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LeaD36 · 2011-03-11, 22:02

This chapter didn't have much of an impact on me, must be because it was filled with Hiramaru to save the day obv.

lordshadowisle · 2011-03-11, 22:13

Same, I'm not feeling the love for this chapter. Nanamine was defeated too quickly, and he didn't even act like a worthy adversary (Let's keep overlapping with PCP! Yeah that'll work). It kind of demeans the value of the conflict altogether.

I liked it though when he tried his final scheme and failed. It really portrayed him as a pathetic character.

Nightengale · 2011-03-11, 22:16

Reading this chapter made me really miss Fukuda.

It was always him to knew how to up the stakes and still keep a strong and honest professionalism and sportsmanship to any rivalry drama.

kakakka · 2011-03-11, 22:26

TBH, I liked how sudden they made Nanamine fall. It made those previous chapters easier to accept.

Claies · 2011-03-12, 00:03

What the... I didn't expect Shounen Jump to be out due to the earthquake. Guess the show must go on.

5+ chapters of setup, and Nanamine fell from the crown in like 15 pages. Isn't that a little too quick? I honestly expected just a little more success from his strategy... my impression is that when his crew finally have to branch out the story a bit is when everything might fall apart.

Plus where's all the Team Fukuda commentary? Do they just not care about this obvious "mind game manga series" feud?

On the other hand... we might have yet another joke character up against Hiramaru. No complaints about that.

KLGChaos · 2011-03-12, 00:06

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Originally Posted by Claies

What the... I didn't expect Shounen Jump to be out due to the earthquake. Guess the show must go on.

5+ chapters of setup, and Nanamine fell from the crown in like 15 pages. Isn't that a little too quick? I honestly expected just a little more success from his strategy... my impression is that when his crew finally have to branch out the story a bit is when everything might fall apart.

Plus where's all the Team Fukuda commentary? Do they just not care about this obvious "mind game manga series" feud?

On the other hand... we might have yet another joke character up against Hiramaru. No complaints about that.

This chapter came out Wednesday and the earthquake didn't happen until Friday. Don't know what's going to happen next week, though.

Kafriel · 2011-03-12, 02:04

I think it was pretty good, it proves that a hack mangaka won't get anywhere by stealing ideas from others

Also Nakai VS Hiramaru? My cookies are on the latter^^ Who knows, maybe he will become more than tea friends if he stands up for her, should be awesome.

SoFarGone · 2011-03-12, 02:15

Nakai grin pisses me off. Nanamine falling sooner than I expected.

Shiroth · 2011-03-12, 05:01

Personally i'm glad Nanamine has fallen so quickly. It just goes to show that his methods were going to fail right from the start.

& i hope Nakai leaves again soon. Pages are totally wasted on someone like him.

Nightengale · 2011-03-12, 06:03

Nakai's a pretty good representation of "if you're ugly on the outside, you're probably ugly in the inside too."

It's not a very good generalisation and there are circumstances for otherwise, but for Nakai, his pathetic obese self is reflected by his bitterness, lack of self-reflection, empathy. Rather than put in the efforts he claim he will ( work the farms ) or reflect on where he did wrong, he let sloth and disgust devour himself fat to the cheese.

Divini · 2011-03-12, 06:35

I have to say although I swear he was going to be set up to make comeback in this arc, they still really really really want us to hate Nakai.

I thought he was going be part of the catalyst that would correct Nanamine ways (and he still has a chance at it), but at this rate he's just going to mope around and still be his delusional, ugly self. Didn't everybody, even Aoki, wished for him to get back on his feet and try harder? I don't know, I just can't picture him being redeemed anymore without it being forced. If they weren't planning on redeeming him in the first place... well... that would just be sad.

Stefkov · 2011-03-12, 13:13

I didn't expect Nanamine to fall that quickly. His downfall was when he lied about the first chapter being in 1st place I think.
I loved Hiramaru's appearance. Him and Aoki are an awesome pairing, one I didn't think I'd like at first but I'm getting to like it.
I thought Nakai was going to stop Nanamine from his path but if the failing of his manga makes Nakai disappear quicker then that's much better.

Kanon · 2011-03-12, 14:29

I've seen what I wanted to see. Nakai can go back to his mom now. Yuri-tan and Hiramaru's pinky swear was so adorable~

Nanamine's downfall was very anticlimatic and a bit disappointing. I expected a lot more out of this character. He let his arrogance and pride consume him, and self-destructed, never coming close to truly threatening Ashirogi/PCP once. I'm hoping this isn't the end of him, or else his introduction will have been quite pointless (just like Shizuka's was).

Xagzan · 2011-03-12, 16:19

Osaru's comment upon leaving made me lol. Proud bastard indeed. Gotta wonder what his parents were like, to raise a kid to be an utter rude jackass over manga.

It's remarkable how Nakai was such a sympathetic character when first introduced, but by now O&O have managed to make him so revolting to us. That's good writing.

Irenicus · 2011-03-13, 04:57

I don't get the newbie editor hate people are giving off here. To me he's perfectly realistic and quite sympathetic. He's young, not very confident and he's put together with an author who the senpai at the office are putting a lot of hope in. He doesn't want to blow it because of his own "pride" so he accedes to the headstrong author. Pushover? Maybe. But he's also trying to stand up for his own beliefs a little at a time.

Who knows he could have been a perfectly competent editor with a more compatible author. He does seem to notice earlier than many at the Jump office that he didn't really like Nanamine's work after all.

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Originally Posted by Xagzan

It's remarkable how Nakai was such a sympathetic character when first introduced, but by now O&O have managed to make him so revolting to us. That's good writing.

Eh, I'd say it's rather iffy. Like I'm not sure where the authors want his character to go, or why must we hear more from him.

It's not very hard to make people hate a character. Just let them do horrible things and be a horrible person (like Nakai does and is). It does however leave a question as to why. Bakuman has plenty of perfectly likable, effective "rivals." Like the entire Fukuda team except Ashirogi Muto for starters. Nanamine fills the niche of an antagonistic BUT talented rival (the effectiveness of his character being another issue). Nakai fills...what? The Scrappy? Nobody ever needs Scrappy Doo, ever.

ahelo · 2011-03-13, 05:00

I do like Nanamine getting defeated easily but there was too much Nakai in this episode. God I hate Nakai.

Johnny · 2011-03-19, 19:27

Spoiler for ch 125:

LeaD36 · 2011-03-19, 20:36

This seems to have become a habit of mine :
Hiramaru appeared only briefly again (1page) but he won me over. Reading this manga is like having a few shining golden pages (almost) every chapter, the ones Hiramaru is in^^
I guess Nananime's arc gonna go on for like 2 more chapters, and i'm hoping for some MM development afterwards

HurricaneHige · 2011-03-20, 02:27

Hiramaru is really the highlight of this chapter, overall this arc had really really good setup but the fall and leadup to final conflict is really weak.

Here's to hoping they do something crazy with the 'same theme' battle.

Shiroth · 2011-03-20, 05:08

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHige

Hiramaru is really the highlight of this manga

Fixed that for you.

Yeah i just want the Nananime arc to finish now. At least that front colour cover was all kinds of beautiful.

2011-03-11, 22:16	Link #1843
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	Reading this chapter made me really miss Fukuda. It was always him to knew how to up the stakes and still keep a strong and honest professionalism and sportsmanship to any rivalry drama. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2011-03-12, 05:01	Link #1849
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Personally i'm glad Nanamine has fallen so quickly. It just goes to show that his methods were going to fail right from the start. & i hope Nakai leaves again soon. Pages are totally wasted on someone like him. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2011-03-12, 06:03	Link #1850
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	Nakai's a pretty good representation of "if you're ugly on the outside, you're probably ugly in the inside too." It's not a very good generalisation and there are circumstances for otherwise, but for Nakai, his pathetic obese self is reflected by his bitterness, lack of self-reflection, empathy. Rather than put in the efforts he claim he will ( work the farms ) or reflect on where he did wrong, he let sloth and disgust devour himself fat to the cheese. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2011-03-12, 14:29	Link #1853
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	I've seen what I wanted to see. Nakai can go back to his mom now. Yuri-tan and Hiramaru's pinky swear was so adorable~ Nanamine's downfall was very anticlimatic and a bit disappointing. I expected a lot more out of this character. He let his arrogance and pride consume him, and self-destructed, never coming close to truly threatening Ashirogi/PCP once. I'm hoping this isn't the end of him, or else his introduction will have been quite pointless (just like Shizuka's was). __________________

2011-03-13, 05:00	Link #1856
ahelo Criminal Unrequitor Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2010	I do like Nanamine getting defeated easily but there was too much Nakai in this episode. God I hate Nakai. __________________ Traveler on Revenge / Ahelo Sigs / Saimoe Report! Signature by ganbaru

2011-03-11, 22:02	Link #1841
LeaD36 LeaDfactor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hungary, Budapest Age: 33	This chapter didn't have much of an impact on me, must be because it was filled with Hiramaru to save the day obv.

2011-03-11, 22:13	Link #1842
lordshadowisle Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Singapore	Same, I'm not feeling the love for this chapter. Nanamine was defeated too quickly, and he didn't even act like a worthy adversary (Let's keep overlapping with PCP! Yeah that'll work). It kind of demeans the value of the conflict altogether. I liked it though when he tried his final scheme and failed. It really portrayed him as a pathetic character.

2011-03-11, 22:26	Link #1844
kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	TBH, I liked how sudden they made Nanamine fall. It made those previous chapters easier to accept.

2011-03-12, 00:03	Link #1845
Claies Good-Natured Asshole. Join Date: May 2007 Age: 34	What the... I didn't expect Shounen Jump to be out due to the earthquake. Guess the show must go on. 5+ chapters of setup, and Nanamine fell from the crown in like 15 pages. Isn't that a little too quick? I honestly expected just a little more success from his strategy... my impression is that when his crew finally have to branch out the story a bit is when everything might fall apart. Plus where's all the Team Fukuda commentary? Do they just not care about this obvious "mind game manga series" feud? On the other hand... we might have yet another joke character up against Hiramaru. No complaints about that.

2011-03-12, 02:04	Link #1847
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	I think it was pretty good, it proves that a hack mangaka won't get anywhere by stealing ideas from others Also Nakai VS Hiramaru? My cookies are on the latter^^ Who knows, maybe he will become more than tea friends if he stands up for her, should be awesome.

2011-03-12, 02:15	Link #1848
SoFarGone H.A.M. Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: somewhere on this planet	Nakai grin pisses me off. Nanamine falling sooner than I expected.

2011-03-12, 06:35	Link #1851
Divini Senpai! Join Date: Mar 2007	I have to say although I swear he was going to be set up to make comeback in this arc, they still really really really want us to hate Nakai. I thought he was going be part of the catalyst that would correct Nanamine ways (and he still has a chance at it), but at this rate he's just going to mope around and still be his delusional, ugly self. Didn't everybody, even Aoki, wished for him to get back on his feet and try harder? I don't know, I just can't picture him being redeemed anymore without it being forced. If they weren't planning on redeeming him in the first place... well... that would just be sad.

2011-03-12, 13:13	Link #1852
Stefkov Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England	I didn't expect Nanamine to fall that quickly. His downfall was when he lied about the first chapter being in 1st place I think. I loved Hiramaru's appearance. Him and Aoki are an awesome pairing, one I didn't think I'd like at first but I'm getting to like it. I thought Nakai was going to stop Nanamine from his path but if the failing of his manga makes Nakai disappear quicker then that's much better.

2011-03-12, 16:19	Link #1854
Xagzan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Osaru's comment upon leaving made me lol. Proud bastard indeed. Gotta wonder what his parents were like, to raise a kid to be an utter rude jackass over manga. It's remarkable how Nakai was such a sympathetic character when first introduced, but by now O&O have managed to make him so revolting to us. That's good writing.

2011-03-19, 19:27	Link #1857
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Spoiler for ch 125: First they're not going to compete and now they are? I'm a little sick and tired of this Nanamine arc. Much rather see more interesting characters getting page time like Hiramaru or Eiji then him...

2011-03-19, 20:36	Link #1858
LeaD36 LeaDfactor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hungary, Budapest Age: 33	This seems to have become a habit of mine : Hiramaru appeared only briefly again (1page) but he won me over. Reading this manga is like having a few shining golden pages (almost) every chapter, the ones Hiramaru is in^^ I guess Nananime's arc gonna go on for like 2 more chapters, and i'm hoping for some MM development afterwards

2011-03-20, 02:27	Link #1859
HurricaneHige Uguu~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada	Hiramaru is really the highlight of this chapter, overall this arc had really really good setup but the fall and leadup to final conflict is really weak. Here's to hoping they do something crazy with the 'same theme' battle. __________________ Sig's coming soon ~_~ (since 07....) My rant blog (omg i'm blogging now, and not just anime)