was an arsehole then suddenly in the middle of nowhere, for no reason, he became Mr Noble Honour. Then once he come back, he became Mr A-hole again?!

And they didn't even adapt his ending properly. Having someone's head explode in front of everyone that is not involved in the whole scheme is going to raise even more suspicion than usual. Is that the way to keep things secret? Yes, the phone call coming in just to tell him the milk's flowing is also over-dramatic...

FYI, the manga just had him having a huge haemorrhage in the brain with the blood flowing out of the orifices, courtesy of the implanted bomb. It did not however had his head exploding in pieces. There are cases of people having sudden brain haemorrhages but no cases of people having their heads suddenly exploding in front of everybody.

All in all, hopefully that was just a hiccup. I'm more curious on how they are going to resolve what the heck Gantz is, considering that the mangaka has not even given a whit of conclusive information on what Gantz is for 171 chapters

There is something which may likely be a hint to that, here in the first episode.

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The blond shaggy guy sitting on the slope appearing twice for no reason.

But it is too vague to get any conclusive ideas for what the end would be.

It is certain however that

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Kato and Kei would die as per the Ashura alien encounter in the manga, if the Ending Theme can be believed.

[Silent Otaku]

Originally Posted by Yebyosh

But it is too vague to get any conclusive ideas for what the end would be.

It is certain however that

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Kato and Kei would die as per the Ashura alien encounter in the manga, if the Ending Theme can be believed.

I found that to be an freaky omen. One suggestion to all those who have not read the manga. Do not get attached to any character.

[Secca]

Originally Posted by Yebyosh

All in all, hopefully that was just a hiccup. I'm more curious on how they are going to resolve what the heck Gantz is, considering that the mangaka has not even given a whit of conclusive information on what Gantz is for 171 chapters

There is something which may likely be a hint to that, here in the first episode.

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The blond shaggy guy sitting on the slope appearing twice for no reason.

But it is too vague to get any conclusive ideas for what the end would be.

aaa yes, I tought that was strange too,

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I swear I think he was watching the guy who was using Gantz gun under the bridge. I rewatch it and match him with the people on the preview inside Gantz apartment. And the blond guy is not there. He could have something to do with Gantz, like the old woman who keep following Kurono in the first stage.

btw is Sakuraoka, the Lara Croft everyone been talking about?

[ShikaShika]

Originally Posted by stpehen

I watched the first episode of Season Two with extremely low expectations after the first season, and I was still disappointed. The alterations and extra material that they are adding to the story are just so ridiculous and over-dramaticized. I enjoy the manga but I don't know if I can continue watching the anime because at this rate it's going to turn me off the manga as well.

Yes, I have to agree. Why is it so hard to stay faithful to the manga? They should only change things if they can improve them, but they never can and they never learn. Manga is basically a storyboard for making anime from the beginning, there is no reason what so ever to 'adapt' it, by adding senseless scenes. When you have seasons like Gantz, there's even no reason to add filler.

Also, most of the character designs (especially haircolors) are way wrong. And I can't believe how a manga with very attractive women becomes an anime with ugly to so-so looking women. I hate to come off as a "manga elitist" the same way I hated them myself before I started reading them, but the anime is just inferior in every way, and it doesn't look very likely to change. At least I caught an interest for the manga through the anime.

[a_nevels666]

Originally Posted by Yebyosh

The second stage got rid of one of my big issues with the first stage, namely the censorship.

No it didn't, it's gorier than the cut version of the first season, but still toned down compared to the manga.

btw is Sakuraoka, the Lara Croft everyone been talking about?

Not sure about her name, but she was the black-haired girl in episode 14.
Of course she barely looks like Lara Croft anymore in the anime...

[Secca]

Anyone think for some reason that magazine store is kinda coincidence? Wasn't some of the people from the previous mission was there too in that store? ^^

[Yebyosh]

Originally Posted by a_nevels666

No it didn't, it's gorier than the cut version of the first season, but still toned down compared to the manga.

I don't really care much about the goriness for the anime. It is the breakdown in fluidity of the story telling that the censorship heavily caused. With Gantz 2nd Stage out of FujiTV's hands and on satellite channel, we would not get those obvious gaps in the story and evaluate the anime more fairly.

Originally Posted by Secca

btw is Sakuraoka, the Lara Croft everyone been talking about?

Originally Posted by a_nevels666

Not sure about her name, but she was the black-haired girl in episode 14.
Of course she barely looks like Lara Croft anymore in the anime...

The Lara Croft-lookalike was never named in the manga because she was supposed to be Lara Croft (saying her name would likely bring copyright issues from Eidos). Just like the Sadako following the so-called gay. Those two were meant to be spoofs for a 'wow' and 'cool' factor which was great in the manga (Lara from you know... Lara Croft and Sadako from the Ring).

By turning Lara into a 'real Japanese human' however, those attracting factors are now eliminated, making her just one of the normal humans.

[a_nevels666]

Originally Posted by Yebyosh

I don't really care much about the goriness for the anime. It is the breakdown in fluidity of the story telling that the censorship heavily caused. With Gantz 2nd Stage out of FujiTV's hands and on satellite channel, we would not get those obvious gaps in the story and evaluate the anime more fairly.

While I sort of agree with that, but I still think toning down the sex/violence is annoying and makes this anime less interesting since those things added a lot to the 'Wow, that's pretty f[or]ked up right there!' factor.

And the first season is available uncut anyway, just a little later.

[Silent Otaku]

Originally Posted by a_nevels666

No it didn't, it's gorier than the cut version of the first season, but still toned down compared to the manga.



Not sure about her name, but she was the black-haired girl in episode 14.
Of course she barely looks like Lara Croft anymore in the anime...

She hardly has any resemblence to her at all in the anime. I guess it was to avoid any conflicts that may arise later due to it.

[a_nevels666]

Originally Posted by Silent Otaku

She hardly has any resemblence to her at all in the anime. I guess it was to avoid any conflicts that may arise later due to it.

I don't see why it neccesary to change her looks. I've seen cameos of Lara Croft in a lot of other comics/games. Maybe they just can't draw her very well. At least in the next episode she'll be in her Lara-outfit...(check the preview for ep.15)

[Silent Otaku]

Originally Posted by a_nevels666

I don't see why it neccesary to change her looks. I've seen cameos of Lara Croft in a lot of other comics/games. Maybe they just can't draw her very well. At least in the next episode she'll be in her Lara-outfit...(check the preview for ep.15)

Yes but I doubt she was involved in any adult situations in those cameos.

[Yebyosh]

Originally Posted by Silent Otaku

Yes but I doubt she was involved in any adult situations in those cameos.

Then it's obvious you've not seen any of those fan comics (Western and Asian) involving Miss Croft

[dreamless]

well, I actually somewhat liked the first episode of season 2... it's more dramatized for sure, especially in making that rider guy much more heroic... but then the anime series makes Kurono more heroic too

The Lara Croft-lookalike was never named in the manga because she was supposed to be Lara Croft (saying her name would likely bring copyright issues from Eidos). Just like the Sadako following the so-called gay. Those two were meant to be spoofs for a 'wow' and 'cool' factor which was great in the manga (Lara from you know... Lara Croft and Sadako from the Ring).

By turning Lara into a 'real Japanese human' however, those attracting factors are now eliminated, making her just one of the normal humans.

well, I always thought that girl was just a Lara Croft cosplayer, and that Sadako... well, a female stalker...

I can't wait to see them fighting buddhas, that fight is still the coolest in the manga imo. Season two seems to include the fights against buddhas and pro-wrestlers, wondering if they'll make a season 3 and maybe 4 (I think even the currently available manga material should be enough for at least 4 seasons)

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Hmm... another nude scene in classroom added, guess someone in GONZO just love this stuff Seeing the students in the classroom somehow makes me wonder if they'll survive this season...

[a_nevels666]

Originally Posted by dreamless

well, I actually somewhat liked the first episode of season 2... it's more dramatized for sure, especially in making that rider guy much more heroic... but then the anime series makes Kurono more heroic too



well, I always thought that girl was just a Lara Croft cosplayer, and that Sadako... well, a female stalker...

I can't wait to see them fighting buddhas, that fight is still the coolest in the manga imo. Season two seems to include the fights against buddhas and pro-wrestlers, wondering if they'll make a season 3 and maybe 4 (I think even the currently available manga material should be enough for at least 4 seasons)

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Hmm... another nude scene in classroom added, guess someone in GONZO just love this stuff Seeing the students in the classroom somehow makes me wonder if they'll survive this season...

What pro-wrestlers? I don't remember any pro-wrestlers.

And the classroom scene is there to replace an even more ecchi scene in the manga...

[dreamless]

I thought those aliens after the buddhas act like pro-wrestlers... or are they kungfu actors?

I guess GONZO just like nude scenes in classroom

[a_nevels666]

Originally Posted by dreamless

I thought those aliens after the buddhas act like pro-wrestlers... or are they kungfu actors?

I guess GONZO just like nude scenes in classroom

Oh wait, you mean those buff shorty-aliens that looked like Freeza (from DBZ) at 100% power. Those aliens never looked like pro-wrestlers or kungfu actors to me at all. I'm not sure if this season will even cover that arc, I'll have to check how many chapters these story arcs are...

EDIT: I checked and if they keep up a high pace they'll probably be able to include that arc. Which is nice, because I liked that one.

[Silent Otaku]

If it follows the manga faithfully, I could see this going for another 2- 14 ep season. If this season only last 14 episodes I don't think it will reach the

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Dinosaur Alien Arc or the new Ring Alien Arc

I think the saddest part of this season is going to be when Kei loses his 1st

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girlfriend, Gawd was she hawt. Reika & Tae were cute but she has to be the best he had. As for what happen to Kouta and Kishimoto, I never really cared for thier character, so I was glad they left the series