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Originally Posted by apr
No one's mentioned the insanely powerful scene with the hot coffee either. From the moment Hiromi invites him over at school, through the way she urges him on in the staircase, and sits down to take his hands along with the cup, and sips the coffee, there's a roaring sexual tension. Then she goes and says "ii yo", which most likely should be interpreted as consent for having sex. She's basically so anxious to keep Shin with her that she'll throw herself at him. Luckily Shin sees through her madness and stops it, resulting in Hiromi feeling ashamed and sending him off, because it's not like her to be so ... nasty. The situation with Shin's mother has changed her, and all of Shin's affection is based on a lifetime of knowing and loving her before she moves into his home.
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Interesting. I didn't really see it that way, I thought she was just telling Shin to do what he wants--oh wait, I guess I'm dense afterall.
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Originally Posted by relentlessflame
His heart ached when he was with her because of all this, but "wavers" implies too strongly that it was lessening his feelings for Hiromi, which the show (it seems to me) has never otherwise suggested. I think the feelings Shinichirou had for Noe were strong and powerful, but different than those he had for Hiromi. But, him being torn between these two seperate sets of emotions was causing pain for both girls; he couldn't have both. This is why he could still rightfully say that Hiromi was the one he's always loved, but Noe was the one who inspired him to draw, dance, and "fly". This also ties into why I felt the confession scene after the farewell made sense. Perhaps all this is just arguing semantics, but it seems to me that the distinction is important, again in that small, subtle way that defines a lot of the show's message.
Of course, that's all just my own interpretation/opinion, and everyone's free to disagree. Whatever works for you.  |
This reminds me of the "Koibito" translation from FF7 love triangle, well anyway lol I did a little researching too and the word that I always see come up is "tremble". It's just like what Rembr defined. ^_^ Therefore, I'm going to have to go with the subbers because I trust them and that's basically consistent from what I saw in Shin's behavior. It's the reason why I thought he'd really throw us a curve ball, but alas, he stayed true to his resolve.
In episode 12, people are hating Shin because of his dull actions and jerk-ish attitude towards Hiromi. I mean, he already had Hiromi but the girl he wanted to see most was Noe. The debates were all going on how he just really wanted to show the picturebook to her, but it didn't really seem that that was all. For me, episode 13 just brought light as to why Shin had to act the way he did during the festival. His feelings wavered. His "Hiromi 4ever" conviction 'trembles' whenever he looks at Noe.
"I'm in love with Hiromi, but the reason I was able to draw was because of you. I was able to dance because you were there."
"I'm in love with Hiromi, but when I look at you, my heart 'trembles/shakes'"
If Shin's romantic affection towards Noe was too subtle to see compared to Hiromi's then this by far is the strongest. It came from his own mouth. This is why I agree with the subbers when they used the word "waver". It was the best word to describe what he felt. Why would he feel the need to chant desperately that he loves Hiromi when he was watching Noe walk away? Let's admit it, he basically cried true tears. He was wavering and keeping himself from chasing Noe. Funny or not. That's all it is. For a girl who opened up his shell, something Hiromi didn't manage to do, it's not inconsistent for him to be
that attached to Noe--enough to waver his (he's been loving her forever) feelings for Hiromi. In my opinion, that's what the writers want to tell us about Noe and Shin's relationship. They didn't end up together but the way they impacted each other was beautiful. Just like an angel and a human if you want to romanticize it. Bittersweet.
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Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf
Episode 10 should have been the ending!  In comparison, Episode 13 lacked the "natural high" that Episode 10 provided. Coming immediately after the surprising turn of events in Episode 12, the concluding episode of True Tears felt somewhat anti-climatic. |
They didn't choose to end the show with another scene from the final pairing because this show's not just about Shin and Hiromi getting together. Instead, the focus of the aftermath, other than the casts' character development, was Shin's how to cry true tears monologue and Noe's demonstration.
It was fresh and well done. It stayed true to the show's theme.
But I think I get what you mean. If I were a huge fan of HiromixShin, I would've wanted an end like that of episode 10 regardless of what the writers want to impose on us.
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It's despicable. If he did lie for the purpose of an arrangement with Jun then that shows a very weak character.
