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-Sho- · 2008-12-25, 09:40

Noooooooo Rai why she die .... and with a bullet in her head ...... Kurou can't save her noooooo why !But it can't be helped . Just why he don't react at all when she is falling?
Yeah Kuon is dead !Glad Kurou let him falls this bastard !

Final boss in the end?

Deathkillz · 2008-12-25, 12:59

And because I watched the last episode without subs I am left saying, WTF, for most of the dialogue

But...

Spoiler:

BlackShinobi07 · 2008-12-26, 13:40

This anime terrible. Beautiful to watch, but the story is very bemusing.

Blaat · 2008-12-26, 15:51

I wished they stopped using that Star Wars laser sound for all the sword and speed effects.

Anyway I had a thought while watching

Spoiler for episode 11:

What if Kuro's head ended up on a female body? Would that make Kuro a 'trap' or would Kuro and Kuromitsu 'relation' be considered as 'yuri' from that point on or would everything be too confusing to make a clear cut answer?

jayhellnice · 2008-12-26, 16:24

i didn't like the way the manga ended what are your thoughts on the conclusion? if the story hadn't been cut short what do you think would have happened to the characters?

Spoiler for in my opion:

loempiavreter · 2008-12-26, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiroth

I just found out that the general isn't in the manga, and his name is Arashiyama.

Where did you found this?

Spoiler:

I've been looking how he was called, was it mentioned in that episode?

I know that turtle and vine-girl's name where mentioned in one or two episodes. But what about that doctor? Is he maybe the same character as some sunglasses wearing doctor from the manga?

Oh yeah one more question:

Spoiler:

Guardian Enzo · 2008-12-26, 23:21

As for 11, a couple of things stood out. First, that may have set the single ep record for maniacal laughter. And second, yes - Rai's death was very effective. I too, was equally as surprised by her death as I was by the return of Kuon, who I had completely forgotten about. Superb storytelling there, worthy of Hitchcock.

This anime makes some odd choices, and not everything works. But the mastery is undeniable. It's art.

taelrak · 2008-12-28, 00:55

Anyone know what happened in the manga and how it ended differently?

atividia · 2008-12-28, 02:13

Spoiler:

1/10 for me. The whole series... 1/10. This might've been the most annoying ending I've seen to any series in a very long while.

Bathory Area · 2008-12-28, 02:40

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Originally Posted by atividia

Spoiler:

1/10 for me. The whole series... 1/10. This might've been the most annoying ending I've seen to any series in a very long while.

Hey,"Ending" is decent.Don't you think it is "twisted ending"?
*Come on!!! What do you want from horror anime???

ploki · 2008-12-28, 04:11

Can someone who read the manga make sense of the ending, or is the ending just impossible to decipher? I'm hoping the manga provided a little more background material.

If not, I have a feeling the ending is meant to be a WTF ending with no real explanation. Maybe a rewatch is required, but I have a feeling that won't help.

soul_less · 2008-12-28, 05:48

i do not understand what ppl are confused about..........

(i don't remember how to make spoiler tags so just highlight the text) oh and sorry for the grammar mistakes, its 5am.....

the vamp chick believes that cat and mouse is the most proper way to spend eternity. Lawl @ her crazy self.

Kuro is starting to wonder if that's the best way to spend eternity or not...to bad he only gets about 30sec to think about that during each of his "lives" Oh well you snooze you lose.

his next rebirth starts when earth is in a bit of a better state.....he does the same thing........same result.

the last clip of him in the forest with his side kick is just saying that things can play out the same or differently as the last time. (notice that the forest they were in had destroyed builds around too) uhmm put it another way, eternity is a funny thing. it is possible for time to literally repeat itself. hahah owned

Lawl again Kuro, must be sorry he wanted to dive into that chick's haven so badly that he decided to become immortal.

to sum things up: lololololololol Kuro will spend the rest of his days killing ppl looking for his women when she is the one that put those obstacles there in the first place..mainly because she finds this entertaining...such to be one of those obstacles.......

I was entertained because I like black humor.

Oh and atividia the worst ending to date is Mahoromatic Season 2.

Sheba · 2008-12-28, 06:45

Immortality is supposed to not be that cool, look at Mokou and Kaguya from the Touhou series who litterally kill each other, because they have nothing else better to do.

Shiroth · 2008-12-28, 07:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by loempiavreter

Where did you found this?

Spoiler:

I've been looking how he was called, was it mentioned in that episode?

His name is mentioned in the credits.

Spoiler for Episode 12:

Maciste · 2008-12-28, 08:38

@soul less

good point/explanation there

Spoiler for Question about the conclusion:

WanderingKnight · 2008-12-28, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by atividia

Spoiler:

1/10 for me. The whole series... 1/10. This might've been the most annoying ending I've seen to any series in a very long while.

What?!

I mean, don't you need to get your sense of storytelling checked or something?

It's not a dream. It's a cycle.

You should watch more anime, too. Cyclic, ad-eternum repeating stories is a rather recurrent theme in Japanese media in general.

Quote:

Can someone who read the manga make sense of the ending, or is the ending just impossible to decipher? I'm hoping the manga provided a little more background material.

If not, I have a feeling the ending is meant to be a WTF ending with no real explanation. Maybe a rewatch is required, but I have a feeling that won't help.

I don't understand what's so complicated about it. Perhaps I'm used to the concept (I already had realized more or less around episode three that this was the whole deal), and reading the manga helped a little (I haven't finished it yet), but really, it's not too hard to grasp.

Thingle · 2008-12-28, 13:11

WTF? The show just made more questions than answers... Like, did time just move back?

Kuromitsu is one BAD vamp.

Zippicus · 2008-12-28, 13:15

This is a good candidate for the old "make up your own ending" type stories. They didn't really flesh out why anything was going on, and the times they tried they tended to give out conflicting information. At the end of the day it seems like I have more questions than I do answers. I don't generally mind that kind of thing but in this case the questions I have are which parts of the story are true and which parts are false.

WanderingKnight · 2008-12-28, 13:39

Quote:

I don't generally mind that kind of thing but in this case the questions I have are which parts of the story are true and which parts are false.

I... don't think anything of what we see is false. When are we led to believe that?

Quote:

WTF? The show just made more questions than answers... Like, did time just move back?

It's a flashback to the beginning of the series. It's a reference to the fact that Kuro's ordeal was an ever-repeating cycle of looking for Kuromitsu.

Shiroth · 2008-12-28, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by WanderingKnight

I... don't think anything of what we see is false. When are we led to believe that?

The last scene. I believe that's the one that's having people think the whole series was just a dream.

2008-12-25, 12:59	Link #242
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2008-12-26, 15:51	Link #244
Blaat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	I wished they stopped using that Star Wars laser sound for all the sword and speed effects. Anyway I had a thought while watching Spoiler for episode 11: Rai got tortured What if Kuro's head ended up on a female body? Would that make Kuro a 'trap' or would Kuro and Kuromitsu 'relation' be considered as 'yuri' from that point on or would everything be too confusing to make a clear cut answer?

2008-12-26, 16:24	Link #245
jayhellnice Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	i didn't like the way the manga ended what are your thoughts on the conclusion? if the story hadn't been cut short what do you think would have happened to the characters? Spoiler for in my opion: i feel like Kuro and Kuromitsu would be together for eternity as immortals but i do not no what to think of rai

2008-12-28, 02:13	Link #249
atividia Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Spoiler: Did they just end the series by ambiguously calling everything a dream? 1/10 for me. The whole series... 1/10. This might've been the most annoying ending I've seen to any series in a very long while.

2008-12-28, 08:38	Link #255
Maciste Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Munich, Germany	@soul less good point/explanation there Spoiler for Question about the conclusion: So, if it is a cat & mouse game, why did she create Kuon (Kuro's "eternal" body), when she didn't intend to use it anyway? Or was it just another trick of her, to set up the "game" with the enemy and, in reality, Kuon's body isn't what it is supposed to be? So, all in all, she gave the enemy something, so they can build up the "stage" for Kuro? I wonder what would happen if Kuro fails his mission? But then again, Kuromitsu would come to his rescue, like she did in the situation with the vine-woman.

2008-12-25, 09:40	Link #241
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Noooooooo Rai why she die .... and with a bullet in her head ...... Kurou can't save her noooooo why !But it can't be helped . Just why he don't react at all when she is falling? Yeah Kuon is dead !Glad Kurou let him falls this bastard ! Final boss in the end?

2008-12-26, 13:40	Link #243
BlackShinobi07 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	This anime terrible. Beautiful to watch, but the story is very bemusing.

2008-12-26, 23:21	Link #247
Guardian Enzo Seishu's Ace Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kobe, Japan	As for 11, a couple of things stood out. First, that may have set the single ep record for maniacal laughter. And second, yes - Rai's death was very effective. I too, was equally as surprised by her death as I was by the return of Kuon, who I had completely forgotten about. Superb storytelling there, worthy of Hitchcock. This anime makes some odd choices, and not everything works. But the mastery is undeniable. It's art.

2008-12-28, 00:55	Link #248
taelrak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Anyone know what happened in the manga and how it ended differently?

2008-12-28, 04:11	Link #251
ploki Junior Member Join Date: May 2006	Can someone who read the manga make sense of the ending, or is the ending just impossible to decipher? I'm hoping the manga provided a little more background material. If not, I have a feeling the ending is meant to be a WTF ending with no real explanation. Maybe a rewatch is required, but I have a feeling that won't help.

2008-12-28, 05:48	Link #252
soul_less Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	i do not understand what ppl are confused about.......... (i don't remember how to make spoiler tags so just highlight the text) oh and sorry for the grammar mistakes, its 5am..... the vamp chick believes that cat and mouse is the most proper way to spend eternity. Lawl @ her crazy self. Kuro is starting to wonder if that's the best way to spend eternity or not...to bad he only gets about 30sec to think about that during each of his "lives" Oh well you snooze you lose. his next rebirth starts when earth is in a bit of a better state.....he does the same thing........same result. the last clip of him in the forest with his side kick is just saying that things can play out the same or differently as the last time. (notice that the forest they were in had destroyed builds around too) uhmm put it another way, eternity is a funny thing. it is possible for time to literally repeat itself. hahah owned Lawl again Kuro, must be sorry he wanted to dive into that chick's haven so badly that he decided to become immortal. to sum things up: lololololololol Kuro will spend the rest of his days killing ppl looking for his women when she is the one that put those obstacles there in the first place..mainly because she finds this entertaining...such to be one of those obstacles....... I was entertained because I like black humor. Oh and atividia the worst ending to date is Mahoromatic Season 2.

2008-12-28, 06:45	Link #253
Sheba RUN, YOU FOOLS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost Age: 44	Immortality is supposed to not be that cool, look at Mokou and Kaguya from the Touhou series who litterally kill each other, because they have nothing else better to do.

2008-12-28, 13:11	Link #257
Thingle Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Imperial Manila, Philippines	WTF? The show just made more questions than answers... Like, did time just move back? Kuromitsu is one BAD vamp.

2008-12-28, 13:15	Link #258
Zippicus Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Detroit, MI	This is a good candidate for the old "make up your own ending" type stories. They didn't really flesh out why anything was going on, and the times they tried they tended to give out conflicting information. At the end of the day it seems like I have more questions than I do answers. I don't generally mind that kind of thing but in this case the questions I have are which parts of the story are true and which parts are false.