120fps RAWs?

[Cruzz]

Originally Posted by JediNight

I don't know about too jerky, I think its more that they don't want to use an obscure buggy video container thats still in alpha or beta stages. Plus as was stated here too, its more work to make a vfr file as well I believe.

So they'd rather use an outdated container which wouldn't work at all without all sorts of ugly hacks and workarounds than a beta stage container which was designed for all these things? Oh and VFR files don't make videos jerky, decimation does.

Yes, it's more work to create a vfr file because the ever so lovable video for windows does not support variable framerate encoding. Still, it's possible. See here for one solution and here for another one. I'm still hoping that the xvid team would jump ship over to dshow so that there'd be one bottleneck less in encoding.

[SCR512]

Problem with MKV or any other AVI alternative container format for Anime releases is honestly supporting the leechers that get your subs. When presenting your final product, you want the least amount of complaining and troubleshooting. Eventually ya, we will all embrase OGM or MKV... but until they have become the standard and are in their stable release stages (well, OGM is but MKV is still in active development) AVI will continue to reign supream as the container format of choice for fansubbing. I know between us encoders, its a pain to use such a outdated format, but it could be worse ^^ remember VIVO

[JediNight]

Originally Posted by Cruzz

So they'd rather use an outdated container which wouldn't work at all without all sorts of ugly hacks and workarounds than a beta stage container which was designed for all these things? Oh and VFR files don't make videos jerky, decimation does.

Mentioned by SCR512 is the even more important non-technical reason not to use MKV. The technical skills most leechers possess is somewhere between that of a peanut and a three-toed sloth (*tongue in cheek*) Its hard enough already to keep them up-to-date with playback filters that support the latest xvid whistles, let alone get MKV working on their machine.

Another reason is theres very few animes with VFR content in them. The Naruto OP/EDs like twice now have been that way, and select parts of Gundam Seed -- other than that I don't remember seeing anything else. I also haven't seen any groups release anything in MKV format really, at least none of the listings on Animesuki -- maybe some of the DVD rippers or licensed anime groups that I don't see possibly.

Matroska is basically a "ho-hum gee whiz lookie what we can do" gimmick at this point. Encoders try to be on the "cutting edge" sometimes when its just not worth the headache of trying to get it working. Guaranteed if you try releasing in MKV, that unless you're the only group on that series or the other ppl are totally horrible, the leechers will just avoid the MKV release for the hassle.

Xvid has been so wholly adopted nowadays for one very good reason -- Since you can use the DIVX fourcc tag it is easily playable by anyone with the Divx5 codec which all leechers have. The directshow support for xvid has always been dodgy at best.

[K_R]

Vivo - the porno codec ;)

[Cruzz]

Originally Posted by JediNight

Another reason is theres very few animes with VFR content in them. The Naruto OP/EDs like twice now have been that way, and select parts of Gundam Seed -- other than that I don't remember seeing anything else. I also haven't seen any groups release anything in MKV format really, at least none of the listings on Animesuki -- maybe some of the DVD rippers or licensed anime groups that I don't see possibly.

While I don't know any exact numbers, I'd say that a large percentage of newer anime shows have hybrid content in them, whether it's just the OP/ED or all the CG too is a different matter.

There is (atleast) one group on Animesuki which has done matroska releases, namely Shoujo-Ai (Yami to Boushi to hon no tabibito)

Xvid has been so wholly adopted nowadays for one very good reason -- Since you can use the DIVX fourcc tag it is easily playable by anyone with the Divx5 codec which all leechers have. The directshow support for xvid has always been dodgy at best.

Divx5 hijacks xvid's fourcc by default (even if you have xvid installed as the xvid decoder has low priority for some reason), ergo changing the fourcc is unnecessary as divx will decode xvid by default anyway.

It's not a question of having sketchy support for directshow, it's just that it hasn't actually existed. Lately there's been some test builds of a dshow based xvid encoder, but I haven't tried them yet because I don't know any encoding application which would work with dshow.

[K_R]

You can encode with xvid ds using graphedit.

[Cruzz]

Originally Posted by K_R

You can encode with xvid ds using graphedit.

I would, but graphedit doesn't seem to recognize the xvid dshow encoder as it doesn't show up on the filter list. Not really sure if the problem is with graphedit or with the encoder itself, for all I know the thing might be unusable, heh.

[Elepsis]

Genbu and Solar's Hime-chan no Ribon releases are in mkv format, as the episodes have both English and Russian-language subtitles.

[SirCanealot]

Originally Posted by JediNight

Mentioned by SCR512 is the even more important non-technical reason not to use MKV. The technical skills most leechers possess is somewhere between that of a peanut and a three-toed sloth (*tongue in cheek*) Its hard enough already to keep them up-to-date with playback filters that support the latest xvid whistles, let alone get MKV working on their machine.

I don't understand why people still have problems. I install FFDShow. I install the OGM and MKV playback filters. And I can play everything. If I want to encode I install DivX311/DivX5/XVid. And I still have no problems. I have install a million codecs and still have no problems. It's not even like my computer is anything special; but I still... have no problems!

It's not like the people I know that have problems are even stupid with computers. They aren't.

This sort of thing has led me to believe that computers are evil and alive and they work for me 'cause I'll f-ing kick my PCs ass if it messes me about too much...