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Traece · 2013-03-16, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Strawberry Panic had four confirmed lesbian couples, involving seven girls in total. It also had another girl who's attempt to seduce her friend was beyond "suggestive" to the point of being crystal clear. So that's a bare minimum of eight lesbians.

Mari-Mite had one confirmed lesbian couple.

And this is me filtering out pure teases, even strong ones.

But I do agree that confirmed gay characters are often hard to find in anime.

I apologize, as priginally I had said "homosexual" characters. What I meant was male homosexual characters. I'm aware of plenty of lesbians. Need we reminisce on table-kun from Code Geass?

speedyexpress48 · 2013-03-16, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Traece

I apologize, as priginally I had said "homosexual" characters. What I meant was male homosexual characters. I'm aware of plenty of lesbians. Need we reminisce on table-kun from Code Geass?

Well, uh...there's always Hetalia...wait, that doesn't count, right...

Dhomochevsky · 2013-03-16, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Traece

I apologize, as priginally I had said "homosexual" characters. What I meant was male homosexual characters. I'm aware of plenty of lesbians. Need we reminisce on table-kun from Code Geass?

Male homosexuals in anime are usually drag queens played for comedy. Easily identified by their trademark accessory, the pink feather boa.
Those are surprisingly frequent too. In every odd show or so, there is one in the cast for no apparent reason.

NoemiChan · 2013-03-16, 17:06

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Originally Posted by MisaoFan

Maybe wait for a anime (and by anime, I mean a TV anime series) where the homosexuals actually behave like real-life homosexuals with some meaning or something instead of cardboard cutouts pretending to be homosexuals I guess.

Yup... That's what I'm saying... Current yuri anime are male oriented.. where in the world could you see two cute girls falling in love at first sight, shares the same interest in underwear, dessert etc... and their parents don't give a damn about it.. more over hen they are enrolled in a pure lesbian school..... I said it before, its more of an insult to homosexuals than actually side with them...

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Strawberry Panic had four confirmed lesbian couples, involving seven girls in total. It also had another girl who's attempt to seduce her friend was beyond "suggestive" to the point of being crystal clear. So that's a bare minimum of eight lesbians.

That anime "disturbed" me for a week or two. I watched an fan made AMV.. and I threw up.... unrealistic plot, with unrealistic setting, with unrealistic pairing, in a unrealistic school with unrealistic school staffs.... and forced coupling...

Maria-sama Miteru on the other is more of shouji-ai.... but still I don't care to watch it... knowing it is set in a Catholic school.. of all....

GDiddy · 2013-03-16, 19:12

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

Male homosexuals in anime are usually drag queens played for comedy. Easily identified by their trademark accessory, the pink feather boa.
Those are surprisingly frequent too. In every odd show or so, there is one in the cast for no apparent reason.

I don't know. That one dude in Tiger and Bunny shoots fire and owns his own company

Traece · 2013-03-16, 19:33

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Originally Posted by GDiddy

I don't know. That one dude in Tiger and Bunny shoots fire and owns his own company

Actually you just reminded me of Bob (I think that was his name?) from Fairy Tail.

Who is a drag queen.

But he also happens to be an eccentric old man who has his own guild and is actually a pretty cool dude. Incidentally he reminds me of someone I actually know in real life.

GDiddy · 2013-03-16, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Dhomochevsky

Male homosexuals in anime are usually drag queens played for comedy. Easily identified by their trademark accessory, the pink feather boa.

Uh...no.

Maybe they do in other series, not the ones I've seen recently: Besides the Fire Guy in Tiger and Bunny, the only one I know of that dresses like that was that one guy in Gurren Lagann

Otherwise,

Genpachi in Hakkenden doesn't wear a boa...and he's at least Bi.

The florist in Tamako Market is just a regular bishie guy....with the voice of Daisuke Ono

ninryu · 2013-03-17, 07:23

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan

It's a fantasy to satisfy us men. Saying that it represents lesbians in real life is sh*t. I have no hate to gays in real, its the way anime portraits them that is pretty irritating to see...

Yuri is pure fantasy to satisfy men's gratification in seeing two girls flirting and eating with each other *drool yeah, thanks... anyway...

Why they are not called lesbians though they're doing it? It's called denial. Same as porn stars denying they're gay or bi...

Oh, another thing that applies to yaoi as well... as if they're not catered to women...

Super late reply, but whatever. Actually most of the yuri artists (in manga at list) seems to be girls now days.

NoemiChan · 2013-03-17, 08:00

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Originally Posted by ninryu

Super late reply, but whatever. Actually most of the yuri artists (in manga at list) seems to be girls now days.

Well, it's the trend and IT SELLS... FOR US MEN...

Ichuki · 2013-03-17, 19:01

When a character is over powered compared to the rest of the cast.

GDiddy · 2013-03-17, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Ichuki

When a character is over powered compared to the rest of the cast.

I get this is probaly a trope in every shonen, but Jesus Christ is it ever overused in shit like Bleach. I hate Ichigo so, so much and his Gary Stuness....

Ichuki · 2013-03-17, 19:59

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Originally Posted by GDiddy

I get this is probaly a trope in every shonen, but Jesus Christ is it ever overused in shit like Bleach. I hate Ichigo so, so much and his Gary Stuness....

Yes it is a trope in nearly in all of shounen and I really don't get how a character with these type of cliches is considered "cool".

DXMichael · 2013-03-17, 20:09

When the main character takes soooooooooooooo much shit from other characters (Mainly female) and do nothing about it. The amount of times i've seen this and think to myself "If that was me...*Insert solution here*.

GDiddy · 2013-03-17, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Ichuki

Yes it is a trope in nearly in all of shounen and I really don't get how a character with these type of cliches is considered "cool".

The only shonen character that doesn't annoy the piss out of me is Luffy.

Ichigo sucks because Kubo basically shat on everyone else.

Naruto is just.....Naruto's like a hyperactive kid that I want to give ritalin too. Though Sasuke makes me want to vomit.

Traece · 2013-03-17, 22:26

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Originally Posted by GDiddy

The only shonen character that doesn't annoy the piss out of me is Luffy.

Ichigo sucks because Kubo basically shat on everyone else.

Naruto is just.....Naruto's like a hyperactive kid that I want to give ritalin too. Though Sasuke makes me want to vomit.

I think I posted a long rant on this subject.

Tite Kubo does not know how to write a story, or really much in the way of background stories for characters. Bleach is so poorly written, and had so much potential that was wasted on making Ichigo a mostly independent character.

However, Naruto I respect more because at the very least there were some extremely interesting side characters. Hinata's writing and contributions to the series actually made having watched nearly every episode of Naruto (not Shippudden) worth it. This applies to many of the other characters as well.

In both cases though, the main characters and main plot were pretty sub-par. These aren't the only examples of this either. I've seen a large quantity of not just anime, but writing in every medium that does a much better job with the side characters than the primary characters. I think part of the issue is that some writers forget that just because it's the main character's story, it doesn't mean that we know everything about them or have knowledge of all their experiences. There's still room for exposition in terms of their events prior to the story starting, their personal feelings, or even off-screen events they were involved in. Just because we're watching this person, doesn't mean we automatically identify and sympathize with them. You have to MAKE US like them. This is done by breathing some actual life into the character, preferably staggered throughout the course of the story.

backbone · 2013-03-17, 22:50

What do i hate about anime?

A pervert male protagonist who thinks nothing but woman breasts all the time and have no shame to admit his perversion yet when critical moment occurs he ALWAYS chicken out (or, in some cases, his sanity suddenly comes back and forces him to refrain his action)

damn stupid . . . . .

kenjiharima · 2013-03-17, 22:56

Similar anime openings and ending animations.

NoemiChan · 2013-03-18, 02:35

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Originally Posted by backbone

What do i hate about anim

A pervert male protagonist who thinks nothing but woman breasts all the time and have no shame to admit his perversion yet when critical moment occurs he ALWAYS chicken out (or, in some cases, his sanity suddenly comes back and forces him to refrain his action)

damn stupid . . . . .

Reminds me of...

Spoiler for Related Anime:

An perverted MC so loved that even that he obviously he cheats is still being chased by many girls.

backbone · 2013-03-18, 03:11

Don't forget:

Spoiler:

Which is why i always find hentai doujinshi more realistic and satisfying to read rather than romcom manga with stupid fail drama and nonsensical perverted MC

ninryu · 2013-03-18, 08:12

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan

Well, it's the trend and IT SELLS... FOR US MEN...

What makes you think the whole purpose of the yuri genre is to please men fantasies?

2013-03-17, 20:09	Link #433
DXMichael Psycho Falling Deep Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: The Anime World Age: 29	When the main character takes soooooooooooooo much shit from other characters (Mainly female) and do nothing about it. The amount of times i've seen this and think to myself "If that was me...Insert solution here. __________________

2013-03-17, 22:56	Link #437
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Similar anime openings and ending animations. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-03-18, 03:11	Link #439
backbone Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: East Asia Age: 32	Don't forget: Spoiler: Ise from DxD Which is why i always find hentai doujinshi more realistic and satisfying to read rather than romcom manga with stupid fail drama and nonsensical perverted MC

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Ichuki ┌(^o^)┘モリ!┌(^o^)┘モリ! Join Date: Sep 2010	When a character is over powered compared to the rest of the cast.

2013-03-17, 22:50	Link #436
backbone Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: East Asia Age: 32	What do i hate about anime? A pervert male protagonist who thinks nothing but woman breasts all the time and have no shame to admit his perversion yet when critical moment occurs he ALWAYS chicken out (or, in some cases, his sanity suddenly comes back and forces him to refrain his action) damn stupid . . . . .