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Old 2013-02-06, 02:01   Link #11921
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i got this spoiler and try to do a quick translation of it. this chapter was good because maybe the one to defeat iihiko was...
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way to go, this character was my favourite
My wildest dreams made true.
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Old 2013-02-06, 03:37   Link #11922
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Old 2013-02-06, 10:09   Link #11923
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If Nisio is male, and his self-inserts are female.... never mind.
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Old 2013-02-06, 12:40   Link #11924
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Spoiler for nienami style:


this style is like a cheat button right, she can win againts medaka if she seriously uses this style. Iihiko's nothing with this style.
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Old 2013-02-06, 13:20   Link #11925
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^Except what was that whole thing about "frenzied people aren't affected by styles"?
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Old 2013-02-06, 13:32   Link #11926
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^Except what was that whole thing about "frenzied people aren't affected by styles"?
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Old 2013-02-06, 15:02   Link #11927
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From today onwards Nisio has earned all my respect.
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Old 2013-02-06, 15:19   Link #11928
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From today onwards Nisio has earned all my respect.
You haven't even read the chapter yet. I suggest waiting until you do before you say things like that.
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Old 2013-02-06, 15:34   Link #11929
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You haven't even read the chapter yet. I suggest waiting until you do before you say things like that.
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Old 2013-02-06, 17:02   Link #11930
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And yet how many saw this coming?
Almost no one, since a lot of people were too busy hating on Medaka to think about anything else.
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Old 2013-02-06, 17:04   Link #11931
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They telegraphed this pretty hard earlier on; it was just a matter of time before she actually used it.
I merely forgot about it because the manga decided to, in turn, forget about every character except Medaka, yes.
Now the question remains of who she actually is... she knows way too much.
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Old 2013-02-06, 23:37   Link #11932
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They telegraphed this pretty hard earlier on; it was just a matter of time before she actually used it.
I merely forgot about it because the manga decided to, in turn, forget about every character except Medaka, yes.
Now the question remains of who she actually is... she knows way too much.
Now that you mention it...
I'm calling it now; Nienami is Ajimu
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Old 2013-02-07, 00:01   Link #11933
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Now that you mention it...
I'm calling it now; Nienami is Ajimu
I was thinking something like that myself... That she used in of her quadrillion skills to put part of her power somewhere else.
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Old 2013-02-07, 00:06   Link #11934
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I was thinking something like that myself... That she used in of her quadrillion skills to put part of her power somewhere else.
Or, you know, Nienami is just yet another Not Equal and we finally get some explanation of what that is supposed to entail.
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Old 2013-02-07, 02:37   Link #11935
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i'm aiming for laugh...
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Old 2013-02-07, 03:19   Link #11936
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See.
No matter how many times Nisio has his characters call Medaka a "monster", she never will be. She's just an excessively, annoyingly, entirely good person. Medaka's actions this chapter don't even remotely qualify as "monstrous". She is doing exactly what any remotely heroic character would do; if Zenkichi was in a situation like this and kept refusing to give up, the story would be treating him like the hero he would be.
And that is why Medaka will never be a compelling character in the least, because Nisio has absolutely no idea what he wants to do with this manga anymore.
Fuck this shit.
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Old 2013-02-07, 05:53   Link #11937
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Or...you know, Nienami is just an awesome girl with an OP style.
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Old 2013-02-07, 06:08   Link #11938
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See.
No matter how many times Nisio has his characters call Medaka a "monster", she never will be. She's just an excessively, annoyingly, entirely good person. Medaka's actions this chapter don't even remotely qualify as "monstrous". She is doing exactly what any remotely heroic character would do; if Zenkichi was in a situation like this and kept refusing to give up, the story would be treating him like the hero he would be.
Maybe the message here is that these heroes are monsters?
After all, what he's describing here doesn't solely describe Medaka, the same could be said about pretty much all shonen heroes. To what extent would the end justify the means?
I think what you fail to understand is that, logically speaking, these "heroic actions" are more greedy than anything else. Thus why the two were having an extensive conversation
about it. Kotobuki and Yuzuriha were actually sympathizing with Iihiko, because although it's being labeled as "heroic", her actions so far have seemed to cause more harm than good.
My guess is that they're just trying to define what being a "hero" means. While you easily classified it as anything "any remotely heroic character would do", maybe what Nisio is trying to
do is make you question what heroism actually is. It seems like they're pitting two differing philosophies here, kinda curious what answer they come up with that's pro-medaka.

Though I will question why Zenkichi matters so much to you folks at this point. If you've been following the
story up until now, his story arc is pretty much been sidelined. To expect anything more seems silly as there's no conceivable reason that Zenkichi would suddenly become more important in this fight, so I would hope people would just give up in bringing it up time after time. This fight isn't about Zenkichi, it doesn't seem to be that much about Shiranui either, but it's becoming more geared toward Iihiko.
I also find it interesting or well, amusing to say that least, that Nisio is trying to characterize Iihiko after all this time. He's certainly being more emotive than usual.
Though it is an interesting viewpoint. To him, Medaka is a monster, when he himself almost literally looks like a monster. Kinda funny in a way.

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Old 2013-02-07, 07:04   Link #11939
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Oh man, that last page... I think I'm in love.
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Old 2013-02-07, 07:31   Link #11940
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Holy crap, is Nienami actually mad? Damn...
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