2009-12-31, 14:28 | Link #121 |
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Just watched it the other night at Imax, in 3D. The visuals were breathtaking. They were really good. When it first sorta glided you through the trees I got that downhill roller coaster feeling. It took me awhile to settle in because we sat too far forward, but once I did I was immersed. I couldn't tell if the avatars were actors heavily modified with CG and make up, or if they were entirely CG. Can anyone clarify?
The plot isn't very good though. I didn't really like any of the characters (except the colonel, but that's probably because he's the closest thing to something badass in the movie. Maybe I'm just a retard that way), they were pretty standard archetypes. (including the colonel >_>) Spoiler for spoilers:
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2009-12-31, 21:36 | Link #122 |
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It was decent. Saw it in theaters in 3D. But I think people are overrating how epic it was. The visuals were impressive, but the story was a familiar one...most notably in Dances with Wolves and then The Last Samurai. If I could break down the film in a few words I would label it as Final Fantasy meets Dances with Wolves. Still worth the money none-the-less. I don't see myself adding it to my favorites collection when it comes out for home release though.
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2009-12-31, 22:59 | Link #123 |
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I thought the movie was okay. The special effects and James Horner's score are amazing, and I'm a major scenery porn lover so I liked all the focus on Pandora's environment. But as cool and imaginative as the whole world of Pandora is, I found the story hard to get emotionally involved in since most of the characters, except for Dr. Grace and Colonel Miles Quattrich, seem so flat to me.
I do have to commend Cameron for managing to make Quattrich quite threatening during the final battle even though he's probably physically weaker than Jake at that point. |
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Elements of mankind seems infected with this "rape, pillage, extract" disease that ruin a good day for the other 80% of the population (whether they're minions for these psychopaths or the ones in the way). I enjoyed the film quite a lot... but that's recognizing the basic "Fern Gully Dances with Wolves" underpinning. I've meet real Quattrich types and real "corporate bozo" types so even those characters aren't so "over-the-top" as some might think. All the character development, however, did suffer from the "no time, too much to see" problem so they're left somewhat sketchy. The Dr. Grace subplot and getting her wish wasn't that cheesy... though it did telegraph Jake's end solution so thoroughly a doorstop would get it... so it goes. I liked the little chopper pilot -- reminded me of a KC-135 pilot and a search&rescue Blackhawk H-60 pilot I worked with.... they both looked quite cute in their flightsuits and were gumchewing smartasses
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2010-01-01, 08:02 | Link #127 |
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it made back it's 500 million budget opening week, it's successful. Most hollywood movies range from low 50s to 120 for action films, the monster budget, I bet the studio was hoping to break even, but gudging by the publics reaction to the movie this will be seen as a success. Also not to mention most movies lose money while this one even with a large budget has started making money.
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You're hearing things from trolls then. Avatar has in less than two weeks and made more than three quarters of a billion dollars.
Avatar's Most movies that are "successful" typically get revenue drops of up to 60% on their 2nd weekend. Avatar's revenue dropped 1.8% Also, the weekday releases of Avatar 2nd week of release have actually seen it making more money than it did it's first week of release. Post 1st week of release, the idea that Avatar was going to bomb was just trolling perpetuated by butt hurt people on /tv/ who had invested many troll points in predicting Avatar would fail. That's why that one day when that new Alvin movie got released where it made a few million more than Avatar did, everyone got on the troll car to harp about Avatar failing. Quote:
It had a 237 million dollar production budget with 150 million dollars allocated to marketing. Combined that's only 15% more expensive than the Dark Knight.
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2010-01-01, 13:16 | Link #133 |
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Still what I found so true in the movie is the corruptness in humans. I mean Avatar was a geniune display on how corrupt and greedy, war-hungry, humans are. And I do admit that the whole Jake falling in love with the Navi native, was a bit and the whole "love-scene" where they did the bad thing lol, was like.
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It display a beautiful story line on how people who have lost all hope(Jake), manages too find hope in life(Navi). But still I really am curious how the sequals will carry on the story... if there will be one. I mean the movie ended perfectly, Jake got his wish and got too be with Navi girl, and who knows perhaps now he is the leader of the Tribe etc etc. And the Humans who left the earth are now on a long 5 years trip too Earth. So if there is a sequal I doubt it will have Humans as enemys. |
2010-01-01, 13:33 | Link #134 |
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^From various interviews, Cameron has expressed interest in producing novels that explore life on not only the Na'vi's world, but other moons orbiting the gas giant in the sky.
His next movie, though, is Battle Angel Alita...then again, this has been his next movie since 2000 or so. |
2010-01-01, 16:30 | Link #135 |
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http://news.mongabay.com/2009/1222-hance_avatar.html
A rather depressing article about how companies in the real world are doing things AT LEAST as bad as in the film to indigenous peoples around the world. Said people also have the disadvantage that unlike the Na'vi they aren't three meters tall, hideously strong, and can call upon mighty animals to fight beside them, so they don't even have the option of driving out the f@%Īkers who rape their lands with force. |
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You could probably provide hundreds of such links and documentation... until the large extractive corporations and their executives are made responsible for their actions - it is unlikely to change.
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2010-01-02, 10:00 | Link #139 | |
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Why? Because Ferngully was one of my favorite animated movies when I was a child, and I read that dances with wolves got 7 oscars, including best picture, and that the Sioux Nation liked it so much they even adopted Costner as an honorary member. Bit funny that negative remarks about the movie just made me more interested. |
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2010-01-02, 12:00 | Link #140 |
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True that, as others have said originality is nice but not required. I thought this movie did a good job of combining and re-using old themes and plot elements. I mean, like you said, we might have already seen Dances With Wolves, but not the space version! So in that sense Avatar still brought something new to the table by combining these elements in a meaningful fashion.
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