2011-09-25, 23:34 | Link #4301 | |
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when someone says combat in animated form I hope he means something as good as this or that. |
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2011-09-26, 00:10 | Link #4302 | |
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2011-09-26, 07:34 | Link #4303 | |
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The limitation is in the medium itself. Whereas the animated version of Fairy Tail shows much more animated version of the fights, that make it easier to see how the fight goes. With a manga, you cannot get any real sense of how much time passes between each panel. To bring this back to Force, you can see it in the arguments over Deville's teleporting. We don't know how fast he was and what he did. We don't know from what directions people came in. We can't tell how fast Fate is. We're not exactly sure what kind of speed Karen used to take out Hayate Vita and Erio, and how that went down. Are there bad animated fights, too? Of course. It's just that, generally speaking, an animated fight is going to be more animated and give you more information, thus it will be more complete and easier/better to follow. As I said, I accept the limitation of the medium, and it's partially why I hope Force gets animated. I do like some fights in manga, but that's because we like the emotions the plot has developed in us up to the point, so it is satisfying to see it happen. But it pales in comparison to an animated fight, as far as details/information conveyed. |
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2011-09-26, 10:11 | Link #4304 |
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Or maybe it's just that Force's artist doesn't really know how to draw action scenes. Not everything is 'limitations of the media'. It can just be a flaw of the story. The whole reason I said Force had bad fights was because most of them so far are anticlimaxes or pointless, which is hardly a problem shared by most manga.
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2011-09-26, 10:16 | Link #4305 |
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Agreed on this one, we can't put the entire blame of the medium because there are various examples of greatly executed manga fights. Some of those examples are even from other Nanoha manga which only puts more on evidence Force's lacking on that area.
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2011-09-26, 11:16 | Link #4310 | |
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2011-09-26, 11:25 | Link #4311 |
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5 minutes until Namek explodes!
Anyways, manga is comprised of static images, so of course action scenes aren't going to come across that well. All mangas can do is show cause and effect, point A to point B. It's up to the reader to fill in what happened in between. We see Guts raise his sword, and in the next panel his sword is pointing down and blood sprays from the chest of his opponent. It's quite clear what just happened even if we don't see the sword actually fall.
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2011-09-26, 15:12 | Link #4313 | |
The Flame Crussader
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Classic xD
I was about to answer "are they still on Ruwella?" but fortunately the sotry have finally moved from there. Quote:
Of the three artist working in the Nanoha franchise the original(MOVIE 1st, StrikerS and A's mangas) is still the best to me qwhe it comes to fight scenes. His desings are simple but well executed.
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2011-09-26, 15:30 | Link #4314 | |
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2011-09-26, 20:56 | Link #4315 | |
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Well, if we're going talk about action and dialogue not always being necessary, and that sometimes all you need are facial expressions with a good artist, then I bring you the following
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(if you haven't done so, go read Chrono Crusade already) On the other hand, I know that comics have serious trouble expressing their fights well. But that's why I hold Tekken Chimni, and Vinland Saga, and Soul Eater, and the Immortal Iron Fist (Busiek ftw!) in such high regards. (Even if TC is sloooooooow as hell and VS has gone on the mother of all side roads.) So erm Force and poker cards. Curren is the Queen, Nanoha is the Ace, Touma would be the Jack, we're still waiting for the Joker and the King to be introduced? EDIT: Quote:
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2011-09-26, 22:47 | Link #4317 |
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Eclipse Drivers with a bomb in their head ?!
Wow ! Just WOW ! I wonder how S6 will take that when they face those... All their work for capturing them alive would just go out the windom. Can`t say I saw that one coming.
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