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nubby · 2008-11-23, 05:12

This is ridiculous! How can Patrick be alive? He was shot point blank and I think his mech blew up.

Seibee · 2008-11-23, 05:13

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This is ridiculous! How can Patrick be alive? He was shot point blank and I think his mech blew up.

That's why they call him 'Immortal'

nubby · 2008-11-23, 05:15

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That's why they call him 'Immortal'

He doesn't even have any scars.........wow.

LoweGear · 2008-11-23, 05:15

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This is ridiculous! How can Patrick be alive? He was shot point blank and I think his mech blew up.

1. He wasn't shot point blank. Point blank would mean he was shot only a few inches away, which is obviously not the case.

2. His GN-X's torso blew up, however the GN-X's cockpit is located on the crotch as shown many times, and that was shown to be very much intact when his GN-X drifted away.

3. 00F confirmed months before that Patrick was alive and unhurt inside the cockpit.

Hence, despite the mock bright light and the wreck scene Patrick is logically still very much alive.

Principalities · 2008-11-23, 05:16

I am sooo confused. The first few pics clearly shows a girl Tieria but in the later scenes he/she is a guy again..... Do we have a girl Meister or not?

Kudos for return of the Immortal Colasour and debuts of Revive Revival & Healing Care.

pingva · 2008-11-23, 05:17

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This is ridiculous! How can Patrick be alive? He was shot point blank and I think his mech blew up.

The cockpit of GN-X is in the crotch. Patrick wasn't dead, because his cockpit was intact. In season one last episode you can see Patrick behind Kati in the line up of federation army. And look at the scenes with Sergei and GN-X.

Spoiler:

AnymX · 2008-11-23, 05:18

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This is ridiculous! How can Patrick be alive? He was shot point blank and I think his mech blew up.

That real is no surprise. We could see him in the end of the first season standing with the rest of the bunch of federations solders.

Kaioshin Sama · 2008-11-23, 05:30

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That real is no surprise. We could see him in the end of the first season standing with the rest of the bunch of federations solders.

Yeah but some people are probably either going to conveniently forget that or just plain not care so that we can get another "lol Sunrise'd" argument going. I mean it's already been dealt with in the side story manga as well so by all rights it's a non-issue. Not only that, but there was also the fact that Tiera's shot clearly, but just barely missed the cockpit of Patrick's GN-X (the part where Patrick's immortal luck comes in) which established plausible deniability as opposed to Kira's survival in Gundam Seed after the Strike Gundam blew up in it's entirety and which relied entirely on the Astray manga to clarify what happened (and it's still not a very believable explanation). The double whammy of an in series confirmation as to his survival and the manga's supplement to what happened make any argument as to him being resurrected out of nowhere flimsy at best.

Charred Knight · 2008-11-23, 05:34

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Yeah but some people are probably either going to conveniently forget that or just plain not care so that we can get another "lol Sunrise'd" argument going. I mean it's already been dealt with in the side story manga as well so by all rights it's a non-issue. Not only that, but there was also the fact that Tiera's shot clearly, but just barely missed the cockpit of Patrick's GN-X (the part where Patrick's immortal luck comes in) which established plausible deniability as opposed to Kira's survival in Gundam Seed after the Strike Gundam blew up in it's entirety and which relied entirely on the Astray manga to clarify what happened (and it's still not a very believable explanation). The double whammy of an in series confirmation as to his survival and the manga's supplement to what happened make any argument as to him being resurrected out of nowhere flimsy at best.

I thought you would go for a Mu reference

Shiroth · 2008-11-23, 05:51

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I am sooo confused. The first few pics clearly shows a girl Tieria but in the later scenes he/she is a guy again..... Do we have a girl Meister or not?

No that is Tieria in the dress, and it is possible for him to go undress/take the wig off, and back into the suit you know.

LoweGear · 2008-11-23, 05:53

On why Tieria disguised as a girl...

Spoiler for Explanation:

Shiroth · 2008-11-23, 05:59

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Spoiler for Explanation:

We so know the real reason is because Sumeragi loves Turn A Gundam.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-11-23, 06:00

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This is ridiculous! How can Patrick be alive? He was shot point blank and I think his mech blew up.

Patrick's been in the OP for the last eight episodes. You haven't noticed even now?

ReddyRedWolf · 2008-11-23, 06:15

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Though I have to say the same thing, I said when Saji and Setsuna met: It's strange, that they remember those people they barely met several years ago.

Well Louise did call Setsuna a jerk and wanted Saji to punch him. When she was crying because mom left for home. Which Setsuna commented it isn't as if she died.

Innocent times.

Tkpenalty · 2008-11-23, 06:21

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If Arche had a MA mode this ep, I didn't see it.

Spoiler for Arche Montage:

How about an AMBAC-like flight mode? Cause it surely looks like that.

Man the suit reminds me of Aegis Gundam. Ali's probably a super soldier as well now.

LoweGear · 2008-11-23, 06:28

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It's strange, that they remember those people they barely met several years ago.

Apparently, Setsuna was surprised Louise even remembered, to which Louise explained that she remembered because his name was very strange.

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How about an AMBAC-like flight mode? Cause it surely looks like that.

What is an AMBAC-like flight mode anyway? Not really sure what you're talking about

Tokkan · 2008-11-23, 06:36

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Apparently, Setsuna was surprised Louise even remembered, to which Louise explained that she remembered because his name was very strange.

Haha. Saji even said "Seiei" was a strange name the moment he first met Setsuna.

Seibee · 2008-11-23, 06:45

Love how Se-chan ended up face-to-face with the one person at the party who'd recognise him for what he is. Just the sort of coincidence you don't want...

(Yeah, Ribbons would have known, but he probably wouldn't have cared.)

Shiroth · 2008-11-23, 06:49

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Still doesn't explain, why he remembered her.

Setsuna being around Saji has probably reminded him of the few times he spent with him, meaning that he'd remember Louise. That's how i see it anyway.

Goodie · 2008-11-23, 06:51

Interesting episode... lots of dialouge so :/ (for me at least)

I'm hoping we got more of an information dump about aeola's real plan here though.

http://goodiemania.org/2008/11/gunda...n-2-episode-8/ <--- images (shots of ali's mech at the end)

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LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	On why Tieria disguised as a girl... Spoiler for Explanation: Supposedly, Sumeragi came up with the plan. Since people expect Gundam Meisters to be male, being a female further throws people's suspicions off track. __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

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Goodie Member Join Date: Oct 2008	Interesting episode... lots of dialouge so :/ (for me at least) I'm hoping we got more of an information dump about aeola's real plan here though. http://goodiemania.org/2008/11/gunda...n-2-episode-8/ <--- images (shots of ali's mech at the end) -Goodie Last edited by Goodie; 2008-11-23 at 07:05.

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nubby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boston, MA	This is ridiculous! How can Patrick be alive? He was shot point blank and I think his mech blew up.

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Principalities Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	I am sooo confused. The first few pics clearly shows a girl Tieria but in the later scenes he/she is a guy again..... Do we have a girl Meister or not? Kudos for return of the Immortal Colasour and debuts of Revive Revival & Healing Care.

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Seibee Mwu Fangirl Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United Kingdom	Love how Se-chan ended up face-to-face with the one person at the party who'd recognise him for what he is. Just the sort of coincidence you don't want... (Yeah, Ribbons would have known, but he probably wouldn't have cared.)