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Aesthetic Shampoo · 2012-04-19, 07:32

Is abrupt the word of the day now?

The chapter was perfect but it truly was a horrible ending. It would have been perfect as a second last chapter instead, with the last one showing what happened to everyone else at their wedding or something.

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Originally Posted by lightbringer

Granted, the journey there was great, but I'm just left with an unsatisfied feeling.

It strikes me that this is the feeling Mashiro and Azuki will have a few months into their married life

Fallen3dge · 2012-04-19, 07:38

Is it confirmed that there will no epilogue?

Somnus · 2012-04-19, 07:46

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Originally Posted by noobita

How is my criticism ridiculous? The "Reversi" ending was terrible, and now the Bakuman ending isn't decent as well. Also, this is forum. Everyone has the right to expressing his own opinion and though about it.

Yeah, it is their works. They can finish or do whatever they want with their works, but this doesn't mean that they are free from criticism. Reviews and movies critic existed for a reason.

Good to know you missed the part I was pointing out, and considering the length of the post I was quoting, I didn't think it would be that difficult.

You said you think, "the writer cannot write a proper ending at all". This is what I took issue with. How do you determine what a "proper" ending is? I was pointing out that the only thing you're basing that on is your own preferences. Just because you didn't like it doesn't really give any reason for one to automatically jump to "this person doesn't know how to write an ending".

In retrospect, if you take the very fact the "Reversi" ending was the way it was, one could argue that it foreshadowed how this was going to end. Especially when you pair that reasoning with other things like the hints and discussions the duo were having about "Reversi" in general near the end.

You're not even bothering to think of why things are the way they are. This being axed was one thing, but again, the authors chose to end it this way. That speaks volumes being in a magazine like JUMP.

kakakka · 2012-04-19, 07:49

I thought they already showed each characters the other chapter?

But then again, who could resist Hiramaru and Aoki's wedding.

Sixth · 2012-04-19, 07:51

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You're not even bothering to think of why things are the way they are. This being axed was one thing, but again, the authors chose to end it this way. That speaks volumes being in a magazine like JUMP.

and it is sucks. That is how I felt when I read it.

Somnus · 2012-04-19, 07:57

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Originally Posted by noobita

and it is sucks. That is how I felt when I read it.

Yes, I realize that. Again, that wasn't the main issue of my post.

Proto · 2012-04-19, 08:02

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The chapter was perfect but it truly was a horrible ending. It would have been perfect as a second last chapter instead, with the last one showing what happened to everyone else at their wedding or something.

Epilogues are overrated (aka western/not Japanese). If you have been watching anime for a while you'll notice this is a trend in most Anime series: Most anime endings majorly suck by our standards, but in the end it's just a matter of expectations.

Kurosu · 2012-04-19, 08:30

Heh, you'd think a series with as many likeable secondary characters would showcase them more in the last chapter, but we got thrown for a loop. Kinda makes sense considering the way they were all shown in the penultimate chapter. Woulda liked to have seen the wedding, but there will probably be en epilogue chapter in the final volume release. Kinda abrupt, but fitting.

Enishi · 2012-04-19, 09:00

I read each line of the last chapter two or three times. At the words “Marry me”, I had a heart attack! Though, I’m a bit confused: the store’s ended too suddenly. I’m feeling that I’m unsatisfied…

Ascaloth · 2012-04-19, 09:01

That's it?

Master Chibi · 2012-04-19, 09:03

They end the manga with the two least likable, boring characters in the entire series. In a way I'm glad that it's over but I valued the other characters so much more because they just didn't seem as one dimensional.

Ah well.

RRW · 2012-04-19, 09:13

wait that was end 0_o. i thought it second to last chapter or something

Qilin · 2012-04-19, 09:23

Well then. Now that this series is over at last, I can move on to other things. To repeat things I've already said, the show had a unique premise and the early arcs were good, but then it steadily became worse as the plot stagnated into useless arcs and characters. That said, I'm glad they're finally giving this an end.

As for the final chapter, I have to resonate the sentiment that it was terribly lacking. Firstly, the moment of Mashiro and Azuki uniting was rather underwhelming. Well, maybe not so much, but the absence of just about any other character in it made it feel rather empty. And more importantly, what about the supporting characters? Not even a bone for them? The cameos from the previous chapter were hardly sufficient, I'd say. So many loose ends left behind... Kind of sad really.

As much as I dislike Takagi, doesn't he even get a final word? Meh.

Valky · 2012-04-19, 10:44

The kiss at the end is kinda sweet, but I'm disappointed to unable to see their wedding ..

Well, it was a fun ride, I'm expecting their another work.

larethian · 2012-04-19, 11:11

There might be an epilogue in the tankoubon if there are not enough chapters to fill up a volume. And given how abrupt this is, there probably will be one (just guessing though).

As to my thoughts on the series, I have a number of comments to make, but I'm too tired now......

Randrak42 · 2012-04-19, 11:30

I don't get it, was it axed or was it their decision to end it?

ZeroForever · 2012-04-19, 11:45

given the popularity and anime series, they most likely choose to end it.

i agree it feels a bit to sudden and doesn't explain the rest of the cast but realistically there wasn't that much more to explore. Still I agree if there was one more chapter with general exposition on the other characters and life goes one type scenario I probably would have liked it better.

Soverence · 2012-04-19, 11:46

I felt that it was a suitable ending, the story was always really about their dream, even if at times it seemed to take a background it was always there. So for the manga to end with their dream finally being realized it seems like a very suitable end to me, anymore would come off as filler to me.

As for the manga as a whole, I thought that the characters were all pretty interesting to say the least (If not some of them just plain out weird, but I liked that about the characters).

I see some people complaining about all the side characters not getting any time in the final chapter, my question is why would they? All of their stories were wrapped up pretty well in the previous chapters in my opinion, what more would you want to see? Them congratulating the two? Negi making more Manga (like you need to see that, the final declaration of "War" was a suitable final scene for him, cause he was the rival through it all). As I said, anymore from them would be buffer, usually mangas wrap up the side characters stories in the final chapter, but Bakuman has been doing it for the past five chapters or so.

Overall, Bakuman was probably one of the better things I have read in recent years, if not for its unique premise then the fact that I found all the characters to be very like-able, if not a little unrealistic.

Randrak42 · 2012-04-19, 12:04

I'll say this much, Bakuman at least taught me a whole lot about how the manga industry works.

Starshipw · 2012-04-19, 12:08

What I wanted and expected to see:

Miho in her gown standing at the alter.
Miyoshi in a bridesmaid gown.
Eiji showering flowers.
Hiramaru silliness.
Takagi in more than a flashback.
The honeymoon with Miho venting 24 years worth of sexual repression and Mashiro trying to survive it.
If not that than at least a hug, a clinch, more than a chaste kiss separated by an iron gate.

Any or all of that would have been fun.
But most of all what was missing was manga. The last line in the series should have definitely been, "OK Shuujin, what do we want to draw next?"

2012-04-19, 09:03	Link #2951
Master Chibi .: A bad doggy :. Join Date: Jun 2007	They end the manga with the two least likable, boring characters in the entire series. In a way I'm glad that it's over but I valued the other characters so much more because they just didn't seem as one dimensional. Ah well. __________________ ~*Hai! Back to Japan! Updated once a week - http://pishi.wordpress.com/ Last updated - 5/30/10 - Random Manga Roulette!

2012-04-19, 09:23	Link #2953
Qilin Romanticist Join Date: Aug 2009 Age: 33	Well then. Now that this series is over at last, I can move on to other things. To repeat things I've already said, the show had a unique premise and the early arcs were good, but then it steadily became worse as the plot stagnated into useless arcs and characters. That said, I'm glad they're finally giving this an end. As for the final chapter, I have to resonate the sentiment that it was terribly lacking. Firstly, the moment of Mashiro and Azuki uniting was rather underwhelming. Well, maybe not so much, but the absence of just about any other character in it made it feel rather empty. And more importantly, what about the supporting characters? Not even a bone for them? The cameos from the previous chapter were hardly sufficient, I'd say. So many loose ends left behind... Kind of sad really. As much as I dislike Takagi, doesn't he even get a final word? Meh. __________________ "There’s an up higher than up, but at the very top, down is all there is."

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Valky Radioactive Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: The Big Durian	The kiss at the end is kinda sweet, but I'm disappointed to unable to see their wedding .. Well, it was a fun ride, I'm expecting their another work. __________________

2012-04-19, 11:45	Link #2957
ZeroForever Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: all and none	given the popularity and anime series, they most likely choose to end it. i agree it feels a bit to sudden and doesn't explain the rest of the cast but realistically there wasn't that much more to explore. Still I agree if there was one more chapter with general exposition on the other characters and life goes one type scenario I probably would have liked it better. __________________ the anti-thesis of myself

2012-04-19, 11:46	Link #2958
Soverence Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Where the Sky Touches the Sea Age: 30	I felt that it was a suitable ending, the story was always really about their dream, even if at times it seemed to take a background it was always there. So for the manga to end with their dream finally being realized it seems like a very suitable end to me, anymore would come off as filler to me. As for the manga as a whole, I thought that the characters were all pretty interesting to say the least (If not some of them just plain out weird, but I liked that about the characters). I see some people complaining about all the side characters not getting any time in the final chapter, my question is why would they? All of their stories were wrapped up pretty well in the previous chapters in my opinion, what more would you want to see? Them congratulating the two? Negi making more Manga (like you need to see that, the final declaration of "War" was a suitable final scene for him, cause he was the rival through it all). As I said, anymore from them would be buffer, usually mangas wrap up the side characters stories in the final chapter, but Bakuman has been doing it for the past five chapters or so. Overall, Bakuman was probably one of the better things I have read in recent years, if not for its unique premise then the fact that I found all the characters to be very like-able, if not a little unrealistic. __________________ My AnimeList: http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Soverence My MangaList: http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/Soverence

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Fallen3dge Darkest Light Join Date: Feb 2012	Is it confirmed that there will no epilogue?

2012-04-19, 07:49	Link #2944
kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	I thought they already showed each characters the other chapter? But then again, who could resist Hiramaru and Aoki's wedding.

2012-04-19, 08:30	Link #2948
Kurosu KORA!! Scanlator Join Date: May 2009 Age: 32	Heh, you'd think a series with as many likeable secondary characters would showcase them more in the last chapter, but we got thrown for a loop. Kinda makes sense considering the way they were all shown in the penultimate chapter. Woulda liked to have seen the wedding, but there will probably be en epilogue chapter in the final volume release. Kinda abrupt, but fitting.

2012-04-19, 09:00	Link #2949
Enishi Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011	I read each line of the last chapter two or three times. At the words “Marry me”, I had a heart attack! Though, I’m a bit confused: the store’s ended too suddenly. I’m feeling that I’m unsatisfied…

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Ascaloth I don't give a damn, dude Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Despair Age: 37	That's it?

2012-04-19, 11:11	Link #2955
larethian Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	There might be an epilogue in the tankoubon if there are not enough chapters to fill up a volume. And given how abrupt this is, there probably will be one (just guessing though). As to my thoughts on the series, I have a number of comments to make, but I'm too tired now......

2012-04-19, 11:30	Link #2956
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	I don't get it, was it axed or was it their decision to end it?

2012-04-19, 12:04	Link #2959
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	I'll say this much, Bakuman at least taught me a whole lot about how the manga industry works.

2012-04-19, 12:08	Link #2960
Starshipw Free Opinions Available Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Vacationing in the southern isles.	What I wanted and expected to see: Miho in her gown standing at the alter. Miyoshi in a bridesmaid gown. Eiji showering flowers. Hiramaru silliness. Takagi in more than a flashback. The honeymoon with Miho venting 24 years worth of sexual repression and Mashiro trying to survive it. If not that than at least a hug, a clinch, more than a chaste kiss separated by an iron gate. Any or all of that would have been fun. But most of all what was missing was manga. The last line in the series should have definitely been, "OK Shuujin, what do we want to draw next?"