2011-01-11, 20:08 | Link #321 |
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But seriously just about everyone in Umineko has some sort of obsession with writing in diaries. Kyrie is mentioned as having one in episode 6. IRL if a dead rich family wrote this much historians would have a field day. Since it's rarely ever really built upon, I think it's just something convenient to the plot, so that Witch hunters have something to speculate about. I don't really see any cause for it to have a deep reason or anything. |
2011-01-12, 01:13 | Link #325 | |
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You know, a plausible scenario if the diary was opened was that there would be a group of people who wouldn't believe anyways. And we'd probably be not really sure whether they were right or not with our limited info. I'm thinking of something like Moon Landing Deniers or the Kennedy Assassination. |
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2011-01-12, 02:18 | Link #327 |
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How long does it take to write and destroy something. Write something, then not even two minutes later, destroy it. Christ, if it was for personal venting and had no intentions to share it, why did she dick around and die before destroying it?
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2011-01-12, 02:23 | Link #328 |
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Probably she forgot, or she had it hidden somewhere and she didn't expect anyone to find it, or she made a bet and if Ange found it, she'd be entitled to the truth, if she didn't well, then that's it. Either way, I don't think there'll be an answer for that.
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2011-01-12, 08:37 | Link #333 |
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I've lost connection for about a week 1/2 after the game came out so I haven't been able to thank you for your summaries thus far. Thank you again for helping those who can't read (or have) the game.
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2011-01-12, 09:21 | Link #334 | |
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so why is it so hard to believe that Ikuko got her hands on the diary?! And why should the red truth be a lie this time around? Why shouldn't Eva's diary contain the one truth? During the scenes with Ange in the additional Tips she appeared quite sane, considering the tragedy she had lived through. What probably made her crack was the fact that everybody made her the murderer and she didn't even gain Ange's love...she lost everything. And why shouldn't someone write a diary instead of a will? In a way it's the only thing of worth that Eva can leave behind and considering everybody hates her, she feels no obligation to give it to someone specific... |
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2011-01-12, 11:02 | Link #335 |
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Well, for one thing, Eva cannot possibly know the One Truth(tm), even if she was there. I'm sure somebody was killed outside her sight, so as to what happened to them she'd only be able to guess. Even if the diary is a plain factual-only account of exactly what Eva saw and did, it's probably incomplete, or at least misleading, even if it's true.
But again, I'm always suspect about the provenance of things people just happen to "find" in 1998. If Eva physically hands the diary to Ikuko or Tohya or Ange, then we've got something. Otherwise, there's always gonna be doubt.
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If she was gonna do all that shit, she should've told Ange straight up.
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2011-01-12, 13:48 | Link #337 | |||
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We have no idea when she wrote that diary, nor when exactly she started to take everything on herself. Quote:
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That is to say, considering how Eva went nuts as she was basically alones for 12 years, it isn't surprising she got stuck into that predicament. Also, I can understand that kind of character that would want to protect what they tried to hide, but they definitely couldn't dispose of it. Especially if that diary does contain other things, such like what she thought of things before that incident, like George recent exploits in his studies and whatnot. Also, it isn't the first time I'm asking that but: please refrain going personal over a simple argument. It isn't like using a colorful language makes your points any more relevant.
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I will totally hold Ryukishi up with a knife though.
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Even though she didn't expose the truth, that doesn't mean she has forsaken it (as if she could anyway, since she knew what happened, so it is unlikely for her to deny that, unlike what Ange did). To my understanding, I wouldn't be surprised that she kept the diary as she considered it to be the safest place: why would someone hide it somewhere, if they can simply keep watch on it? Also, it isn't like Eva knew when she dies, so the fact it was found in her hospital room is fine. Quote:
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