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timojasper · 2006-04-05, 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofusensei

Burn a copy of windows XP, all your codecs, and media player classic, etc., along with the original xvid video

Though, burned CDs and DVDs have a very short shelf life, so maybe keeping them on disk arrays is a smarter way to do it?

I think data on hard disks is about the same price per gig as DVDs O_O;

-Tofu

How short do you call very short? Is this btw true? I thought dvd's and cd's went forever :-S.

bayoab · 2006-04-05, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by timojasper

How short do you call very short? Is this btw true? I thought dvd's and cd's went forever :-S.

They have a rated life time before they start degrading. They do not last forever. I do not remember the exact numbers but it used to be 5-10 years.

timojasper · 2006-04-05, 13:07

Man thats shit!!! this way ill keep on copieng

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Does this only cound for home burned cd's and dvd's? Does it depend on how often U use them?

What is the life time of a external harddisk when you only use it once every month?

Sides · 2006-04-05, 14:05

It depends on many factors, how long a disc remain usable.
Just store it in a decent place with low humidity,
no sunlight and in a constant room temperature.

Also it is better to use disc manufactured by Yuden or MCC,
you can get them branded as Plextor, Verbatim and other brands,
just check before you buy them.
And if possible store the discs in DVD/CD cases and
not in those bag things, sleeves aso.

With HDD you can also lose your data, like from a head/plate crash
or if you place a strong magnet on it.

Basically your files cannot be safe forever ^^
Just check your disc after few years and make a new copy of it,
if the quality has dropped (use tools such as cdspeed).

tweaker · 2006-04-10, 22:42

Two options:

1) pay a lot of money for a good tape back up system
2) tarball, gzip, and dump them on DVDs

tweak

Syaoran · 2006-05-02, 06:39

I bought an external harddisk to store my Anime & DV tapes.
In the past I used to burn them on DVD (& CDs), but after a few year, stored in a dark & dry place, some became unreadeable. My Narutaru & .Hack//Sign were lost that way.
Now I've a Western Digital external 320GB HD. I copied everything on it. I do use the DVDs for watching them now. If it's broken, I can burn a replacement in no time.

Anime is kept the way it was, .mkv or .avi The video I captured from my DV tapes is stored as H264 videos. It's big, but they'll be used for making movie DVDs anyway.

And unfortunately, even a hard disk will not keep data forever. Nor do tapes do it. A DAT tape lasts like 30 years.

At the end, it will all be in vain... once you're dead, your children or grand-children will just trow it away with trash together with your manga library you cherished so much T_T

shiro83 · 2006-05-02, 06:42

I use an external HDD too. For me, I think burning the files on disk is too troublesome for me.

mr.muffin · 2006-05-02, 11:06

Argh... need to start saving to get myself an external HDD...

Danj · 2006-05-02, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sides

Or you can use one of those small linux mediaplayer distro,
such as geexbox or movix, just generate a iso with your avi files in it.
Since it is a self booting disc, do it right, no worries.

Heh, I was going to suggest this, but I see somebody beat me to it. Here's a link to Movix and here's a link to Geexbox.

Sides · 2006-05-03, 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.muffin

Argh... need to start saving to get myself an external HDD...

Get one of these buffalos ^^
I think netgear has a similar product for 2 drives.

mr.muffin · 2006-05-03, 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sides

Get one of these buffalos ^^
I think netgear has a similar product for 2 drives.

Those buffalos are overkill for home use.

The netgear one is nice, I like it's network features.

Kingpincollector · 2006-05-09, 07:03

This is a bit off topic, but I was curious to the shelf life of professionally burned DVDs and CDs. Please tell me that they last longer than 5-10 years. They have to last longer than that because I have old CD's from the early 90'd that still play fine. I just want to know that in 20 years my 400+ official anime DVD collection will still play, along with my PS, PS2, and other video game discs. Does anyone know the shelf life? Thanks.

Kurz · 2006-05-09, 10:33

King the only thing you have to worry about is storing those DVD's Outve light and Humid places.

The DVD-R are more prone to decay. Some say you should reburn a copy of the DVD-r's every 10 years or so. Though its all a rough estimate, since we dont know when the data might go.

Your PS1 and PS2 disks are not as prone to it as the DVD Gaming disks. As long as you remember Light and Humdity are its worst enemies.

2006-04-05, 14:05	Link #24
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	It depends on many factors, how long a disc remain usable. Just store it in a decent place with low humidity, no sunlight and in a constant room temperature. Also it is better to use disc manufactured by Yuden or MCC, you can get them branded as Plextor, Verbatim and other brands, just check before you buy them. And if possible store the discs in DVD/CD cases and not in those bag things, sleeves aso. With HDD you can also lose your data, like from a head/plate crash or if you place a strong magnet on it. Basically your files cannot be safe forever ^^ Just check your disc after few years and make a new copy of it, if the quality has dropped (use tools such as cdspeed). Last edited by Sides; 2006-05-03 at 03:50.

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2006-04-05, 13:07	Link #23
timojasper Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Man thats shit!!! this way ill keep on copieng . Does this only cound for home burned cd's and dvd's? Does it depend on how often U use them? What is the life time of a external harddisk when you only use it once every month?

2006-04-10, 22:42	Link #25
tweaker Member Join Date: Mar 2006	Two options: 1) pay a lot of money for a good tape back up system 2) tarball, gzip, and dump them on DVDs tweak

2006-05-02, 06:39	Link #26
Syaoran Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I bought an external harddisk to store my Anime & DV tapes. In the past I used to burn them on DVD (& CDs), but after a few year, stored in a dark & dry place, some became unreadeable. My Narutaru & .Hack//Sign were lost that way. Now I've a Western Digital external 320GB HD. I copied everything on it. I do use the DVDs for watching them now. If it's broken, I can burn a replacement in no time. Anime is kept the way it was, .mkv or .avi The video I captured from my DV tapes is stored as H264 videos. It's big, but they'll be used for making movie DVDs anyway. And unfortunately, even a hard disk will not keep data forever. Nor do tapes do it. A DAT tape lasts like 30 years. At the end, it will all be in vain... once you're dead, your children or grand-children will just trow it away with trash together with your manga library you cherished so much T_T

2006-05-02, 06:42	Link #27
shiro83 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	I use an external HDD too. For me, I think burning the files on disk is too troublesome for me.

2006-05-02, 11:06	Link #28
mr.muffin Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Argh... need to start saving to get myself an external HDD...

2006-05-09, 07:03	Link #32
Kingpincollector Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 43	This is a bit off topic, but I was curious to the shelf life of professionally burned DVDs and CDs. Please tell me that they last longer than 5-10 years. They have to last longer than that because I have old CD's from the early 90'd that still play fine. I just want to know that in 20 years my 400+ official anime DVD collection will still play, along with my PS, PS2, and other video game discs. Does anyone know the shelf life? Thanks.