2013-02-06, 12:35 | Link #2881 | |
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You know, the same Signum who fought Nanoha to a stand-still... The same Signum who trained Erio in melee combat. riiiight... Fate sure is the strongest melee fighter in the series. /sarcasm
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2013-02-06, 12:37 | Link #2882 | |
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Funny thing is, this is your analogy. Just worded differently. Remember, you are the one who started to claim that all martial arts are the same just because they all use the same limbs. Yes, Sansker, I am well aware people can do both ranged and melee attacks with Mid and Belka. Had you been paying attention I never denied this. What I have been saying all along is that while you can do these things, Mid and Belka are just better at their respective specialties. And it shows in the fighter's styles. This means that the styles are not, as you continue to claim, "the same." Belka has no wide-range bombardment spells that we know of, and Breaker magic is unique to Mid. Vice-versa, Mid users have to go through extreme lengths to match the melee performance of Belka users, as shown in Fate's Sonic Form and Corona's Nephilim Fist, unless they have some form of rare skill like Miura's Hard Hitter. Only if you perceive dimensions as identical locations separated by an invisible wall. Think less mirror dimensions, and more separate planes of existence, like Magic: The Gathering. |
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2013-02-06, 12:41 | Link #2884 | |
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To be fair, the setting of FORCE doesn't give Fate much options at long range combat so she had to showoff more of her close combat prowess ...the cool thing is that Fate is basically the only one who can keep using her Mid-styled skills in combat. The others are limited by equipement and rules, extra points to Fate by achieveing better results than everyone else while still fighting like a mage xD
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2013-02-06, 12:45 | Link #2885 | |
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This renders the "X beat Y so she must be stronger than Z who lost to Y" comparison moot. |
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2013-02-06, 12:51 | Link #2886 | |
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Still, seeing how Curren has been curbstompping people left and right (except Hardis, of course) gives some credit to Fate's achievement xD And she's the other half of the Magnificent Duo so she's almost guaranteed to have a climatic awesome fight at the end of the season xD And by the way, Fate had troubles beating Signum at "Age 9" (and was still able to give her some troubles, mind you) xDU By the time FORCE takes place this is probably reversed (Signum even told the Grendels that Fate is a swordfighter to be feared) but i won't confirm that until i see those two cross blades again ...which probably won't happen anyway xDU
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2013-02-06, 13:03 | Link #2889 | |
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A lot. Fate lost EVERY rematch that the two had over a ten year period, even going so far as to indicate that the fights weren't even close, no matter how hard she tried.
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2013-02-06, 13:05 | Link #2890 | ||
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Ah, I see. Thanks. |
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2013-02-06, 13:15 | Link #2891 | |
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So yeah, awesome Fate is awesome xD
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2013-02-06, 13:19 | Link #2893 |
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Indeed, that's the point, Signum looks cool, have and imposing presence and does pretty good in sparring duels. But in practice, at the fires of the real battlefield is Fate the one who comes out as the most talented fighter.
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2013-02-06, 13:24 | Link #2894 |
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Wrong, Aki...
Aki, just shut up. Signum: However, I told you to stop addressing me so formally. Fate: Even if you tell me that, I was taught by my tutor to address my elders formally. Well, when the percentage of my sparring victories surpasses losses, I'll feel confident enough to speak to you as your equal. Eh heh. Signum: Oh, if that's the case, I'm going to be waiting forever for the impossible. Fate: It's not impossible. I'll be growing in height and magic after this as well. Signum: Just growing taller doesn't mean you'll be getting stronger (bad translation). Fate: Just watch me. Signum: Well, I won't be standing around waiting for you. So try your best in matching/reaching/beating me.
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2013-02-06, 13:29 | Link #2896 |
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BTW, wasn't the last StrikerS chapter supposed to be the two strongest of Riot Force 6 against each other?
Heck, in an earlier manga chapter, Vita comments that there's a lot of factors that goes into winning a fight, not just who's the strongest. Otherwise it would have been Nanoha vs Hayate instead of Nanoha vs Signum. I seem to recall Signum tanking Nanoha's moves in that chapter before countering perfectly. You know, the same moves that took both Fate and Dieci out with ease and Signum tanks them.
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2013-02-06, 13:30 | Link #2897 | |
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Signum have a bad habit to gloat her skills out of proportion, she did it with Fate, with Zest, with Nanoha and finally came to bite her hard in the ass during her fight with Cypha xDU I know, i know, she's a knight so she probably uses that as an intimidation tactic but still. Everytime she refers to Fate's skills in a serious manner it's always praises and recognition about how good she is ...which culminates in FORCE where she says the Grendel Family they should fear Fate MORE than her xD That dialogue was just probably Signum taunting Fate so she put more effort into her training. EDIT: By the way, is that dialogue from a Sound Stage o.o? I never heard it before.
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2013-02-06, 13:33 | Link #2899 |
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@Aki
... Since when was Signum's cocky? I mean it, seriously. I just can't picture Signum as someone cocky. Also, this line: you have pretty good sense for a mage, but against a Belkan-type knight it will be useless is actually pretty true. Seeing as Belkan Knights focuses on close range combat, they would outmatch Fate if it ever comes down to it. |
2013-02-06, 13:44 | Link #2900 | |
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And about the Sound Stages, i had read some, but not all, i more or less spoiled some of it's more vital contents but i don't know the specific dialogue.
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