The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

Not to beat this subject into the ground again, but I think that this pic would also represent Kyon's height related to Haruhi...

I have proof if needed...

Proof is needed. The anime version, at last, has their difference much smaller. Itou Noizi makes Kyon bigger (or Haruhi smaller) though. So is hard to tell.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Kyon is bigger in Itou's artwork. He's almost the same height as Itsuki.

[CrowKenobi]

As they say, proof is in the pudding!



Taken from episode 2, 2006 version btw...

[Heatth]

And then we have:



From Live a Live, if I am not mistaken.

The difference between the two is still smaler then Haruki and Kyonko on that image, however (she is just under his chew in your image).


Haruhi powers are really awesome, it can even change people height. I wonder how shenever noticed.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Kyonko is a bit shorter than Haruhi, and Haruki's a bit taller than Kyon. The math'll work itself out.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

As they say, proof is in the pudding!



Taken from episode 2, 2006 version btw...

Thanks for the pic.

If you drew a straight horizontal line stretching across the very top of Haruhi's head in that pic, it would cut straight through Kyon's chin, leaving him with out a jaw.

In the Kyonko/Haruki pic, Kyonko's head doesn't even reach up to Haruki's chin with out him leaning over.


But, anyway, it's probably time to drop this debate (I'd encourage you to do so too, Heatth)... it's become crystal clear to me what the Anime Suki Haruhi fan community likes to, and doesn't like to, talk about.


wittyusername made that abundantly frank...

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

Kyonko is a bit shorter than Haruhi, and Haruki's a bit taller than Kyon. The math'll work itself out.

Not with my image... That math would make the be more like Crow's.

PP:

Originally Posted by Triple_R

But, anyway, it's probably time to drop this debate (I'd encourage you to do so too, Heatth)... it's become crystal clear to me what the Anime Suki Haruhi fan community likes to, and doesn't like to, talk about.

I think you are being unfair. While I do think is time to drop the debate (and have done so before Crow's post) I believe we are having a pretty nice discussion here. We even have have reached a agreement. Nobody disagree with the comparative height Danchou have posted (and I reposted) so far right?

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by Heatth

Not with my image... That math would make the be more like Crow's.

Since the pics are realistically six months apart, Haruhi could've had a small growth spurt in the meantime...

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

But, anyway, it's probably time to drop this debate (I'd encourage you to do so too, Heatth)... it's become crystal clear to me what the Anime Suki Haruhi fan community likes to, and doesn't like to, talk about.

It's nothing personal... it's just that the topics all come up once every month or so. Judging from how it hasn't popped up in a while, I'd say Kyonko's chest size will be the next one.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Heatth

I think you are being unfair. While I do think is time to drop the debate (and have done so before Crow's post) I believe we are having a pretty nice discussion here. We even have have reached a agreement. Nobody disagree with the comparative height Danchou have posted (and I reposted) so far right?

You're right. Nothing wrong with comparing images.

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

It's nothing personal... it's just that the topics all come up once every month or so. Judging from how it hasn't popped up in a while, I'd say Kyonko's chest size will be the next one.

Well, for what it's worth, I'm perfectly cool with Kyonko's chest size.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

Since the pics are realistically six months apart, Haruhi could've had a small growth spurt in the meantime...

So now we should discuss their height at each time period?

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

It's nothing personal... it's just that the topics all come up once every month or so. Judging from how it hasn't popped up in a while, I'd say Kyonko's chest size will be the next one.

Don't give ideas

Anyway, as I said, it would be good define now, for the VN. And, again, only the comparative height is necessery. Eact numbers don't work at all. For exemple, Kyon is taller then Haruhi, so both images fit. We just need to decide the comparative height of the two brigades.

Again, does anyone have anything against Danchou post?

PP:
The good with the bust size is it is hard co compare. So we just need to know that Itsuko is busty and Kyonko is flat.

Unless we are doing a H game... But this idea was droped a while ago right?

[swtrooper42]

I think that got dropped. But we could maybe throw in good old PG-13 rated sex for any plot reasons.

[Joe4evr]

Originally Posted by Heatth

Actually, the artist are already drawing the sprites. So it is better settle it now.

I only used it because that's another thing that's repeated in this thread, not as a reply against the height issues.

Also, I think I dreamt of Kyonko last night.

[swtrooper42]

Lucky. All I get recently are zombies and Altaïr from Assassin's Creed.
I gotta cut down on the games and pick up on the anime.

And then we have:

Spoiler for Image:

From Live a Live, if I am not mistaken.

Ah, those we the days.

[Joe4evr]

Originally Posted by swtrooper42

Lucky. All I get recently are zombies and Altaïr from Assassin's Creed.

Lol. Also, I recall seeing Kyon too, but he had Light's haircut -more or less- for some reason.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Kyon: ... Keikaku doori...

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Joe4evr

I only used it because that's another thing that's repeated in this thread, not as a reply against the height issues.

Also, I think I dreamt of Kyonko last night.

Oh, I see. Sorry.

Heh, was a good dream?

[vivify93]

I dreamed about Kyonko, but she murdered me.

Thanks, Kaisos!

[swtrooper42]

Originally Posted by vivify93

I dreamed about Kyonko, but she murdered me.

Thanks, Kaisos!

Dream on the year that one. But did you like it?

Strangely enough, I haven't died in a dream since I was eight and falling off a cliff. I'll take that as a good sign.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by vivify93

Thanks, Kaisos!

No problem.

Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4: Morning- Dispute:

Dispute


When I get to the shoe lockers, however, I encounter a problem.

There’s a person with her hand inside my locker, in the process of removing my indoor shoes.


Kyon: Oi!

Girl: Hmm…? Gah!


[CUE KYONKO CG AND ITSUMO NO FUUKEI]

She’s short, about Nagato’s build and height… aside from her ponytail and slightly rumpled uniform, she doesn’t really stand out. If you were to give her a role in a movie, she'd be cast as Girl A. She also looks surprised to see me, for some reason.

But that’s not what’s important right now!


Kyon: Exactly what do you think you’re doing?

Girl A: W-What does it look like I’m doing? I’m getting my shoes out of my locker.

Kyon: No, you’re getting my shoes out of my locker.

Girl A: …You sure you haven’t misplaced your locker or something? Couldn’t it be in the next row over?

Kyon: I come to this locker twice every day. I’ve memorized its position. I can say with one hundred percent certainty that this is my locker.

Girl A: Okay, it’s your locker, fine. But are you sure these are your shoes?

Kyon: What?

---
IF Gremlins=True THEN


Girl A: Maybe the, um, Shoe Gremlins moved them around during the night.


I… what? What is this? I don’t even…


Girl A: No, never mind, that’s stupid.

---

ELSE


Girl A: Say, maybe someone switched your shoes with mine during the night?

Kyon: …Who does things like that?


Well, I know at least one person…


Girl A: Well, I know at least one person…


You too?!

---


Kyon: Look, in any case, if those shoes aren’t mine, they’re clearly not yours. Just by looking at them, I can tell they’re way too big for your feet.

Girl A: …Are you calling me short?

Kyon: Yes…?

Girl A: Well, yeah, I guess that’s true… anyway, these shoes still have a chance of not being your shoes. I don’t see your name on them.

Kyon: Who even writes their name on their indoor shoes?


Well, I know at least one person…


Girl A: Well, I know at least one person…


You too?!


Kyon: In any case, we appear to be approaching a deadlock here…

Girl A: Yes, I agree.

Kyon: …

Girl A: …


She suddenly grabs the shoes, turns around, and tries to run away. I, lunging for the only thing I can reach, grab hold of her ponytail. A shame, that.


Kyon: Gotcha!

Girl A: Aggggh my hair let go you lummox!


In a few seconds, the shoes are in my hands and she’s standing in front of me, looking understandably upset.


Girl A: Alright, fine, I admit it, I don’t have any indoor shoes.

Kyon: Why not?

Girl A: It’s kind of a long story, to be honest.


You too?! Wait, that doesn’t make any sense.


Kyon: …You know, they have slippers for visitors. You could probably just borrow a pair of those.

Girl A: What, and stand out like a sore thumb? No thank you.

Kyon: …I see what you mean, but it’s getting late, and…


The bell goes off.


Kyon: Like I was saying.


I don’t have time for this.


[DECISION POINT HERE]

1) Look, just, take the shoes.
2) Be seeing you, then.
[IF HijackTrigger > 6 THEN]
3) Don’t you think you should be finding smaller shoes…?


Tripping Up


Kyon: Look, please, just take the shoes and be done with it.

Girl A: …Wait, really? Thanks!


She takes off her outdoor shoes and slips on my indoor ones. I was right, they are way too big for her.

Girl A hands me her outdoor shoes with a “Well, I’ll leave these with you” and heads off into the school… where she promptly trips, and falls flat on her face.


Kyon: …You sure you don’t want those visitor’s slipper?

Girl A: Go to hell!


Sigh… well, I suppose I should grab some slippers of my own and head to class.


[Scene: Classroom]

I quietly slipped into class, making apologetic motions at Okabe-sensei, who merely rolled his eyes and continued talking.

Haruhi, however…


Haruhi: …I think this is the latest you’ve ever been.

Kyon: Long story.

Haruhi: …Wait, why are you wearing visitor’s slippers?

Kyon: Sssh. It’s class time.


For that line, I received a mechanical pencil to the neck.

…?

I get the feeling that someone’s watching me.

I look over at the door just as I see it slide shut. I also see a flash of brown hair.

It’s Girl A. What is she doing?

…

Another poke from the mechanical pencil redirects my attention to where it should be.



Why Am I the Thief?

I slip off my outdoor shoes and shove them into my shoe locker.


Kyon: Well then, best be going.


I say as I slip on my indoor shoes.


Girl A: Wh--? Hey, I’m not done talking to you yet!

Kyon: Bye.


Now, let’s just head to class.


Girl A: G-get back here, you thief!


You’re one to talk, Girl A.


[Scene: Classroom]

I quietly slipped into class, making apologetic motions at Okabe-sensei, who merely rolled his eyes and continued talking.

Haruhi, however…


Haruhi: …I think this is the latest you’ve ever been.

Kyon: Sssh. It’s class time.


For that line, I received a mechanical pencil to the neck.

…?

I get the feeling that someone’s watching me.

I look over at the door just as I see it slide shut. I also see a flash of brown hair.

It’s Girl A. What is she doing?

…

Another poke from the mechanical pencil redirects my attention to where it should be.


Caution


Kyon: …Look, I would give you these shoes, but… they’re way too big for you. Let’s find you another pair, quickly?

Girl A: Who else is going to be this late?


Well, I can think of… no, we’ve driven that gag into the ground already.

I quickly start flipping open shoe lockers, looking for a pair of as-yet untaken indoor shoes. I manage to find a pair of the appropriate size among the second-year lockers. I barely register the name scrawled inside them as beginning with “Tsuru-“ before Girl A takes them from me.


Kyon: …You don’t mind pretending to be my senpai for today?

Girl A: No, no, not at all. Thanks for the help.


She hands me my indoor shoes. Why did this feel like blackmail?


Kyon: …It’s no trouble at all.


We separate at the bottom of the stairs… wait, where is she going, anyway?


Girl A: See you around, and thanks!


Her ponytail moves up and down as she walks away.

…Huh.


[Scene: Classroom]

I quietly slipped into class, making apologetic motions at Okabe-sensei, who merely rolled his eyes and continued talking.

Haruhi, however…


Haruhi: …I think this is the latest you’ve ever been.

Kyon: Sssh. It’s class time.


For that line, I received a mechanical pencil to the neck.

…?

I get the feeling that someone’s watching me.

I look over at the door just as I see it slide shut. I also see a flash of brown hair.

It’s Girl A. What is she doing?

…

Another poke from the mechanical pencil redirects my attention to where it should be.

This scene requires a bit of explanation.

These are the classroom scenes you get if you don't talk to Itsuko. The next one I'm posting in a few minutes is the one you get if you do.

Regardless, they all lead to the next scene, which is a Kyonko scene, "Peering In".