2012-08-18, 07:25 | Link #1981 | |
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It's been a long time. Good episode though ending makes me believe that Ao's world is a fake.
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2012-08-18, 07:42 | Link #1982 | |
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No it will be pretty much the Matrix. The Scub, Secrets and Humans on both universes will have to compromise. |
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2012-08-18, 18:48 | Link #1985 |
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Pet theory: each shot fired from that gun uses up one of the crystals originally taken from the scub. When said crystal is used it's destroyed effectively removing the associated scub itself from existence and triggering the butterfly effect we've witnessed at the end of the last episode. Thoughts?
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2012-08-18, 20:14 | Link #1986 |
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I'm not sure if Kawamori is doing this anime, but I think he is. For him, the greenheads always suffer (Ranka Lee, Zessica) for the sake of plot, or sometimes maybe just suffer for the drama it brings.
Right now, the Eurekas and AO are being thrown in a loop, and the Goldilocks (green team) just got obliterated. Is this some kind of racism? EDIT: I just realized that with that "cannon" firing, it resulted in that giant column of Light. The same light that Eureka used to jump to safety. Perhaps that wasn't a cannon. Maybe its in fact a transdimensional engine used by the Scub to jump from world to world (the clue as it visually resembles a rocket, and Mark I was riding in the saddle when it first manifest), and the Secret just got blown up in its back blast (if it has enough energy to jump across dimensions, that's a SHIT TON of energy right there). And so Ao could've just jumped into another timeline that didn't have Goldilocks in it.
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2012-08-18, 21:27 | Link #1988 | ||
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2012-08-18, 21:32 | Link #1989 |
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Latest episode felt really disjointed and didn't quite pick up where it left off like I would have hoped.
Ultimately what's becoming increasingly clear to me about Eureka 7 Ao is that while there are a lot of interesting ideas at work, the execution and the characters fall a little bit too flat to make it come to fruition. Eureka 7 wasn't particularly a tightly written story, but the emotional investment in its characters made it so much easier to stay engaged.
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2012-08-18, 23:14 | Link #1990 | |
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Scary stuff. As for the episode being disjointed eh, I don't see it. But then I've been enjoying every episode of this show so who knows, I might be crazy. |
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2012-08-18, 23:20 | Link #1991 | |
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2012-08-19, 00:47 | Link #1994 |
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While I'm fine with the intrigue of the show this far I think it's focusing too much on it. Rewatching Eureka Seven along with this I find that it did a far better job on creating and developing its characters before delving into the environment / setting / and really digging into the plot.
The series has also forgotten how wonderful it was to be wrapped around in the idea of surfing in the sky. I originally lauded E7 for such a thing but I came to love it. AO really hasn't embraced that part of the E7 lore, and I wish they would. As it is now they're taking bits and pieces of E7 and doing fine with them but I don't really 'feel' for anyone and its more curiosity than it is genuine intrigue and excitement to see what's next.
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2012-08-19, 01:13 | Link #1996 | ||
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In the end, the result is favorable to the Secrets (death for them doesn't seem to be an issue and may well have been a catalyst rather than end goal of the firing, and you don't see them popping out of every orifice to chase after Ao's new toy), arguably favorable for the world (one less Scub means one less reason for Secrets to show up), favorable for the Goldilocks kids as they get to live normal lives with their parents (and Bruno's probably alive now), but unfavorable for the Scub (or so I would think). Quote:
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2012-08-19, 01:44 | Link #1997 | ||
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Again, look at Madoka. It was also a mystery-rooted show. It created enough concepts and characters to work with in the span of 12 episodes. And AO is just a bloody mess. I remember watching Gemini of the Meteor and every god damn episode was going "What a twist, eh?" to the viewer. Don't need to tell you guys how that turned out. |
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2012-08-19, 01:49 | Link #1998 | |
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What do you remember about E7 the most? The relationship between Renton and Eureka. But not only that, there's also the relationship between Renton and Holland and the rest of the Gekkostate gang. There's also Holland and Talho, and Anemone and Dominic too. Whenever you think about E7, you think about people interaction with one another, forming significant bonds of any kind. This is why the characters in E7 are so compelling. AO on the other hand deals with the characters mostly as individual entities. That's why they feel kinda flat even though there is some development here and there.
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2012-08-19, 01:57 | Link #1999 |
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What I think about most is the wasted opportunities that resulted from sloppy writing, a lack of editing and how much I grew to hate Holland by the time the series was over... I loved that show in spite of its warts, but I don't gloss over them.
I've long ago given up on trying to convince people that AO is actually the better series, but it's my firm belief that most of the criticism stems from people measuring it against E7 - which is unsurprising, since it's attempting (successfully, in my view) to be a very different kind of show. Everyone will come to their own conclusions, and there's no point in worrying about it. We're too deep into the series for entrenched opinions to be be changed, anyway.
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2012-08-19, 02:05 | Link #2000 | |
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Some people like multilayered stories rich with more believeable characters than loli smarter-than-their-age mecha pilots. Truth and Naru with their inconsistent actions and terrible design already kick AO's sorry ass off any "good writing" position it might've achieved. Sloppy writing? Lack of editing? You bet AO has all of them. It would be like trying to convince people the prequel trilogy of Star Wars is better because it has like... action! And politics! Totally better! Is there something I don't see? Is the plot really complex or are they just jerking off by spreading a relatively simple story over 10 hours in a way that makes it look like it's a mystery but in reality it's just witholding elements of the narrative from the viewer to extend the runtime? Are these characters really more humane than these in E7? I'm sorry, but I just don't see it! And why is Eureka so irrelevant to anything in her own show? I guess Aikawa knows what he's doing though since it's a better series! Last edited by Daniel Lind; 2012-08-19 at 02:35. |
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