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Zekori · 2007-04-12, 12:01

Hmm... something I just noticed after watching the anime, but didnt find it apparent in the manga (only as far the end of Komo's arc).

Spoiler:

As for "uninstall"...

Spoiler:

Otherwise, the anime is fine so far.

stpehen · 2007-04-12, 13:06

Actually, I have to step up and admit, I really hate Mamiko Noto's voice, too. It just sounds so artificially breathy and fake to me.

Codex · 2007-04-12, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Child_of_Sierra

Lyrics of the opening fit very well with the show.
However, the word "Uninstall" other than being the name of the song is kind of out of place within the song. Anyone mind explaining to me why? or what it's meaning might be within the song's context?

Well, for me, I didn't know it was "uninstall" until much later, so it sounds perfectly alright to me.

But, as someone who's never read the manga ... the song seems to be the voice of the children. And the cries for "uninstall" (which beautifully coincide with on-screen destruction and darkness) possibly reflect their horror at what's happening, regret for what has happened, and a yearning for their lost innocence. My assumption is that "uninstall" refers to their desire to "uninstall" the game they find themselves caught in and reset everything.

SeijiSensei · 2007-04-12, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Skane

First off, I have not read the manga, but I have been irrevocably spoilt due to brats who don't seem to understand the concept of hiding spoilers.

I'm with Skane. Please no more manga talk here. If you want to discuss the manga, you have a whole other thread over here for that.

This show looks like one of the better offerings of what's been so far a rather desultory season. I'd hate to have to avoid this thread for fear I'll keep encountering spoilers based on comparisons to the manga. I already have the distinct feeling I know what's going to happen to the children just from a brief survey of the postings here, and that's without opening any spoiler tags.

Shiroth · 2007-04-12, 20:45

Yeah, i noticed a lot of people were talking about the manga. Oh, and thanks for the link to the manga thread, i completely forgot about that. :3

Guido · 2007-04-12, 22:10

When I found out that Bokurano was adapted from the manga, published by the same author of Narutaru, and reading on the New Anime Announce thread about the upcoming anime I immediately marked it on my list of most expecting shows for this Spring season.

With a smile on my face I can only say that GONZO did a good job at handling the beginning of the story. Not only did they give time to introduce all of their children and have a prologue scoop on their characters' traits but also alloted the enough time to display how the game works and what is the premise to the game.

Unlike Narutaru, Bokurano actually starts with a grim storm coming from the horizon about the premonition of bad things to come.

It is really impossible for me to remember each of the children's names as for now, but if they plan this series for thirteen episodes then in no way there are going to go far with developing the characters. Instead, the staff would have to focus on just the story about the children's growth and experiences while they start to play the game in order to make it alive.

In one word to how I am describing Bokurano is GANTZ but instead of killing aliens with skin suits and hi-tech weapons, giant robots are piloted to crush alien mecha robots.
And there's a fix set of players, unlike GANTZ. Lastly, the imperative difference to GANTZ is that all the children came to the game alive. But it is interesting for me to point out that the way the teleportation occurs when the robots dissappear and reappear poses the similar effect when the Gantzers are teleporting in and outside the game.

Just like Narutaru, Bokurano begins one with a stand-on about the children's views on the world. Maybe the world is already rotten to some...

Maybe to others the world would eventually rot....
Or maybe the world would be rotten by the adults so it makes no difference if anyone of them contributes to ruin it or not.

I have a feeling that I saw another character resembling Kokopelli in another show, but the images in my mind are very blur and cannot recall them well.

I expect both good and bad things about Bokurano. Unlike Gantz, there was no signs of violence per se, but if it is from Narutaru's author, then I expect the violence to be more psychological than visceral. That is the type of violence and hallucination that messes with our imaginations and fears to leave us hanging what f*** really happens when someone dies.

BTW, the opening song, Uninstall, and footage are very likeable since to me I am feeling Evangelion -esque vibes from within them.

wao · 2007-04-13, 05:33

Alright, so I watched it. Definitely a very solid Gonzo production, but what with the equally impressive Romeo x Juliet I have a feeling the budget's going to go thataway and not here (since here the story could possibly hold it up rather than the Prettiness).

Firstly... I was blown away by the backgrounds, really, they were extremely outstanding I had to say. It was the most obvious "ooh" factor for me, and I suppose it helps that the characters were extremely well placed against them. Gonzo's composite department is it's strongest point after all, I think...

But aside from that, there's a lot you could say about the characters/story - I think I'll refrain from it here because it looks like something that could go very many places from here. It's just that I have to say I'm not exactly sold yet, because with this kind of story my personal annoyances with particular characters can really get into the way. And I have to say while the dialogue did sound suitably kiddish in some parts, in others it just felt a little uh... forced or something. Especially when the kids were in the cockpit, I dunno what it was that irked me slightly but...
At any rate even if the anime becomes really unbearable or I can't stand watching certain characters once a week, perhaps I'll read the manga and marathon it (I could stand Uninhabited Planet Survive that way!)

The animation was nothing... omgjawdropamazing, IMO, but pretty good nonetheless. I got a feeling that there was close attention to light and shadow and it lent a very finished touch to the animation despite the Kitoh's simple designs. From episode 2's preview I'm already starting to worry about how well the animation would be kept up though, looking at the lines and stuff.

Speaking of the staff -

Spoiler for long diatribe:

Oh oh oh, and I have to do a little tap-dance here because Norio Matsumoto was in the OP

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Spoiler for more diatribe:

And speaking of seiyuu, I didn't mind Noto this ep (generally I'm somewhat OK with her although I didn't like her job as Nina), but what really grates on my ears is Daisuke Sakaguchi. Every single job he does... -_- Be it Keel in Tide Line Blue, whashisname from NHK ni Youkoso or Waku here, I have to apologize and say I dislike his voice. Maybe it fits and stuff but I... can't stand it much...

Anyway, looking forward to more - with a bit of wariness, I've not read the manga but I hope it doesn't get gratituously emo and too sadistic. Not that I dislike sad things happening but sometimes it gets rather tiring if it goes on and on and you have way too much of the emo-kid syndrome. I'm emo enough as it is, don't need to see much more of it in anime until I get happy again...

7Th · 2007-04-13, 07:48

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Originally Posted by wao

"Norio Matsumoto tidbit"

Heh, Norio Matsumoto was also in One Piece 304... I think... I must still watch the episode myself.

FatPianoBoy · 2007-04-13, 09:53

Guys, seriously - this thread is borderline useless if you haven't read the manga

Impz · 2007-04-13, 11:40

I don't think so. I think the anime experience is often very different compared to the manga. In a way, the story does become interesting, for a non manga reader like me, who watches the series much earlier due to me watching raws/chinese subs faster than those who watch english subs.

You do not need the manga to discuss.

p/s: Blogging this series is hell fun

Scribble · 2007-04-13, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Impz

p/s: Blogging this series is hell fun

Lol, try blogging Touka Gettan instead. =P

7Th · 2007-04-13, 14:29

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Originally Posted by 7Th

Heh, Norio Matsumoto was also in One Piece 304... I think... I must still watch the episode myself.

Also, I'm not really sure we'll only see Matsumoto in Bokurano. Gainax's Tadashi Hiramatsu for example is a part of various Gurren-Lagann's episodes staff, with a scene in 2 and will direct the animation in 8 and 15, but will also get to work on Dennou Coil 11.

piccu · 2007-04-13, 16:07

Gonzo did an excellent job with Bokurano! At first I really had some doubts about it, but I'm REALLY impressed!! Two of my most expected anime this Season are made by Gonzo (Bokurano & Romeo x Juliet).

The animation is fitting and the music is good; It's great how they built up the atmosphere of the episode and the OP Unistall is epic win!
This one is my favourite Spring 2007 anime!

Lilith · 2007-04-13, 16:19

Ep 1
This is not like Digimon? Kids saving the world...

I'll keep watching it just to see the reason behind the weird siblings.

7Th · 2007-04-13, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Lilith

Ep 1
This is not like Digimon? Kids saving the world...

I'll keep watching it just to see the reason behind the weird siblings.

If you were serious about that...

PLEASE KEEP WATCHING AND DON'T READ THE SPOILERS!

Scribble · 2007-04-13, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Lilith

Ep 1
This is not like Digimon? Kids saving the world...

I'll keep watching it just to see the reason behind the weird siblings.

You're not being sarcastic, are you? Keep watching =D

FatPianoBoy · 2007-04-13, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Impz

I don't think so. I think the anime experience is often very different compared to the manga. In a way, the story does become interesting, for a non manga reader like me, who watches the series much earlier due to me watching raws/chinese subs faster than those who watch english subs.

You do not need the manga to discuss.

When the meat of nearly every post is contained in spoilers, it's hard to find a place to jump in. FPB does not like spoilers, especially since I'll probably read the manga once the series finishes.

piccu · 2007-04-13, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Lilith

Ep 1
This is not like Digimon? Kids saving the world...

I'll keep watching it just to see the reason behind the weird siblings.

Hey I'm seriously feeling offended by that statement

PLEASE never ever compare this epic masterpiece with Digimon

Bokurano is great and not the tiniest bit like Digimon

7Th · 2007-04-13, 16:50

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Originally Posted by piccu

Hey I'm seriously feeling offended by that statement

PLEASE never ever compare this epic masterpiece with Digimon

Bokurano is great and not the tiniest bit like Digimon

Dude... please, tell you didn't meant to say that. I wanted to see the [Spoiler]Narutaru[/spolier] effect for myself so please don't spoil us the fun.

piccu · 2007-04-13, 17:05

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Originally Posted by 7Th

Dude... please, tell you didn't meant to say that. I wanted to see the [Spoiler]Narutaru[/spolier] effect for myself so please don't spoil us the fun.

it was 30% serious and 70% lol ^^ At first I was shocked when I read that, but with the wisdom of hindsight it was kinda obvious that no one would do that^^
that's the huge disadvantage in written stuff; it sometimes can get really messy when you use sarcasm^^

The only thing that is a bit bothering me is that they've changed some chairs^^ that you could see in the ED

Spoiler:

2007-04-12, 12:01	Link #141
Zekori Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Hmm... something I just noticed after watching the anime, but didnt find it apparent in the manga (only as far the end of Komo's arc). Spoiler: Kokopelli, before making the contract he has glasses and a hat but he has no deep scar as when he's in the Zearth, I thought this was an animation mistake but rereading the manga it's also like that, an even in the second chapter it's as if the author deliberately faces kokopelli towards the side of his scar in every drawing. Unsure if this has been discussed before. As for "uninstall"... Spoiler: guessing from one of the later discussions of Dung Beetle, and considering most of the other parts of the song fit into the context of the story. It seems very viable that it's related to the story in some shape. The conversation is around when the japanese military are investigating Zearth during I think Komo's arc. Spoiler: For some reason I'm getting vibes that they're playing some kind of advanced simulation (they even went to showing kokopelli's computers being destroyed unlike the manga iirc or even kokopelli shrugging when one of the kids says crush the core.), I mean the story would lose it's edge/become tiring when they finally killed off all the kids who originally made the contract. Otherwise, the anime is fine so far.

2007-04-12, 20:45	Link #145
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Yeah, i noticed a lot of people were talking about the manga. Oh, and thanks for the link to the manga thread, i completely forgot about that. :3 __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2007-04-12, 22:10	Link #146
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Bokurano. The Game When I found out that Bokurano was adapted from the manga, published by the same author of Narutaru, and reading on the New Anime Announce thread about the upcoming anime I immediately marked it on my list of most expecting shows for this Spring season. With a smile on my face I can only say that GONZO did a good job at handling the beginning of the story. Not only did they give time to introduce all of their children and have a prologue scoop on their characters' traits but also alloted the enough time to display how the game works and what is the premise to the game. Unlike Narutaru, Bokurano actually starts with a grim storm coming from the horizon about the premonition of bad things to come. It is really impossible for me to remember each of the children's names as for now, but if they plan this series for thirteen episodes then in no way there are going to go far with developing the characters. Instead, the staff would have to focus on just the story about the children's growth and experiences while they start to play the game in order to make it alive. In one word to how I am describing Bokurano is GANTZ but instead of killing aliens with skin suits and hi-tech weapons, giant robots are piloted to crush alien mecha robots. And there's a fix set of players, unlike GANTZ. Lastly, the imperative difference to GANTZ is that all the children came to the game alive. But it is interesting for me to point out that the way the teleportation occurs when the robots dissappear and reappear poses the similar effect when the Gantzers are teleporting in and outside the game. Just like Narutaru, Bokurano begins one with a stand-on about the children's views on the world. Maybe the world is already rotten to some... Maybe to others the world would eventually rot.... Or maybe the world would be rotten by the adults so it makes no difference if anyone of them contributes to ruin it or not. I have a feeling that I saw another character resembling Kokopelli in another show, but the images in my mind are very blur and cannot recall them well. I expect both good and bad things about Bokurano. Unlike Gantz, there was no signs of violence per se, but if it is from Narutaru's author, then I expect the violence to be more psychological than visceral. That is the type of violence and hallucination that messes with our imaginations and fears to leave us hanging what f*** really happens when someone dies. BTW, the opening song, Uninstall, and footage are very likeable since to me I am feeling Evangelion -esque vibes from within them.

2007-04-13, 05:33	Link #147
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	Alright, so I watched it. Definitely a very solid Gonzo production, but what with the equally impressive Romeo x Juliet I have a feeling the budget's going to go thataway and not here (since here the story could possibly hold it up rather than the Prettiness). Firstly... I was blown away by the backgrounds, really, they were extremely outstanding I had to say. It was the most obvious "ooh" factor for me, and I suppose it helps that the characters were extremely well placed against them. Gonzo's composite department is it's strongest point after all, I think... But aside from that, there's a lot you could say about the characters/story - I think I'll refrain from it here because it looks like something that could go very many places from here. It's just that I have to say I'm not exactly sold yet, because with this kind of story my personal annoyances with particular characters can really get into the way. And I have to say while the dialogue did sound suitably kiddish in some parts, in others it just felt a little uh... forced or something. Especially when the kids were in the cockpit, I dunno what it was that irked me slightly but... At any rate even if the anime becomes really unbearable or I can't stand watching certain characters once a week, perhaps I'll read the manga and marathon it (I could stand Uninhabited Planet Survive that way!) The animation was nothing... omgjawdropamazing, IMO, but pretty good nonetheless. I got a feeling that there was close attention to light and shadow and it lent a very finished touch to the animation despite the Kitoh's simple designs. From episode 2's preview I'm already starting to worry about how well the animation would be kept up though, looking at the lines and stuff. Speaking of the staff - Spoiler for long diatribe: I was very pleasantly surprised to see Erukin Kawabata as the assistant director for this! Good job - I loved his Speed Grapher ep, and he's done some admirable effort in NHK ni Youkoso (he did a few one-man shows, didn't he?). I've heard he's one of the up and comings at Gonzo, and it's really heartening to see him under someone good like Morita here; am looking forward to see what he can do here. Another surprise was Kazuyoshi Yaginuma as the 演出チーフ. Interesting they have this role here again - it's very hard to translate in English. Enshutsu is like the technical direction but separate from actual direction, it's like he seems to oversee the enshutsu in each episode (perhaps in the same way an overall animation director may oversee the animation directing per episode?). The last time I saw it was in Blood+ which IMO had rather bleh enshutsu, but I have faith in Yaginuma. Have you guys seen his Tsukiyo no Ban released by Studio 4C? It's a music video with a disturbing loli and some pretty lovely colouring and images (aside from the disturbing loli). I'm totally thinking that the colour design for the children in the cockpit MUST have been his choice - it reminds me very much of Tsukiyo no Ban with those lovely half-pastelly and slightly otherwordly colours. Coincidentially, the face shape and design of the characters fits quite well with Yaginuma's drawing style. I think if you google him up a bit you can find his web page, check it out when you can Oh oh oh, and I have to do a little tap-dance here because Norio Matsumoto was in the OP . Spoiler for more diatribe: After NHK ni Youkoso, which I think was his first Gonzo job, he's here now! Among the loads of pretty Spring shows is this going to be his pick? I would be excited to see more of his stuff! Speaking of NHK ni Youkoso, 1. I noticed Shingo Natsume, another animator whom I started noticing from that show, in the credits for this ep. I get a feeling we'll get to see an episode animation directed by him, but let's just see... Since we have Matsumoto, will we get the <3 combination of Matsumoto and Tetsuya Takeuchi from ep 24 of NHK? Ooh... 2. The beach + Daisuke Sakaguchi's voice was totally reminding me of NHK ni Youkoso! Argh. I ended up largely dropping the show after the beach eps though... >_> And speaking of seiyuu, I didn't mind Noto this ep (generally I'm somewhat OK with her although I didn't like her job as Nina), but what really grates on my ears is Daisuke Sakaguchi. Every single job he does... -_- Be it Keel in Tide Line Blue, whashisname from NHK ni Youkoso or Waku here, I have to apologize and say I dislike his voice. Maybe it fits and stuff but I... can't stand it much... Anyway, looking forward to more - with a bit of wariness, I've not read the manga but I hope it doesn't get gratituously emo and too sadistic. Not that I dislike sad things happening but sometimes it gets rather tiring if it goes on and on and you have way too much of the emo-kid syndrome. I'm emo enough as it is, don't need to see much more of it in anime until I get happy again... __________________ Thanks for the fish

2007-04-13, 16:19	Link #154
Lilith Your average fangirl Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.A.E. - Dubai Age: 37	Ep 1 This is not like Digimon? Kids saving the world... I'll keep watching it just to see the reason behind the weird siblings. __________________ I realized I have too many interests/ideas/emotions to convey in one sig.

2007-04-12, 13:06	Link #142
stpehen kisses for all Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ぶちゅー！ Age: 40	Actually, I have to step up and admit, I really hate Mamiko Noto's voice, too. It just sounds so artificially breathy and fake to me.

2007-04-13, 09:53	Link #149
FatPianoBoy Dansa med oss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky Age: 36	Guys, seriously - this thread is borderline useless if you haven't read the manga

2007-04-13, 11:40	Link #150
Impz Insanity Anime Blogger Join Date: Oct 2006	I don't think so. I think the anime experience is often very different compared to the manga. In a way, the story does become interesting, for a non manga reader like me, who watches the series much earlier due to me watching raws/chinese subs faster than those who watch english subs. You do not need the manga to discuss. p/s: Blogging this series is hell fun

2007-04-13, 16:07	Link #153
piccu Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Planet Otaku Age: 32	Gonzo did an excellent job with Bokurano! At first I really had some doubts about it, but I'm REALLY impressed!! Two of my most expected anime this Season are made by Gonzo (Bokurano & Romeo x Juliet). The animation is fitting and the music is good; It's great how they built up the atmosphere of the episode and the OP Unistall is epic win! This one is my favourite Spring 2007 anime!