2013-03-18, 02:52 | Link #741 |
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As Eita's legal guardian, I think she has the right to do that to some extent. There's nothing wrong with just voicing your opinions or concerns to a family member. And after all, the final decision still lies with Eita, the aunt said so herself.
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2013-03-18, 02:55 | Link #742 | |
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- that was something they should have discussed in private, not in front of his harem. - after one glance? She had no basis for it. Conclusion: she did it for shits and giggles. Like he's not emotionally scarred enough. |
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2013-03-18, 03:13 | Link #743 | |
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And she did talk to Eita alone after that, and god, Eita's rabu rabu act was painful, all the more reasons for her to firmly stand for her opinion. As far as I can see, she didn't press any issue on Eita or question him. She basically was just sharing her own view and told Eita to get his pants together and stuff. I see no harm in that. But well, if that's how you see it, fair enough.
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2013-03-18, 04:52 | Link #744 |
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I think you meant Frank anyway, I'm getting some weird yaoi vibes from Kaoru. Leaning to another man's shoulder is... doubtful, no guy in the right mind would do that to another guy (except as a joke or something) I hope Kaoru is a reverse trap, else... wtf this show
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2013-03-18, 06:01 | Link #745 |
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I get your intention, but wrong analogy, or more precisely, it's not so wrong in reverse. Having an understanding in human nature/psychology does help in designing a satisfactory game, and having some knowledge of botany or anatomy or anything of the object you draw may help you get better at painting.
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2013-03-18, 11:44 | Link #746 |
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Saeko was breaking the fourth wall right there, Ai remains the best girl individually but I'm still leaning slightly towards Chiwa when it comes to the relationship, Eita treats Ai too indifferently for her sheer dereness . Although the Himeko texting scene was both nice and funny. And Eita proves to be slightly smarter than the average harem MC I think he is partially aware they all like him.
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2013-03-18, 12:41 | Link #747 | |
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Therefore, Saeko must have spent a lot of time looking at real humans do the lovey-dovey stuff classifying their behavior, supposedly female brains are better at that stuff since for them love is an analogical value (not a binary value like it registers on our male brains). |
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2013-03-18, 13:12 | Link #748 | |
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2013-03-18, 13:29 | Link #750 | |
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As for the relationship, it's pretty obvious that Eita "retreats to his shell" emotionally by shunning everything that has to do with romance; so it gets the feeling that Saeko is trying to force him into something for the chance of changing his basic attitude for the better. And well--- Also, by her word selection, it feels like she wants to pave a path on which he juggles between all 4 girls
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2013-03-18, 14:55 | Link #752 | |||||||
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It was inconsiderate and irresponsible. Frankness and honesty at best explain it, they don't excuse it. What would you think if some guy called you an ugly, stupid, <homophobic slur> <racial slur>, and added he was just calling it as he saw it?
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And ogon_bat? Screw your correction. A painter may know anatomy, but that doesn't make him a surgeon. Speaking of - would you trust Hugh Laurie to diagnose you? I mean, he played a doctor. Obviously he spent so much time observing them and absorbing their knowledge, right? And Dr House acts just like a real genius doctor would, too, or the series wouldn't have been successful, right? Entertaining, sure. Intelligent? It is, also, a work of fiction. Catering to people who like such games in the first place. Yet another escapist, wish fulfillment harem series. (That's not meant as an insult - I love those. I also don't take them for documentaries on human interactions.) Quote:
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2013-03-18, 15:42 | Link #753 | |
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Come back later when you're sober and we might have a decent discussion going. Or if barging in pointing shotgun at everyone in the room is your idea of discussion then please close the door to this saloon from the outside.
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But a writer (where you do galgames, manga or prose does not change the title) does learn a little from human behavior (it can be a mix of instinct, learning from interactions with your fellows and even reading some psychology books) to produce his manuscripts and Saeko's work is all about romantic relations. Are all galge writers as good at gauging your fellow romantic relation? probably not, but I have no trouble believing there can be some galge writer's as skilled as Saeko IRL. Quote:
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2013-03-18, 16:13 | Link #755 | |
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I won't bother replying to the rest because however you want to interpret, Saeko did get the fact right that they are on a fake realtionship and Masuzu's feelings for Eita are questionable. She didn't say anything like Masuzu didn't love Eita at all or they were in the wrong for faking the relationship. It was just her intuition of a woman. If your behaviours make her intuition raises questions, then obviously you also have to watch out. All the what-ifs you said are just something you simulate inside your head to back up your arguement and it has no value whatsoever in this context, sorry. I'm not going to argue with your own scenario. Whether she's irresponsible or inconsiderate, if your actions are obvious, someone is going to point it out eventually anyway, be it Saeko or someone else. You don't expect their little facade to last forever, do you?
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2013-03-18, 17:13 | Link #756 |
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What bothers me the most is how Saeko pulls it out her ass that their relationship is a fake just for the drama, and seems to miss that Masuzu has feelings for Eita. It'd have been a better reveal at the beach after having observed their relationship a bit.
"Your relationship is fake because you're too perfect" is laughable.
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2013-03-18, 17:44 | Link #757 | ||
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I know Masuzu has the "cool" card carrying out the entire series, but that can also be read as pretencious or goody two shoe very easily, even irl. I wouldn't be surprise if there're even rumors that Masuzu is taking advantage of Eita going around school, reallly. Quote:
And sure, she has feelings for Eita, but what kind of feeling? Would it be love, or even amidration like what Ai, Chiwa and Hime have, or just a sense of companionship and pride? I think whatever it is, Saeko was correct with her affection ranking. And even though Seako's remark is mainly aimed at Masuzu. Eita has his question share as well, does he love Masuzu, a relationship normally requires both ways, right? Eita dogded the question by lying to saeko, but how does he really feel? He indeed need to think about that, and tiem will answer.
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I haven't moved the goalposts. It remains about how Saeko's claim that producing fiction somehow makes you an expert on the subject matter. Especially fiction that doesn't even attempt to be realistic.
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- galgames don't even attempt to be realistic when it comes to human behavior; - it doesn't matter because galgames buyers aren't looking for realistic human behavior; - even if the previous two points were wrong, it still wouldn't mean that writing galgames, even being good at it, enables you to read the truth of a relationship at a single glance. It's even more ludicrous as a Sherlock Homes-expy guessing your life story from the way you chose to dress today. Quote:
All to illustrate the absurdity of Saeko's premise, which you share: that producing an imitation that convinces laymen (or that they at least find compelling enough to overlook its flaws) somehow means you're an expert at the real thing. Now, I know an actor doesn't have role analogue to that of a game developer. Maybe I should have looked up the name of a script writer. But it's a team effort. Feel free to pick any member of Dr House's production staff. Or all of them. Except maybe the medical consultants, if there were any. I read the medical errors were pretty glaring. Quote:
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2013-03-18, 19:20 | Link #759 |
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I'm fine with it, because Masuzu is lame, and Ai is the best.
And quite frankly, Masuzu's characterization this whole season is near non-existance. All we get is vague hints of 'okay, she does kind of really care about the relationship' but other than that, you get no info at all on her background or anything internal about her. Where the other 3 girls, we're getting the whole course.
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