2013-04-22, 05:27 | Link #1263 | |
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Sasha... I just don't know what to say about her... anime version or manga version, she's still crazy. Was a bit afraid they would remove the scene with Chrisa and that other girl and their interactions with Sasha. Glad they kept it. Now next up we get some stuff that focuses on Annie! Yeah!
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2013-04-22, 06:08 | Link #1264 |
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Horror Fantasy Tragedy These are the four tags best fit for this show and it stays true to them. That is all I'm gonna say about that. Last edited by Randrak42; 2013-04-22 at 06:31. |
2013-04-22, 11:05 | Link #1267 |
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anyway, I would like to pick up from what I posted on page 48 (I think) Rather than talk about how people could've just lived in caves/tunnels and plant food on the surface, I was thinking more along the lines of what happened in episode 1 and 2. Was it really hard to dig at least one escape tunnel from the middle of the town into inside wall maria? that way most people would've had somewhere to go in cases of emergencies. Although i get the effect they wanted to convey when they showed people panicking and running around when the titans finally breached the wall, didn't they have the foresight to at least have one proper escape plan rather than just telling people to run for the ships and the gates? We saw that the ships were not enough to carry all the people in the town to the inner area. Was it really hard to make a bunker near the escape routes so that people won't be eaten while waiting for the ships to return? based on what was shown, if even 1 titan was near the ships when eren/mikasa were trying to board, people won't have anywhere to hide and will just have to wait to be eaten. Yeah sure, we could say that "there haven't been a titan attack inside the walls for 100 years" so they haven't thought about these, but putting the questions on how the wall was built and where people lived before it was built aside, can't they at least have all the houses in town dig a small tunnel/basement where they can pass through underground until they are near the gates of the inner wall? this is assuming that the foundations of the walls are so deep that they can't dig under them. can't they just make tunnels up until right next to the wall? that way nobody will be eaten, and the titans AFAIK can't dig out people to eat them (like ants in an anthill.) lastly, it was said that the purposes of the towns on the periphery of wall maria was to draw titans so that the main walls could be lightly defended, if they built the town with that in mind, i'm surprised that they didn't think of an evacuation plan once one of those titans finally goes through the wall. its not like they're not expecting it at all. anyway, rant over. |
2013-04-22, 11:22 | Link #1268 | |
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2013-04-22, 11:38 | Link #1272 | |
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I actually I don't think the issue wasn't not having enough ships either, but rather the Armored Titan destroying the gate before everyone else could finish escaping. That Titan seem to have far more strength, speed and intelligence than the others which is beyond what evacuation procedures were prepared for. |
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2013-04-22, 11:39 | Link #1273 | ||
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From Ep1, we already have the impression that people weren't very happy to be "throwing away" their taxes on futile reconnaissance missions beyond Wall Maria. So, it's not difficult to imagine that people being leery about spending money on underground fortifications that they didn't seem to need. Of course, everything changed once Wall Maria was breached. But hindsight is always 20/20. Then, there's hubris. The Titanic had enough lifeboats for only one-third of its total capacity. Even then, those lifeboats were considered extraneous at the time, because the ship was touted to be "unsinkable". Well, again, hindsight is always 20/20, is it not? The above is just me trying to rationalise the story's premise. I understand your criticisms, but let's just put them down to details that the mangaka didn't think through very thoroughly. Quote:
I would guess that the contingency, in case a "pocket town" like Shiganshina (there were 12 in total, four on the perimeter of each Wall) falls, would be to funnel the invading titans along a single route and a single exit (not counting the river). Again, in theory, this would allow the soldiers to maximise their stretched resources, as they would need to defend only one axis of movement. Evidently, the military planners did not consider how such a design could also turn into a deathtrap should a breach occur. More likely than not, though, they never expected a Wall to fall so quickly — no one knew that colossal- and armoured-class titans existed, so no one planned for them. That's the way complacency works. And if you find that hard to believe, remember that even in real-life, armies the world over are being trained to fight the previous war. It's not that no one knows that future warfare would be different, but when you don't know exactly it would look, it's difficult to devise effective training routines to meet a "future" threat. |
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well, it was vividly shown that inner area citizens really consider people from the outer towns to be a drain to their resources so poor planning and complacency on their part is understandable. but for those living on the "bait" towns and the outer areas, i find it hard to believe that they haven't done anything else to ensure their survival by themselves other than relying on the walls. In the end I guess I agree with the explanation that they didn't expect the colossal and the armored titan to breach the wall so quickly, that's why they were caught off guard. I still wonder about that explosion before the colossal titan showed up though. I guess it will be revealed later. |
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2013-04-22, 12:27 | Link #1277 |
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You are talking as if there aren't escape routes or escape plans. There are at least two of them. While they were expecting titans to attack and they were prepared to a remote possibility of titan invasion they were certainly not prepared to a blitzkrieg. Nobody suspected that a gate could be breached that quickly. At least not the normal population for what we've seen.
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2013-04-22, 12:35 | Link #1278 | ||
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As totoum observed, that might not be far from the truth. It's clear that the refugees were considered a burden. And human life is cheap when a kingdom can afford to throw away 250,000 people it could no longer feed. |
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