2013-05-10, 13:30 | Link #81 |
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It doesn't have to make sense, they just want to see him get more powers, more fanservice, etc. Its funny though, when they suddenly become sticklers when it comes to certain minor plotholes, or other certain other characters recieving powerups (even if those things do make sense).
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2013-05-10, 14:44 | Link #82 | |
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2013-05-10, 15:35 | Link #83 | |
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2013-05-10, 17:22 | Link #84 |
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On a side note, anyone else think Rinnegan is "uninspired" eye bloodline?
Maybe it's because Sharingan/Byakugan were introduced early when the series was fresh, but I found them way more interesting than Rinnegan, which never struck me as being particularly interesting. To this day I still dont quite understand the rules governing it. It seems to be a mish-mash of different overpowered abilities with no connecting thread. For example, why do you need "chakra receivers" (clearly analogous to antennae communication). A legendary super eye technique from ancient times and its main ability seems to require some high tech laboratory to be used. It all seems rather dull. I'm not sure where it happened, but somewhere along the line it seems that Kishimoto powered up some of his characters far too quickly into the realm of the absurd. It seems silly now that Orochimaru was so infatuated with Kimimaro, who seems like an insect compared to the monsters running around the Naruto world right now. |
2013-05-10, 17:33 | Link #85 |
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^The Six Paths of Pain (the six bodies controlled via chakra rods) is not the main power of the Rinnegan. Rather, it is a manipulation of the powers of the eye, placing specific powers in other bodies rather than confining them all to one body. The main power of the Rinnegan is the ability to control reality itself, even life and death. It's a ridiculous power that has never been fully shown or explained. While I wouldn't really call it dull (the Byakugan is the only power that could really be considered dull considering how streamlined it is), it is definitely over-powered to an obscene degree.
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2013-05-10, 18:01 | Link #86 |
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It's only dull now because everything else is so freaking overpowered beyond belief. Way back it was interesting and seemed quite powerful; being able to see the flow of chakra, even if it isn't directly in front of you, and completely shut down the opponent's ability to use it.
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2013-05-10, 20:20 | Link #87 | ||
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And where the hell is gamabunta Hes missing the sweet action. I wanna see gamabunta tag-team action with kyuubi Quote:
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2013-05-10, 20:41 | Link #88 | ||
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2013-05-10, 21:44 | Link #89 | |
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2013-05-10, 22:40 | Link #90 |
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well, we saw naruto fight with rasengan so much and then when he got sage mode, he has barely used it in comparison. i would have preferred him to stay at sage mode until the very end of the story where he could have used some type of kyuubi/bijou mode. i think rinnegan and kyuubi mode among other things are just a little too much. they make the other ninja look ridiculously useless
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2013-05-10, 23:41 | Link #91 |
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He needs the rods to not only control them from vast distances, but to also funnel specific powers and chakra through each doll (which in turn allows him to see through their eyes). Really, it was ultimately no different than Sasori's puppet show, the rods simply allowed greater distance and for actual chakra to be pumped through the bodies
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2013-05-11, 01:40 | Link #92 | |
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2013-05-11, 06:40 | Link #93 | |
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2013-05-11, 10:45 | Link #94 | |
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Admittedly though, I haven't the slightest idea how the mangaka actually do their job or make decisions on such things. I was told there is a manga about just that, and focuses on the pressures they face such as deadlines, demanding audiences and such but I forgot the name. |
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2013-05-11, 12:33 | Link #96 | |
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I think kishimoto just ran out of ideas during some stages of the manga, and it caused him to use some deus ex machina powers. Unlike a novel where the author can simply take 6 months off if they are having writers block to think of better ideas, once a manga gets popular you dont have that luxury. The fights were always best when they were brains above brawn. Thats not an easy thing to consistently write. Perhaps its just a personal preference, but for myself the manga started taking a bad direction as soon as Gaara transformed into the one tail. I personally think the story would have been much better in the long run if the bijuu were simply passive powers within their vessels which could not be used for fighting. No lending chakra, not transformations. Nothing but the Naruto world ninjas and their jutsus/bloodlines. Gaara's transformation lead to goofy stuff like Sasuke's lvl 2 cursed mark monster shape, and Naruto's "brainless" kyuubi mode. My favorite fight in the entire series was probably the time Itachi/Kisame snuck into Konoha on their recon and got intercepted by Kakashi/Kurenai/Asuma. There was a distinct lack of shape-shifting nuclear weapons in that fight =) |
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The real story is called Mangaka Chou Zankoku Monogatari...
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2013-05-11, 12:57 | Link #98 |
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I'm not sure why you say "real" and you can add Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga while on the subject but I think it's way more likely that the series he was referring to was Bakuman.
edit : or did you mean that Mangaka Chou Zankoku Monogatari was the real story and Mangaka Chou Zankoku Monogatari was the parody? Last edited by Hunter; 2013-05-11 at 13:12. |
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Yeah its Bakuman, thanks. |
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2013-05-11, 15:05 | Link #100 | |
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(Of course Artful wanted Bakuman, how many people remember Mangaka Chou Zankoku Monogatari let alone Mangaka Zankoku Monogatari. I was being facetious hence choosing a gag title about ero-mangaka.) |
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