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Hillary Clinton visit Seoul as Korean crisis mounts
Yap, Hillary has arrived in Seoul today. Looks like thing will get more tense. |
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2010-05-26, 00:09 | Link #7363 |
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NK == 3 yr old throwing a tantrum because someone noticed they made a mess. They're also prone to these pathetic tantrums when they think the world spotlight has been off them too long. (In reality, this is probably an internal struggle between crazed hard-liners and "normalization" advocates but we'll never know)
Best as I can tell, the ship sinking was a tactical error of the kind you get after keeping your troops on hair-trigger for years (old Cold War movie example: The Bedford Incident). If NK had simply said "oops", this could all be avoided. I know China likes their "psychotic dog" (it keeps the geopolitical forces off-balance), but I keep waiting for the dog to whip around and bite China in the ass by royally screwing something up.
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And no, the evil bastards in a position to do something to stop this do not care about their own people. If they did, we would never have gotten here. Yup. |
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And as for your other rather offbeat uninformed points, everyone else have properly refuted already, no need for me to do any work. You might want to study up on the Japan-US relation, and what US afterwar laws have been imposed on Japan, and still carries on to this day. While your'e at it, study up on South Korean-US treaties and relations. Have a nice day.
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2010-05-26, 01:40 | Link #7368 | |
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honestly I wouldn't be suprised if chinese military forces start gathering at the NK border, if china wants to do anything to maintain it's influence it's power in the region with less American involvement crushing the regime in the north would pretty much quell a lot of the tensions. |
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2010-05-26, 02:19 | Link #7369 |
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US demands world response over Korea warship sinking
So, will it become North Korea vs World?? Now, US has also ask China to join their side. I dunno how China will react. I mean, Kim just go to Beijing last month and now US come and ask to go against Kim. |
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Seriously, China may prefer the status quo but its becoming untenable for them not to drop *some* kind of foot on NK. China's move towards globalization and dependence on trading partners make the continued misbehavior of NK a boat anchor for them.
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2010-05-26, 02:27 | Link #7371 |
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the last thing China wants tbh is for this incident to spiral out of control as it would mean a rush of refugees crossing the border at a time there is already much restlessness at home (job losses, rights complaints etc.) the only political reason they keep such a lunatic time bomb bankrolled is probably just to piss off America/Japan/etc and to try and keep influence, no matter how small or indirect, in this particular theatre.
personally to me this is one of those 'gg China' moments that ranks up there with Tianmen and Taiwan in terms of stupidity and excessiveness.
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2010-05-26, 02:52 | Link #7373 |
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...*still searching for that damn fplm pic*
...*screw it* /fplm none of us ever blamed China o.o must be the raging conservative mind at work, always trying to pin the fault on someone else when it's your own damn fault. see? you just labeled us and we just labeled you right back. sigh it's true what they say about arguing on the net.
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2010-05-26, 02:55 | Link #7374 |
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"personally to me this is one of those 'gg China' moments that ranks up there with Tianmen and Taiwan in terms of stupidity and excessiveness."
Nk mucking around in international waters is a "gg china moment" how utterly stupid is that statement. AND LOL me conservative. |
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The incident isn't "China's fault" and no one said that. However, China's *influence* is critical to how this plays out. I'm not "anti-China".. hell, my son is going there this summer to Beijing to do research.
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2010-05-26, 03:00 | Link #7376 |
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orly? your language and attitude kinda speak differently to me. oh wait, stereotyping, that's bad.. ah well exception for you c:
AND LOL me anti-China? I'm Chinese. I love and support my country. I'm just not wallowing in propaganda and rabidly nationalistic. try to keep those labels for the flame threads yeah?
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2010-05-26, 03:06 | Link #7377 |
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It has always been clear that China's involvement in NK has kept the regime up but the whole notion that Chinese are in a Tianamen/Taiwan situation over this is ridiculous. And ABSOLUTELY assinine. I've state through and through that as long as China is in this situation it should sanction NK, but propping it up is nothing different than when the Americans put in Lio in Nam. These soviet era satelitte countries are troublesome but that is the nature of the beast. I mean so the Chinese have had a tepid response, they have their sovereignty to worry about too.
LOL you respond to the one part of my statement not directed at your ludicrous, ridiculous, and merit less proclamations. Deflection much? Last edited by Nosauz; 2010-05-26 at 03:19. |
2010-05-26, 03:12 | Link #7378 |
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My condolences Seitsuki...
My condolence Nosauz... But I think you both are idiots for letting loose words slip, worse still provoking one another. I'm very certain you two are above maggot and simple-minded warmongering trash. Excuse me for the bluntness. But I think that was unnecessarily, so therefore I made something even more unnecessarily to make a point. I'd like to drop the malice now and get back to News Stories now. (I would but internet is too slow to download stuff on yahoo ) |
2010-05-26, 03:24 | Link #7379 |
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edit: concerning deflection..
Tianmen- killing unarmed students, PR fun all round, who won? Taiwan- polarising both sides, relations only warming cos not threatening to blow them up every other day, who won? and NK- propping up a government I'm sure even you wouldn't want to live under, risking war, possibly nuclear in worst case, all because you gave them the funds to keep running, who's gonna win from THAT? but I digress. point taken. Nosauz, apologies for the raeg but I've had a pretty crap exam today and I just don't feel like being very civil atm. meh. ...yeah anyone have any news?
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