2013-04-04, 22:32 | Link #4123 |
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1) Is there a difference between A and B when it comes to stuff like:
Battle Continuation Madness Enhancement They look like they are saying the same thing. 2) Is it my imagination or the Archer class Noble Phantasm is exceptional? Hundred Heads, UBW, Gate of Babylon...
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2013-04-04, 23:01 | Link #4124 |
Manus ad Ferrum
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On the Archer class I think is because so far we haven’t seen an actual archer. We see people who fire lots of things at the same time and only one of them has been actually using a bow. Even so EMIYA does use two swords as his main weapons. So really will be more like the Archer Class Servant is meant to be never summoning a proper archer. I mean Lancer has a spear, Saber a sword but an Archer with a bow? That is just silly
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2013-04-05, 04:39 | Link #4126 |
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Because archers are summoned with physical optimization to be a ranged combatant. Caster is a similar case where they only fire ranged. The only difference is the manner in which they create these ranged attacks. The Archers use their noble phantasms and the casters use their magic.
Asking an Archer to be purely reliant on their physical capabilities to win in the holy grail war is like asking a gunfighter to win in a martial arts tournament featuring the world champs of every other hand to hand discipline in the world. Even if hercules were to be summoned as archer, I doubt he'd be as strong as his berserker form. His physical strength would probably drop to B instead of A and his other parameters would get similar modifications. At least that is my impression of the grail's servant class system. |
2013-04-05, 12:22 | Link #4132 |
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Not just nine lives either, archer Herc got given some NP by Nasu that let him beat the Hydra pretty easily, it was something like shooting so many arows at once that it destroyed (yes destroyed not just hit, like as in "Kaboom") all of it's 100 heads at once killing it, the common opinion is that Herc just sits in the Einzbern Castle and uses that on anyone walking by and wins the war with ease.
And yeah max we get the Archer in extra that everyone would expect to be an Archer so he's a proper one alright |
2013-04-05, 13:20 | Link #4134 |
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Herc would probably be worse as a Saber as he's keep his Legendary strength.
Archer Herc might get a nasty anti-army NP (detroying 100 heads would probably count as anti-army than anything else), but Saber Herc? Ouch.
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2013-04-08, 15:54 | Link #4138 |
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That chain Gilgamesh uses is actually really bad. It only works with divine blood. So Servants like Hercules, Lancer or Iskandar will never be able to break free because they have some level of divinity. But for the other Servants the chain will be just a normal chain, not a super awesome antigod device. Or so I hear.
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